Kantrip
Kantplay
Asdioh you can be town because I have too many scum reads already. Process of Elimination the other way 'round for once
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What kind of WIFOM question is this? I'm not a mind reader. Why don't you answer the question?Hey KB, I see you viewing. Which of the two would I rather lynch, and why?
I gave examples of J and Gorf (their cases on you), Raziek (his fluffy posting/coasting), you (how I see your responses as scummy, deflections), RF (the whole "Die Sang! Die!" which I'm calling a null tell atm) and Sang (really defensive, but not too defensive). I will admit you have some valid points on Sang and she might be worth looking a little more into.Yeah by the way I'm pretty sure it is Swiss.
You still show no examples of play, actions, or intents, and your stances just look really safe.
I've been busy with things. I haven't spent time with my family in a while, my grandmother came who I rarely have seen recently, had a fail date today, and John has even more ****. Why do I make you nervous?Kantrip, my inebriated state added a whole page of discussion. Clearly town.
Kosha Boy, not only are your stances safe, but you post rarely and I feel like you craft your posts carefully. You make me nervous, and I would still be fine with lynching you right now.
"By God..." Gorf started. "I forgot about the one whose scum was quite apparent! Vote: the Sang Warrior. But let it be known that I am still trying to distinguish whom, of you and the Kosha Boy, holds evil, for one is only evil due to the others innocence, I believe, in this case. And as far as investigations, I believe the Swarm to be a greater target, since the difficulty of distinguish genuine purity vs sheer evil will fare much more difficult with him."Kantrip said:What do you think of Sang?
kantrip spoke words of wisdom, which made gorf remember the third one in question vividly.
"by god..." gorf started. "i forgot about the one whose scum was quite apparent! vote: The sang warrior. But let it be known that i am still trying to distinguish whom, of you and the kosha boy, holds evil, for one is only evil due to the others innocence, i believe, in this case. And as far as investigations, i believe the swarm to be a greater target, since the difficulty of distinguish genuine purity vs sheer evil will fare much more difficult with him."
gorf said:"by god..." gorf started. "i forgot about the one whose scum was quite apparent! vote: The sang warrior. But let it be known that i am still trying to distinguish whom, of you and the kosha boy, holds evil, for one is only evil due to the others innocence, i believe, in this case. And as far as investigations, i believe the swarm to be a greater target, since the difficulty of distinguish genuine purity vs sheer evil will fare much more difficult with him."
gorf said:"by god..." gorf started. "i forgot about the one whose scum was quite apparent! vote: The sang warrior. But let it be known that i am still trying to distinguish whom, of you and the kosha boy, holds evil, for one is only evil due to the others innocence, i believe, in this case.
gorf said:"by god..." gorf started. "i forgot about the one whose scum was quite apparent! vote: The sang warrior.
. .gorf said:vote: The sang warrior.
He STILL hasn't removed it despite having stated his stances on various players in the game. In post #269 he stated his only suspect to be Kantrip, and claimed Raziek to be null due to Raziek's limited posting (he did this for everyone that hasn't posted a great deal).Let the games begin.
Vote: Raziek
uScum, bro?
ಠ_ಠI still don't completely understand what happened with the whole fake dayvig ordeal but it seems to have cleared Kantrip to a reasonable degree, thus I shall remove my vote.
I am not surprised.Kosha Boy is scummy and stanceless and will probably remain so as long as he can
I freaking know right??? This is the most scum-filled D1 I've seen in a while. Luckily, you made yourself town so it makes things easier.
oh that gorf ninja
why are we so town together?
Why are you so concerned in telling people that you're town? Also I noticed how quick you were to clear Kantrip.Buddy: Gorf
You mean the "town trio" in MM Mafia?Nabe/J/Raziek know EXACTLY what I mean, I think.
RVS vote. Didn't notice I still had it.Kosha Boy's voting for Raziek? Was this explained?
I wanted to wait for John's opinion. We have had trouble communicating.Kosha Boy, why didn't you vote for Kantrip back then? After making such a stance it makes sense that you would do so, especially considering he was your only scumpick.
And we beasted.Don't forget freeblock. Town team in MM was both indies and two scum. xD
I didn't like that post by Sang last time. Get consistent, Swiss.The fact Sang lives still fills me with infinite remorse.
Town, or scum with Bardull.Seven shades of gross. Defensive post with little cause; uses "If we were scummates" language; improper logic ("We could change our future actions, therefore your previous observations are invalid": huh?). Shoulder-brush tone to match that logic, coupled with a lack of response to other votes and suspicion in your direction.
What is your read on Bard? Did I miss a vote somewhere?
Kantrip;13855026Why do you think I always become abrasive and defensive? I doubt myself said:You think you have confidence issues now? Try pissing me off. See where that lands you. Ain't pretty kiddo.
