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An index of "leaks" and status: forbrawlbattle's "second post" and Brawl360 removed

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OmegaRS

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You say One_Step is misinformed about Arachnus. Arachnus is in fact from Metroid Fusion. He's the first boss you fight. He looks like this:



And as for Clayton, he MAY have meant the Clay Guys, which I read are the Pig King Empires main workforce.
 

MajinNecro69

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You say One_Step is misinformed about Arachnus. Arachnus is in fact from Metroid Fusion. He's the first boss you fight. He looks like this:



And as for Clayton, he MAY have meant the Clay Guys, which I read are the Pig King Empires main workforce.
Oh, I remember Arachnus now! Thanx for the pic.

I'll also change the possible reference, but if he changes his mind, I'll un-cyan him.

@GoldDarkness; Thanx for that info!
 

Bane84

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In any event, if we do not get a third-party character in tonight's update, at least another "leaker" will be debunked, no matter how lame the update may be.
 

MajinNecro69

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In any event, if we do not get a third-party character in tonight's update, at least another "leaker" will be debunked, no matter how lame the update may be.
rapscouter will not be debunked, he will only have his second strike in his first set of predictions. He needs four lies in a section to be debunked.
 

BraveDave88

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Yeah, I'm thinking Clay Guys is what he meant (assuming he's true). I've checked several Mother 3 sources (including Starmen.net) and haven't found a thing on a "Clayton" character. '

As long as he didn't mean Claus is an assist trophy, I'm okay. :-)
 

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rapscouter will not be debunked, he will only have his second strike in his first set of predictions. He needs four lies in a section to be debunked.
the fact that we let rapscouter get away with this is ridiculous. we'l never be able to debunk him as most of the stuff is stuff we wont know until the game comes out. its stupid really, its just a backup plan. we have to wait till 4 things are deconfirmed vs 1 for everyone else
 

Gold_Darkness

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What of UltimateX64's statement: -Ancient Minister has nothing to do with the Master Hand.

I'm just now wondering if that conflicts with One_Steps claim of Master Hand being in the SSE.

What do you guys think?
 

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the fact that we let rapscouter get away with this is ridiculous. we'l never be able to debunk him as most of the stuff is stuff we wont know until the game comes out. its stupid really, its just a backup plan. we have to wait till 4 things are deconfirmed vs 1 for everyone else
I agree...

Rapscouter will be debunked Tomorrow when we won't get a 3rd party character update.

Why are we letting him slide? The fact that he does this ridiculous "3 things are lies" is so that this EXACT SITUATION happens! We can't debunk him, and he continues to feed off the attention like the leech that he is.

All Prophets are **** liars
 

Jesus Freak Nor

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I agree...

Rapscouter will be debunked Tomorrow when we won't get a 3rd party character update.

Why are we letting him slide? The fact that he does this ridiculous "3 things are lies" is so that this EXACT SITUATION happens! We can't debunk him, and he continues to feed off the attention like the leech that he is.

All Prophets are **** liars
All "prophets" are liars. They make stuff up. Most "leakers" are also liars who make stuff up. Although, you have to remember...with EVERY game (pretty much), comes "leakers". Melee had quite a few as well. Although, most of them are not believable. A couple like rapscouter and ChaosZero are.


Edit: lol. Second "top of page" post in like a half hour.
 

Black/Light

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IMO One_Step87 is just trying to mix in lies with things that more trusted "leakers" are saying and throwing in some old info as well that people may not have remembered.

Hell, even on the Brawl central forums he sounds like he doesn't know what is in the game.(AKA, just a fan without inside info)
 

Kurizu208

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I agree...

Rapscouter will be debunked Tomorrow when we won't get a 3rd party character update.

Why are we letting him slide? The fact that he does this ridiculous "3 things are lies" is so that this EXACT SITUATION happens! We can't debunk him, and he continues to feed off the attention like the leech that he is.

All Prophets are **** liars
Oh yeah forgot about that. hmm.....
 

GhostAnime

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He needs four lies in a section to be debunked.
anybody that even states the amount of lies they say is automatically debunked to me. what's the point of saying something in the first place?

and I'm interested in this whole Mewtwo/Serebii/Lucario debacle. a roster is fake if Mewtwo is in but not Lucario? at first, this basically screams out Mewtwo getting cut.

but then it could be just both of them in. I honestly don't know. I don't even know if he's ever said this, but can someone elaborate?
 

GinRei

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I agree, to debunk rapscouter we'd have to debunk:
36% of his first cluster
40% of his second cluster
36% of his third cluster
36% of his fourth cluster
or 36% of his fifth cluster.

All other leakers just need one out of about 15 or 20 things, or between 5% and 7% of their "prophecy". Not only that, but just look at the lists. The majority of things are things that can't be proven wrong without the game. There won't be a Dojo update saying "the following things are not in Brawl", so let's see how much of his prophecy is actually debunkable:

3/11 in his first cluster (SSB on VC, Delay, and 3rd third party character)
2/10 in his second cluster (Falco and Luigi)
2/11 in his third cluster (Ganondorf, Marth and Roy)
2/11 in his fourth cluster (Ness, Captain Falcon)
2/11 in his fifth cluster (Mewtwo, PT Rival)

Everything else can be scoffed off as either misplaced (revealing a supposed 4th third party character first instead of the 3rd, thus throwing him off), or things that can't be debunked without the game. It is impossible to debunk him 100% without the game, and that's just too coincidental to have not been done on purpose.
 
