Alabama Thread! (10/26/2016 update)

[Saki-]

lul I think more people are upset at the event fee's opposed to the door fee.

Just saying

 

[NinjaFoxX]

yeah, we charge a doorfee, but it's only bc we're so lame...if you hadnt figured that one out yet, look at the first pg of JB--um, how many games are having? haha, and we think we can fit it all into a reasonable amount of time; and on time for that matter!

ahh, yeah...but i agree about the setups in the car. if a group of people come together and bring one setup, that group should be able to come in free. as for doorfees, since its at my place, and i see your point...so, to boost tournament turnout----


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how bout no door fee at all?
and
enough flavored, sugar water for everyone.
koolaid, im talkin about koolaide.

that better be clear kool-aid

 

[j00t]

R.i.p Fap

 

[munkus beaver]

Door fees generally go toward paying the venue fee.

When the venue is free, it seems disingenuous.

Also I've been on a Starcraft II kick since I got in the beta so I haven't been much in the mood for smashing :O

 

[_Keno_]

R.i.p Fap

ugh

*plays brawl* ...

 

[nice1]

zero idc bout the door fee i mean the venue is ur house so i can understand that but i mean 5 buck entry fees idk bout that tho

 

[I SEE YOU]

I'll pay a door fee, but the entry for tournaments should be $10
~especially since so many ppl can't make it. If there is only going to be 10 ppl playing brawl, i want the opportunity to try and win more than gas money...

 

[Winnar]

lul I think more people are upset at the event fee's opposed to the door fee.

Just saying

This.

Door fees generally go toward paying the venue fee.

When the venue is free, it seems disingenuous.

Also I've been on a Starcraft II kick since I got in the beta so I haven't been much in the mood for smashing :O

Oh, so that's where you've been. How is it? :O

zero idc bout the door fee i mean the venue is ur house so i can understand that but i mean 5 buck entry fees idk bout that tho

This too.

 

[munkus beaver]

I'll pay a door fee, but the entry for tournaments should be $10
~especially since so many ppl can't make it. If there is only going to be 10 ppl playing brawl, i want the opportunity to try and win more than gas money...

When you look at the total population to draw from, aiming for the people who are in it in order to make a profit isn't he best route. Even at bigger Alabama tourneys, only two people are going to come out on top once you factor in even minimal travel expenses.

The tourney fee is supposed to make the matches more intense and to put a significant prize at the end of the road. That prize is not the final objective more 90% of the tourney goers and only 1 person is going to get first anyway.

If anything, the prize money should be spread out more so that the economic 'burden' is less harsh on more people, since you mention 'winning gas money' anyway.

EDIT: I should mention that I am not going to the B-ham tourney if there is a door-fee anyway, and I can't really recommend it to my more casual smash friends either.

 

[moogle]

mannnn... can't find my squirtle avatar

 

[Winnar]

mannnn... can't find my squirtle avatar

http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/6470

here you go

When you look at the total population to draw from, aiming for the people who are in it in order to make a profit isn't he best route. Even at bigger Alabama tourneys, only two people are going to come out on top once you factor in even minimal travel expenses.

The tourney fee is supposed to make the matches more intense and to put a significant prize at the end of the road. That prize is not the final objective more 90% of the tourney goers and only 1 person is going to get first anyway.

If anything, the prize money should be spread out more so that the economic 'burden' is less harsh on more people, since you mention 'winning gas money' anyway.

EDIT: I should mention that I am not going to the B-ham tourney if there is a door-fee anyway, and I can't really recommend it to my more casual smash friends either.

Pretty much this is what I agree with.

but for some reason no one wants to come to this tourney unless they have to pay more

 

[MLEsis]

D*mn you guys really enjoy stayin on some n*uts about the money...entry fees have been raised. plz see Jungle Beatdown thread for last minute changes.
last minute changes will not be happening again, though, no matter how much you b*tch and moan.
entry fee is usually low bc some enter multiple events. door fee is usually enacted bc electricity bill increases, you eat all my cookies, and you drink all my drink.
regardless of all your costant complaints, the Zero family still <3s you.
Cherry koolaide only!! all i like, all i got, and theres nothing you can say thats gonna change it!!

