Adventure Time Mafia | Game Over: Aren't You Cold...?

[BarDulL]

Are we done attacking each other now?

 

[Kantrip]

Blame me for losing Town the game? That sounds like it comes from someone who knows I'm town.

 

[BarDulL]

You tunneling insinuates that you're Town in the first place. Scum don't tunnel.

 

[BarDulL]

Basically, I'm saying that if you're Town, and you tunnel me, you're ****ing everyone over.

You're going to have to do better than that.

 

[Vlade]

Hmmm... do I make full responses to what Bardull has said about my case?

Nah, I don't see the point. His responses just consist of "you're reaching", "it was an honest mistake", and grotesque amounts of WIFOM. He hasn't actually "countered" the premises of my argument at all.

 

[Vlade]

Basically, I feel that if I respond to what Bardull said fully, it's just going to end up as a circular argument because we'll both be saying the same things over and over.

 

[Vlade]

Ok. Sitting down to figure this game out now.

Vlade, did you claim?

Admitting that you wanted to keep me alive until lylo no matter what my role was?

 

[BarDulL]

Vlade, you still haven't provided a second scum pick. Surely you have one, don't you?

Who would you choose between Raziek, Kantrip, and RR?

 

[Vlade]

Have you even been reading toDay?

I've already stated You/Raziek

 

[Vlade]

Also, was Bardull on invisible mode before the game started?

 

[BarDulL]

Me and Raziek, huh?

I'll play along with this. Show me why Raziek and I are the most likely to be scum with Nabe. Show me why this combo makes sense. Can you illustrate any clear and distinct connections or disconnections?

 

[BarDulL]

I've been invisible all game. Even if I wasn't, it's entirely irrelevant to discussion and proves nothing.

 

[Vlade]

What about BEFORE the game actually started? When did you turn on invisible mode?

I'm just curious because I didn't notice it until now.

 

[BarDulL]

Its been a while. I can't remember exactly when I changed it.

 

[Vlade]

Me and Raziek, huh?

I'll play along with this. Show me why Raziek and I are the most likely to be scum with Nabe. Show me why this combo makes sense. Can you illustrate any clear and distinct connections or disconnections?

It makes sense to me because you're both gunning for me. You/Nabe makes sense from my re-read, I'll re-read again tonight to see if there's anything, though from what I remember, I think Raziek has done a good job of hiding his connections with you and Nabe - the only thing I recall between you and Raziek was him rebutting your case on Ryker, which scum or town could have done really.

 

[BarDulL]

Just because Raziek is gunning for you doesn't necessarily make Raziek auto-scum. He could be Town who is simply misinformed. You DO realize that, if he's Town, and you're Town, you lose, right?

 

[Kantrip]

Invisible mode is irrelevant.

Even if there are no connections it doesn't mean a team is impossible.

Bardull, you're stating the obvious. What are you trying to perturb him from doing? We ALL know that a ML loses town the game. It's LyLo and this sentiment is pretty obvious.

 

[Vlade]

Just because Raziek is gunning for you doesn't necessarily make Raziek auto-scum. He could be Town who is simply misinformed. You DO realize that, if he's Town, and you're Town, you lose, right?

Course I do

 

[BarDulL]

Kantrip, do people ever tell you that you have a terribly bad habit for speaking out of line?

Vlade, if you realize this, then why are you pinning Raziek as the second scum without an actual thought process to cover for it?

Even I'm at odds who the second scum is; even though RR is gunning for me, that doesn't automatically make him scum (no matter how likely it seems; him defending you and your play is simply gross), but I've kept an open mind about it.

 

[BarDulL]

If this isn't painfully obvious by now, I'm not sure what else I can do other than to try registering the rest of Town in mental hospitals.

 

[Vlade]

Kantrip, do people ever tell you that you have a terribly bad habit for speaking out of line?

Vlade, if you realize this, then why are you pinning Raziek as the second scum without an actual thought process to cover for it?