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I had a dream last night that Geno was the update and I got all excited then realized he was just an AT and was disappointed. I just wanted to share that since the mods here are lock crazy I didn't want to start my own thread but I wanted to share it with you all. :)
 

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I had a dream last night that Geno was the update and I got all excited then realized he was just an AT and was disappointed. I just wanted to share that since the mods here are lock crazy I didn't want to start my own thread but I wanted to share it with you all. :)
.......ok. o_O
 

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I agree, to debunk rapscouter we'd have to debunk:
36% of his first cluster
40% of his second cluster
36% of his third cluster
36% of his fourth cluster
or 36% of his fifth cluster.

All other leakers just need one out of about 15 or 20 things, or between 5% and 7% of their "prophecy". Not only that, but just look at the lists. The majority of things are things that can't be proven wrong without the game. There won't be a Dojo update saying "the following things are not in Brawl", so let's see how much of his prophecy is actually debunkable:

3/11 in his first cluster (SSB on VC, Delay, and 3rd third party character)
2/10 in his second cluster (Falco and Luigi)
2/11 in his third cluster (Ganondorf, Marth and Roy)
2/11 in his fourth cluster (Ness, Captain Falcon)
2/11 in his fifth cluster (Mewtwo, PT Rival)

Everything else can be scoffed off as either misplaced (revealing a supposed 4th third party character first instead of the 3rd, thus throwing him off), or things that can't be debunked without the game. It is impossible to debunk him 100% without the game, and that's just too coincidental to have not been done on purpose.
Quoted For Truth, Majin I hope you read this;

If there isn't a 3rd party character update tomorrow, kick that guys sorry butt to the curb. He doesn't even deserve the extra chance
 

MajinNecro69

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Quoted For Truth, Majin I hope you read this;

If there isn't a 3rd party character update tomorrow, kick that guys sorry butt to the curb. He doesn't even deserve the extra chance
The reason I put him up there is because he predicted that a number of Pokemon (Pokemon we didn't think would) would get evolutions, and he predicted it 100% back when Diamond and Pearl were released. I trust rapscouter, despite this wonky thing he's doing.
 

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rapscouter said:
-Metal Gear Solid will have three ATs, Cyber Ninja, Revolver Ocelot, and someone else who will bring a smile to your face. Revolver Ocelot stands on on side of the level and rapidly fires at everyone other that the person who threw the AT. (Possibly referring to Raiden, who is mentioned by forbrawlbattle & ChaoticImplosion)
Just something that occurs to me... But it may have already been addressed

Doesn't this conflict with Sakurai? And his no realistic guns rule? I doubt Revolver Ocelot would be rapidly firing a laser rifle or a water gun.
 

MajinNecro69

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Just something that occurs to me... But it may have already been addressed

Doesn't this conflict with Sakurai? And his no realistic guns rule? I doubt Revolver Ocelot would be rapidly firing a laser rifle or a water gun.
Well...it COULD be lasers. The problem is that we need to see a Revoler Ocelot trophy, since he DID predict a "third" Metal Gear AT, and Raiden was allegedly seen somewhere (I forgot where).
 

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Well...it COULD be lasers. The problem is that we need to see a Revoler Ocelot trophy, since he DID predict a "third" Metal Gear AT, and Raiden was allegedly seen somewhere (I forgot where).
He was allegedly seen at Whobby I think, but no one could prove it.

I haven't played any Metal gear games beyond The Twin Snakes, so I'm not familliar with Revolver using any other weapons...

And that was a loooooooong time ago that I did play it too.
 

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Doesn't the fact that rapscouter state that MGS will have 3 ATs as in a definite number and not 3 others and yet he neglects to include the one that has been revealed kinda destroy his credibility?

Just asking, my MGS knowledge is minimal so Gray Fox could be one of those in another name but still
 

MajinNecro69

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Doesn't the fact that rapscouter state that MGS will have 3 ATs as in a definite number and not 3 others and yet he neglects to include the one that has been revealed kinda destroy his credibility?

Just asking, my MGS knowledge is minimal so Gray Fox could be one of those in another name but still
Is Gray Fox = Cyber Ninja? I'm quite confused. I've never played a Metal Gear game :(
 

MajinNecro69

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If that's the case...then why didn't rapscouter call him Gray Fox, since it was revealed on the DOJO as such...well, he's got 2/3 for that then, if Raiden truly is confirmed.
 

Gold_Darkness

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Is Gray Fox = Cyber Ninja? I'm quite confused. I've never played a Metal Gear game :(
In regards to the first Metal Gear Solid, yes.

In MGS 2 I believe someone else becomes a Cyber Ninja, and in MGS 4, we know Raiden becomes one.

The thing is, we also see Gray Fox before he became a Cyber Ninja in Metal Gear 2 (for the MSX) and in the Portable Ops game(for the PSP)
 

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The reason I put him up there is because he predicted that a number of Pokemon (Pokemon we didn't think would) would get evolutions, and he predicted it 100% back when Diamond and Pearl were released. I trust rapscouter, despite this wonky thing he's doing.
It's understandable to trust him based on past actions, but I can't see him as trustworthy at all when he makes it completely impossible to debunk him without actually having the game (at which point, what do we need "prophets" for anymore?).
 

Gold_Darkness

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I think I remember hearing that the Japanese version names him Cyber Ninja for spoilers sake, or something. The English and Japanese update for that AT were completely different if I recall.
Correct.

Cyborg Ninja was the Japanese name for the AT. We got Gray Fox for some odd reason.
 

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I appreciate the effort in compiling the information, considering I really paid no attention to these people claiming they had these so called inside sources. It is interesting how they agree and disagree but it is rather strange to think people have nothing better to do than create lies. There are some exceptions on that list, but for the rest: GET A JOB.
 
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