 

[M.O.T.H]

Hello, im a alabama brawler also =D

I live in Ft.Rucker AL which is an army base near enterprise and dothan AL

I main ganondorf and was looking forward to entering some tournaments this summer. Hopefully i can travel with some of yal instead of me traveling alone

 

[Duchock]

I'm in favor of no fee tournaments. But that's just me.

Edit: hellu Mr. M

Edit edit: Socialism, yaaaaay.

 

[Winnar]

Hi again MOTH :D

 

[M.O.T.H]

hi again Winnar.

Is there any big tournaments going to be happening this summer in alabama? If so would any of you want to go with me that way i dont feel left out of the crowd when i get to the tournament lol.

I like to travel in either a couple of people of a lot of people just because i hate traveling alone lol

 

[NinjaFoxX]

Cherry koolaide only!!!

loleww...

10ewws....

 

[MLEsis]

loleww...

10ewws....

this thread is slowly killing me.

cherry-cherry boom-boom

 

[Zero_Gamer]

lol at the Munkus quote, "5$ is soooooo much! And my friends think so too!"

I don't know. Maybe since I paid door fees and went to 5$ entry tournaments all the time in NC, I thought that was normal, like chipping in for gas with your buddy, but some AL people are talking like it's taboo.

Jungle Beatdown will have no door fee now, but seriously guys, I see nothing wrong with door fees at all. I guess I'm just crazy.

 

[shaSLAM]

what do you need money for zero?
so we can hang at your place?
you dont spend money on the tournament.

the door fee is to pay back the person who rented out the place so they wont have to suffer for us to all smash.
you arent renting out a place.

i dont understand the logic.

im on acid.

also.
idk man.
the tournaments just arent very effective the way they have been run.
tcs is run much smoother and so was AU and just more legit.
i just feel like feeling like im at a legit tournament because i anticipate these things.
and its kind of a bummer to get there and it seem like a smashfest with a bunch of random games being played and weird prices and things that dont make sense and the schedule is never on time or right and idk man. its like up in the air what will actually happen and at tcs i know i am going to arrive and compete in a smash tournament in the same orderly manner everytime and at your place its like "well lets show up and **** around for a long time."

no offense dude. i have fun at your tournaments and ****ing around. its just. there arent many tournaments in AL. so i guess we are all picky about the ones we do get to have.

 

[Bloshi]

Tournaments tend to use prodigious amounts of AC/heating and electricity. Anyone who hosts will find their bills a bit bigger at the end of the month. Plus its just a nice thank you for them risking their living space to sometimes irresponsible smashers.

Also, Huntsville what are you doing this weekend? The time to know is now! I wanna smash.

 

[nice1]

door fee don't bother me

 

[Handorin]

lol at the Munkus quote, "5$ is soooooo much! And my friends think so too!"

I don't know. Maybe since I paid door fees and went to 5$ entry tournaments all the time in NC, I thought that was normal, like chipping in for gas with your buddy, but some AL people are talking like it's taboo.

Jungle Beatdown will have no door fee now, but seriously guys, I see nothing wrong with door fees at all. I guess I'm just crazy.

You should put it back. $5 isn't very much at all. -_-

Tournaments tend to use prodigious amounts of AC/heating and electricity. Anyone who hosts will find their bills a bit bigger at the end of the month. Plus its just a nice thank you for them risking their living space to sometimes irresponsible smashers.

Also, Huntsville what are you doing this weekend? The time to know is now! I wanna smash.

This. Except anyone who puts on heat at a smashfest is INSANE. It already gets warm enough.

 

[munkus beaver]

I have two friends who are casual at smash that I invite to the tuscaloosa smash fests. I didn't ask their opinion, zero, I said I wouldn't invite them in the first place.