Also, don't play the pathetic noob card. Turning into newb-J-scum.
Anyone call self meta on this post?
Regardless, town lean from me. Torn. Tells all show scum but I get the feeling he's pulling a Ranmaru/Chibo on us.
WANTS people to respond to him. Town.I hope that's not all you have to say, Vlade.
Vlade still town.
Ah, that old chesnut.I'll answer for you Bardull, don't worry I got your back.
It's because your initial stance was bad, right?
Please don't tell me Kantrip claims.
Dislike this.What was the point of answering the question for Bardull? What did you have to gain from answering some other person's question? I don't get at all why you took it upon yourself for answering for Bardull. Plus this attitude of telling Raz to slow down for something you did wrong and trying to make it up by saying you asked him in a question.
A question, might I add, that will manipulating his answer. You worded it in a way to influence the outcome and I don't like it at all.
NVM Town lean from later in same post.
#202 town tell
Skipping the J and Kant back and forth. Useless.
Huh.I really don't like Kantrip's recent posts. None of your posts or intents have any townlike substance and I agree a lot with J's case. Something I highly dislike is the fact that you are insulting Gorf. It's uncalled for and a really bad way to deflect Gorf's suspicions.
@Kantrip - I'm not ignoring you, but this half of the hydra doesn't have an answer and I never had a town read on you. I have made the most recent posts. Ask John.
J town, did I say this?
/Skipping all Kantrip posts
/Skipping all J posts
202 is his worst post. Ignore it. Asdioh not obv town.ITT: walls vs walls. Got bored of reading them, started skimming. (I think) I agree with most of J's 205, Kantrip's 202 is really scummy, the first line just set off flags.
Ryker and I laughing IRL over this quote. Right now.Your ego is beyond your ability, so calling me out on the same thing is disheartening.
You have smarts. You have potential. Play a newbie with me. Hell, I might even hydra with you.I'm also saddened by how unanimous everyone's conviction is. I want to change how I approach mafia, but I wouldn't know where to start.
Why Kosha?unvote
vote: kosha boy
100% fine with his lynch toDay.
@J and Kantrip: is there any way to make your back-and-forths directed to the rest of town, or at least readable in some way? I just glaze over them with lack of interest.
@people who have a townread on Radical Fiction: stop it.
@ People with town reads on us: Keep them. Or else.
More. Honest thought process.I dunno, I just find it impossible to focus on that for long. I'll need to do a reread of this thread eventually, and that might be part of the reason.
But like, it seems you're trying to convince Kantrip that he's scum, and Kantrip's trying to convince you that he's not, when you should both be trying to convince the rest of the town on these things.
And Kosha Boy was viewing for a while but now he ISN'T. He's also dangerously stanceless, as he was in B&H mafia.
@ Everyone. For the love of God. Kantrip's baiting an answer from (Bardull?) was NOT scummy. It's baiting. wtf. Think.
I do not feel to the same degree, and I'm better than you. So he must be town, right?Look through his posts. His scumminess is self-explanatory.
If you wanna pressure Kantrip, this is the the post to use.I'm not going to accept that reasoning Kosha Boy. I was trying to respond and defend myself for the longest time, and when J was talking about Sang's wagon I read into it. I was asked to provide what I did against Sang. How the **** can you call it deflecting when J TOLD me to provide the reasoning for my Sang read.
Obviously you are just sheeping a "safe" stance.
Unvote Vote: Kosha Boy
Town tell.Well here are some reads:
Town:
J - Very pro-town motives by scumhunting and laying down reasonings that I think are very solid.
Gorf - I like how he is playing. It seems like town Gorf to me and I am fine. I wish he would do a little more though.
Bardull - I feel like he has had some townie actions and wants to find scum. I didn't like how easily he backed off of his vote on Kantrip but I don't think that he's scum because of it. More that his first vote has been sheeping town.
Leaning town:
RF - He seems to be playing like Ryker which I'm not the biggest fan of, but it reminds me of Utrick'd which I made the mistake that he was scum when he wasn't. I feel like if he wanted Sang lynched he would make more of an effort than "Die Sang! Die!" but I've seen Ryker do this before. A little nervous to put him as full town because I'm not good at reading Ryker.
Vlade - I kinda see some towny intents from him. I think he is asking good questions, but other than that I don't feel like he's doing much.
Null:
Sang - I originally had her as scum due to some misreading and some of her defense is a little overly defensive for my taste, but it's not so much that I think she's scum.
Asidoh - Nothing you've really done or said has swayed me in either direction. Not really sure why.
Anyone I haven't listed - I don't really recall anything from you guys and I would like that to change.