Even I'm at odds who the second scum is; even though RR is gunning for me, that doesn't automatically make him scum (no matter how likely it seems; him defending you and your play is simply gross), but I've kept an open mind about it.

Bardull/Kantrip - Impossible
Bardull/Red Ryu - Impossible
Bardull/Raziek - Possible

I just don't see the first 2 scumteams existing.

 

[BarDulL]

Oh, spoke too soon; guess you've still got some fight.

Guess that'll be enough for now. RR, do you agree with Vlade's reasoning that BarDulL/Kantrip simply can't exist?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You tunneling insinuates that you're Town in the first place. Scum don't tunnel.

Didn't you call me scummy for tunneling you?

 

[BarDulL]

Didn't you call me scummy for tunneling you?

No, that would be hypocritical of me. I tunneled a lot this game.

 

[BarDulL]

If you are scum, then you're not really tunneling. That's the point.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The thing is, I wouldn't vote for Kantrip/Raziek because they aren't tunneling the **** out of me, but you're literally giving me no choice, Lol. This is piss poor play if you're actually scum, you know.

Here your implying I am tunneling and you have a scum read.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Abid for tunneling.

 

[BarDulL]

The point there is that, if you continue to tunnel me, I have NO CHOICE but to side against you and to hope Raziek and Kantrip are Town because otherwise I lose anyway.

Saying that it was piss poor play if you were scum was a taunt. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't understand why we're pushing this point.

RR, can you shed some light on who you think the second scum is outside of myself and Vlade?

 

[Kantrip]

Through rereading I find RR/Bardull unlikely as well. The way Bardull talked to RR on multiple occasions and again how they are conversing now just doesn't look like SvS distancing.

For me I really have to look between the pairings of RR/Vlade and Bardull/Raz in-depth. Perhaps I'll try to look for connections between these pairs next.

 

[BarDulL]

Look, if you're actually tunneling, that insinuates that you're Town. If you're SCUM, and you feign tunneling, that's not really tunneling.

 

[Kantrip]

[Leaning Town]

Vlade - I kinda see some towny intents from him. I think he is asking good questions, but other than that I don't feel like he's doing much.

Kosha Boy posted this in a reads list. I think it was like the first time he said Vlade's name or addressed him at all. Very non-committal and uses the word "kinda" along with contradicting himself by saying both good things and bad things without conclusive reasoning.

 

[Kantrip]

This sounds like an easy way to put a fallback vote on every player. Although I do agree that eventually we have to compromise on who to lynch, I don't think putting OS at L-1 was warranted. Vlade, is there a reason besides a fallback lynch that you are voting OS?

Second time KB addressed Vlade, this time it was about his vote on the Overswarm wagon, which he also asked Bardull and myself questions about.

Bardull, what do you think of this particular quote?

 

[BarDulL]

It insinuates that RR isn't scum with Vlade, but it could be distancing. It's a legitimate question.

 

[Kantrip]

Interesting.

Anything about the phrasing seem awkward or forced to you? In other words, does it look like distancing?

 

[Kantrip]

Red Ryu I believe you missed a question I asked. Hold up a sec I'll find it for you.

 

[Kantrip]

Never mind it appears I'm imagining things.

@Bardull: Would you be willing to lynch Raziek?

 

[BarDulL]

There is nothing about that question that quote that seems forced.

@Kantrip - Maybe. Raziek knows that Vlade is the correct play, so I wouldn't put it past him to be bussing his partner as scum.

 

[BarDulL]

Then again, Raziek could simply go inactive and allow RR to continue tunneling me, and that would be that.

If RR really isn't scum, I'd have to consider you to be the second scum mate with Vlade, which would be really bothersome to deal with.

 

[Kantrip]

I'm really not keen on a Kosha Boy lynch, but it's better than a no-lynch...

Interesting.

 

[BarDulL]

I'd have to ask Raziek questions and to get him to commit to really know if he's lynch worthy.

I still want to know who he thinks is the second scum.