You're not going to have a $50 bump in electricity bills because of a smashfest or whatnot. As I said, I don't mind door fees when they are venue fees. When it's at your house, it's not a venue fee, you pocket all the extra money yourself. If people want to pay extra for a privilege of food and drink then let them do that, but the only drink I want is water and any food I get will be off-site anyway.

 

[Handorin]

It's hard work running a tournament well, and he doesn't have to do it out of it his house. Not only will there probably be a slight bump in the bill, he also has to deal with the mess we leave.

 

[theONEjanitor]

i mean honestly everyone who pays money to play a mario and pikachu game
does so with a hope ranging from futile to slight to probable of making a return on their money


we've become so used to paying door fees that people just randomly add door fees when their not necessary and just for some added abysmal 'profit'.
door fees are gay, unless they're being used for something specific, which is MOST cases they are not. its just like, "hey im gonna take your money, ok cool"
for venues its just them collecting money for you being present in their store?
that's ********. the very fact that people are inside your store should be great enough for a business owner.
especially if you owned an awesome place like Waba, who I know many tourney goers patronized several times.
but door fees have become the way of the world nowadays
and venues won't run tournaments anymore without charging them

im gonna start charging a door fee at my tourneys for people who are late, but thats mainly a deterrent, and i'll probably use the money for like pizza or sommin

BUT ANYWAY THIS IS JUST A PLOT BY GEO TO GET ME TO CLEAN THE DINING ROOM AREA
i see your game

 

[Handorin]

lol mario and pikachu game. Like it matters what the characters are.

 

[theONEjanitor]

and a 'nice thank you' is called a "tip"
a forced entry fee is not a 'nice thank you'

but honestly its your tournament do what you want. if someone makes a more appealing tournament on the same day, thats just how it is. what are ya gonna do.

 

[Winnar]

Stop letting people eat your food D:

Also I don't remember EVER leaving a mess at a smash tournament. I mean furniture and chairs get moved around but that's negligible imo

If there is a mess then I'll help zero and co. clean it up sunday morning.

Bump in electricity is pretty small, if you charge a venue fee then say it like it is. You feel entitled to some dough for hosting the tournament and letting people stay at your house and junk. It's understandable and acceptable.

 

[Handorin]

IIRC, venue fee at dml triweeklies was saved for those who drove a realllllly long way.

 

[Bloshi]

Argh moogle or chad or joot or somebody, what is huntsville doing? I have plans to make and I wanna smash.

 

[-Chad-]

Well, not just a really long way. I tried to offer them to most anyone who drove a reasonable distance. Most people declined out of kindness and I was saving all of the money to try to kickstart a bigger tournament. The money is still in IHSB's lockbox :o

I also threw whatever money I won at my own tournies into the box as well and offered it for gas. I just really wanted people to come

 

[-Chad-]

Argh moogle or chad or joot or somebody, what is huntsville doing? I have plans to make and I wanna smash.

joot is currently sleeping here :o

I'm off work for the day, I work 2-? tomorrow.

*janitor style posting*

 

[Bloshi]

Yay. I may show up today and hang out tomorrow morning. Or show up tomorrow. Or something.

I forgot I need an address for the apartment. Just PM it to me (anybody) so I always have it.

Chad we can also play more advancin wars so go through the campaign and get more COs so I don't feel obligated to use the basic 4 lol.

 

[shaSLAM]

yeah dude.
i dont want to pay a kid so i can hang out with him and play a video game.

and the door fee thing may prove true if you are like... risking the cleanliness of your house because you are hosting pound 4 at it or something but these things are like 10 person smashfests. and you never make a mess playing a video game.

dude, people have parties at their houses all the time... and im sure drunks make more of a mess than a bunch of people playing a video game. i have yet to have been to one party where a door fee is charged. wtf. its just people coming over to play a video game. its really not a big hassle.

i wish i could start hosting tournaments.
but who all is going over to zero's tonight?