Scum:
Kantrip – I haven’t liked his play and how he has reacted to people like Gorf (which really sounds like a battle of egos) and how he decides to attack Sang really late. He might be telling the truth that he just skimmed over it, but I feel like the pressure on Sang was a major event at the time and Kantrip would’ve at least taken note of it and picked a side. If you really didn’t read it then I guess I
I know that he asked you why. That's not why I think it's a deflection. Most of what you have on Sang to me seems to be based around her defensiveness. Although I'm not a fan of over defensiveness, it's not a scum tell. I saw this more as a way to be opportunistic to try and move the spotlight. I could be wrong and you honestly find Sang scummy. Can you show me some reasons that Sang is scum besides the fact that she was defensive?
Also I finally got a hold of John (he’s been really busy as of late). He said the town vibe on you was RVS and didn’t think that you would actually take it seriously.
Taking this as a leanscum.This is actually a good exercise for me even though I don't know much right now (reading on page 3 as I answer this, train of thought style) since I don't really know who is in the game.
Obv town:
1. Overswarm - Incredibly handsome and charming. Has a neat hat.
Others:
2. Vlade - Takes himself a bit too seriously from what I can see; will likely be more confident in his reads than he should. Don't suggest allowing him to be the spearpoint on any push, but it'll likely come to that anyway.
3. J - same old J as always. No inclination of alignment yet, but same J. Feel slight connection between him and bardull. Enjoy J's approach more than others. Would be most likely to buddy with him, regardless of his alignment, as he is making sense and is one of the few that does.
4. Bardull - WTF @ his vote on Kantrip after your post. Sheep to the extreme. I beat him in the Wifi Wars tournament years ago and still bring it up and laugh at him. WTF @ his unvote for Kantrip after Kantrip produces word vomit.
5. Asdioh - Cool kid. I like 'em.
6. Nabe - Watching Nabe, but no inclination. Him and J are in the same boat.
7. Kantrip - "Abrasive and defensive." Seems insecure of his own abilities and is liable to make a lot of noise if people target him too closely. Am interested in seeing exactly who started this and why, because a certain few here should know better. Definitely doesn't want to die.
8. Gorf - I hate his new style of posting. Will be fine lynching him and anyone who posts like it consistently.
9. Raziek - Left inexplicably blank during my read through. A COINCIDENCE? I think not. Raziek needs to post more and post some specific thoughts.
10. Kosha Boy (John2k4/Inferno3044) - Fallback lynch by default. And then again after reading posts.
11. SangfroidWarrior - Many words. Little substance. Very spread out in terms of attention. has a fruity avatar. Doesn't have family or friends like Overswarm and is suuuuuuper jealous and wants people to know why I'm not that after a 24 hour period. Really REALLY all over the place. Do not like that. Do not like how he is playing the field.
Oh geez. -_-;;
12. Ryker Radical Fiction - odd focus on Vlade early game, but I'm not above picking on people either so whatever. Good reads on Vlade from it. Hate the narrative posts. Would be fine lynching you for that alone. Like your attention to detail and focus on individuals rather than broad sections. Makes you vulnerable later, thus less likely for good scum to do. Even if you were scum, it could and would be used against you later, so... win/win.
You know what I think would be a grand idea? Kantrip and Sanguine arguing with each other over which would be a better lynch choice. We could all wear funny hats and judge them.
/skipping Gorf posts
@ Mod does our BP work during the day****
undaykill
Daykill: Radical Fiction
Mmmmso i'm pretty sure kantrip is town even though he's really freaking scummy.
that leaves Sang and Kosha Boy. Kosha Boy is guaranteed scum, my daycop (which I used on Overswarm and got Town) confirms this. As much as I hate to have the same reads as radical fiction, I have to agree that Sang is probably scum.
._.
I waver on you.
Worst scumpicks possible.Go check out my recent posts -- one was a response telling you I haven't read, and the other was a post with lynches I'd take (Gorf, Kantrip, J). Now couple those responses: I don't have scumreads, but those are fairly close.
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You're a scumpick.I know this is a gif, but I'll be camned if my internet can load it.
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Remember when Kuz was on so many substances that I was convinced he had to be town? Imagine this, except fewer substances, and actually town.
Full reads.
1. Overswarm - Scum
2. Vlade - Town
3. J - Town
4. Bardull - Disagree
5. Asdioh - Scum
6. Nabe - Town
7. Kantrip - Town
8. Gorf - Town
9. Raziek - Town Lean
10. Kosha Boy (John2k4/Inferno3044) - Town lean
11. SangfroidWarrior - Scum
12. Ryker Radical Fiction - SK
OS, Sang or Asdioh.
I noticed that as well. I'm keeping my eye on Asdioh.Why are you so concerned in telling people that you're town? Also I noticed how quick you were to clear Kantrip.
YepYou mean the "town trio" in MM Mafia?
Alright, that's fine then. I'd expect you would have voted me but neglecting to do so is not scummy, so whatever.RVS vote. Didn't notice I still had it.