 

[Handorin]

yeah dude.
i dont want to pay a kid so i can hang out with him and play a video game.

and the door fee thing may prove true if you are like... risking the cleanliness of your house because you are hosting pound 4 at it or something but these things are like 10 person smashfests. and you never make a mess playing a video game.

dude, people have parties at their houses all the time... and im sure drunks make more of a mess than a bunch of people playing a video game. i have yet to have been to one party where a door fee is charged. wtf. its just people coming over to play a video game. its really not a big hassle.

i wish i could start hosting tournaments.
but who all is going over to zero's tonight?

http://kotaku.com/5499552/would-you-pay-women-to-play-xbox-games-with-you/gallery/

 

[GeorgeTHPS]

BUT ANYWAY THIS IS JUST A PLOT BY GEO TO GET ME TO CLEAN THE DINING ROOM AREA
i see your game

We have to be moved out of here by May 19th anyway, cleaning up a little early is mostly a good thing.

Also, Jason/Emily, I don't mean to be hostile about this whole thing. I've just consistently felt like we could run tournaments out of our apartment much more successfully than the ones you have.

I'm going to set the date as May 15th with no other possible dates.

On the discussion of door fees, originally at the Gamebox tournaments there were going to be door fees, and the store was going to take a cut out of the pot. I had to do a lot of convincing to get it down to just a door fee. The thing about venues--gaming centers especially--is that they expect to actually be making money when people come to play video games at their location. There was always pressure to raise the door fee (no one wants a $8-10 door fee), and that's why we never had another one. I mean, the tournaments at Gamebox would be on our typically busiest day of the week and would completely pack the store full of people who essentially only paid $5 to play all day.

 

[Handorin]

And places like Waba (ping pong area), we are using a place where they can do normal business in. They are now losing that in place of our event. They need to make up that money somehow.

 

[Winnar]

We have to be moved out of here by May 19th anyway, cleaning up a little early is mostly a good thing.

Also, Jason/Emily, I don't mean to be hostile about this whole thing. I've just consistently felt like we could run tournaments out of our apartment much more successfully than the ones you have.

I'm going to set the date as May 15th with no other possible dates.

On the discussion of door fees, originally at the Gamebox tournaments there were going to be door fees, and the store was going to take a cut out of the pot. I had to do a lot of convincing to get it down to just a door fee. The thing about venues--gaming centers especially--is that they expect to actually be making money when people come to play video games at their location. There was always pressure to raise the door fee (no one wants a $8-10 door fee), and that's why we never had another one. I mean, the tournaments at Gamebox would be on our typically busiest day of the week and would completely pack the store full of people who essentially only paid $5 to play all day.

Ohhhh that makes so much sense now...sort of

I understand wanting to make more money off the people who show up, but did our presence ever really deter any potential customers from coming in and doing their own thing? I mean if I walked into gamebox wanting to play PC then if I saw a roomful of people playing smash bros I would just play PC and when I was bored check out the smash stuff for entertaining viewing.

Actually now that I think about it I would probably be even more likely to come back since I know the place is popular and a good way to meet more gamers

 

[munkus beaver]

Ohhhh that makes so much sense now...sort of

I understand wanting to make more money off the people who show up, but did our presence ever really deter any potential customers from coming in and doing their own thing? I mean if I walked into gamebox wanting to play PC then if I saw a roomful of people playing smash bros I would just play PC and when I was bored check out the smash stuff for entertaining viewing.

Actually now that I think about it I would probably be even more likely to come back since I know the place is popular and a good way to meet more gamers

A couple of things.

First, the market for gamebox is the local B'ham scene. Any out of state 'patrons' aren't going to be 'new business' potential for the location.

Second, you are occupying space there in a place where space is the premium. Every TV that you are playing smash on is one less TV for them to rent out to another customer.

Third, when you think about it, operating a business and making $5 profit for a person who will spend 6-12 hours in your place of business is a poor business model. It's why many tournies are hosted in convention centers or hotels, because their business model is renting empty space to large groups of people.