I've noticed this, so I'm willing to look past some glaring mistakes by your slot in this game. However, only if you can answer this question for me honestly.I wanted to wait for John's opinion. We have had trouble communicating.
Where did you get your Kosha Boy suspicion from?Raz, I hope you read the QT afterwards! I was really sorry that your first buddying experience was so unlucky. ;__;
I'd rather lynch KB over Kanty but I'd rather lynch Kanty over Sang.
Unvote
Vote: Kosha Boy
If so, you should be really glad you weren't in the thread. That's something you shouldn't interfere with, regardless of how fake it may look.tbh asdioh, when i read your post, i knew it was fake. :|. claiming that you didn't have a read on J/Nabe, then telling them they could determine your vig shot was illogical. definitely would have called you out on it if i had been in the thread.
With Asdioh I agree with you.the assertion that kantrip is inno based on this worries me substantially. vlade's unvote is also odd because he was tunneling kantrip, yet now he just flat out backed off without really reading into why kantrip was presumably clear. this is inherently scummy and leaves a nasty taste in my mouth. ;/
gonna reread thoroughly and post my reads in my next post
The only game I've played with Nabe was when he was indy, and I laughed plentyWeird, being, I don't know whether he is serious or not but something makes me really wanna put Nabe as scum while another side doesn't want me too. I don't know I need to really think about Nabe since he is so perplexing a character.
[superficial reasoning]Hasn't made me laugh yet so he's probably scum.[/superficial reasoning]
Not sure what the context of this statement is, but the periods after every word at the end give it an angry inflection that makes you even scummier.Okay, chill your beans Kantrip. I am blown away that you took my whole town vibe on you thing that seriously.
It. Was. RVS.
I look forward to your scumslips.Working on a somewhat-large post to come soon.
-John
Even if what happened in Britches and Hose was faked, and you weren't actually angry, I'm sure you know it was faked well. I believed it, and I felt like ****. Believe me Swiss, I know how temporary lapses of full ****** feel.Reading as I go.
Has Ryker posted anything? Hope I don't screw up a gambit.
Or have different reads to him.
Well, not so much that.
Anyway.
Sang 163 mad relaxed, makes me feel better. Let's assume she's been coached and is still scum though. Gonna stay on her till one of us dies.
I didn't like that post by Sang last time. Get consistent, Swiss.
Gorf quit using my posting style. Mimicking other players doesn't make you a better player. Take pointers, don't literally try and be me. Plus it's annoying.
Town, or scum with Bardull.
Nabe not scum with Asdioh.
@ Kantrip 117 - Nope. Top area, all wrong.
You think you have confidence issues now? Try pissing me off. See where that lands you. Ain't pretty kiddo.
I believe I called self-meta on myself.Also, don't play the pathetic noob card. Turning into newb-J-scum.
Anyone call self meta on this post?
Care to give a brief synopsis on what "pulling a Ranmaru/Chibo" entails?Regardless, town lean from me. Torn. Tells all show scum but I get the feeling he's pulling a Ranmaru/Chibo on us.
Glad I'm not the only one picking up on this. Not sure what to think of people calling Asdioh obv-town again when he's far from it so far.WANTS people to respond to him. Town.
Vlade still town.
Ah, that old chesnut.
Please don't tell me Kantrip claims.
Dislike this.
NVM Town lean from later in same post.
#202 town tell
Skipping the J and Kant back and forth. Useless.
Huh.
J town, did I say this?
/Skipping all Kantrip posts
/Skipping all J posts
202 is his worst post. Ignore it. Asdioh not obv town.
~DaT CaLlOuT~Ryker and I laughing IRL over this quote. Right now.
Swiss, you made me feel better. Thank you.You have smarts. You have potential. Play a newbie with me. Hell, I might even hydra with you.
Thank you.Why Kosha?
@ People with town reads on us: Keep them. Or else.
More. Honest thought process.
@ Everyone. For the love of God. Kantrip's baiting an answer from (Bardull?) was NOT scummy. It's baiting. wtf. Think.
I assume disagree means the two heads think Bardull is a different alignment? Which one thinks he's town?I do not feel to the same degree, and I'm better than you. So he must be town, right?
If you wanna pressure Kantrip, this is the the post to use.
Town tell.
Taking this as a leanscum.
/skipping Gorf posts
@ Mod does our BP work during the day
Mmmm
I waver on you.
Worst scumpicks possible.
You're a scumpick.
Full reads.
1. Overswarm - Scum
2. Vlade - Town
3. J - Town
4. Bardull - Disagree
5. Asdioh - Scum
6. Nabe - Town
7. Kantrip - Town
8. Gorf - Town
9. Raziek - Town Lean
10. Kosha Boy (John2k4/Inferno3044) - Town lean
11. SangfroidWarrior - Scum
12. Ryker Radical Fiction - SK
OS, Sang or Asdioh.