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Active Player Thread: Ones who does not have Triforce can't go in

riocosta123

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The Sheik PR thread was basically just an excuse to flame each other. I don't think it's terribly productive. The same could be said for just about any other *insert character* PR thread.

I think <3 is right in that it just distracts us from actually improving things about our game (such as doing a little research to find that ZSS does not have 0-death on us).
 

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That's some good stuff right there. Polt was on his **** but you gotta get over that Afro hump!

Is the interview thread ever going to happen? I kinda thought that was a neat idea.

Big Local tourney on Monday for me, got some demons to overcome here in Tampa.
 

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Got a buy round one.

game one was versus raz... won game 1 game two he almost three stcoked me on brinstar... I won game two because of an unnecessary suicide on his part. He won't go pika against me though... because sheik can transform.

you don't understand... I have the matches versus polt gah~ its a yoshi~

I had an 100% lead first stock yoshi is so heavy and hard to kill/gimp. ug game two you should of seen the silliness stage flips and he is under it... as yoshi he double jumps way over to once side but he is too far from the dge to grab it his momentum won't let the egg toss help him back. up wait! here comes the side plat! lol. all our matches were last hit high percent I just didn't understand some of the things Yoshi is capable of and it cost me some unnecessary stocks. especially game two.

in losers I played Hiroi a peach main. Hard~ nair OOS help me so much against dair presure and let me safely reset versus a lot of peaches presure game where a grab wasn't an option. vanish net me a lot of kills in the match up it is completely safe even on wiff unless the peach like rolls into the direction you are vanishing somehow.

Oh... I beat TommyG a falco~ he called the match up 70-30 which was hip. ftilt lock got me tons of percent but rarely lead directly to upsmash because you cannot lock falco if he smash DIs up!! (I knew it) Most of my kills came from jab->dsmash and gimps. game 1 was on FD won with 1 stock I think game 2 was on RC; so mad at how I lost; 100% lead last stock 2 minutes left, he grabs me as the stage is moving down chain grabs me into an fsmash for a star KO. I die just before he does off the top. Game three I win with 1 stock off of a solid gimp.

Afro, 100% lead to start the first game... he adapted pretty well though. last hit game one cuz snake doesn't die. Game 2 I CP SV I pretty much get rolled I start the match with like 70% or something? really hard to bringv it back after that I get two stocked.


Seibrik 3stocked me in friendlies. >: (
 

stealth3654

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The interview thread could happen if someone actually starts it. We also need a list of people that we can interview. I'm not doing it because I kinda suck at running threads.

Have fun with that laundry. :p
 

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does this character have a shot vs mk? legitimate question as i'm trying to decide what i'm going to do vs him.

i watched an old video of neo and a recent video of ankoku and f-tilt seems to be really hard for sheik still...
 

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does this character have a shot vs mk? legitimate question as i'm trying to decide what i'm going to do vs him.

i watched an old video of neo and a recent video of ankoku and f-tilt seems to be really hard for sheik still...
Yeah, Sheik can do the MK match-up. She has swiftness, needles, ftilt, and a grab release to tipper DACUS which kills MK at around 85% depending on their DI. Because of this, MK's will ban FD against you.
 

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Junk: I haven't played Sheik vs MK in a long time, but it is definitely manageable. Not valid as a counterpicking secondary for that matchup, though.
 

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He's basically saying if it is marginally worse/better than DDD v. MK lol

ftilt1 imo is mean when properly spaced to anyone not named snake or DDD (which have their own problems to deal with lol)

from the little experience I've had, sheik pretty much has to hope for MK mispacing it too close (so she can punish oos) or use a bit of her stronger maneuverability to let a whiff happen.

All I know about the MU is by now I've gotten used to getting hit by a free SL/aerial while trying to land onstage with my recovery, playing both Lucario and sheik lol.

Oh yeah, and tornado is nasty to sheik sometimes, particularly when landing. (then again, tornado in general is stupid), but the plus side is she often has the capability to avoid a lot more pressure than most characters so that she still has options to move by outmaneuvering dair camping and punishing patterns within it, which I think is what might be the reason tornado seems to come up far less often than it should lol. This I'm not too sure about, seeing as how nearly every recent sheik video I've seen against MK they almost never use tornado lol.

the other regret is how horrible she is at getting back onstage. I feel Sheik has to play a very strict stage control game and maximize on what she gets for as long as possible, because every time you get offstage you eat soooo much damage whether you make it back to the ledge or not lol.
 

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PnT Summer of Smash Event #4 (Free Entry). Tampa, FL. 7/19/2010
2nd out of 61 singles ($50)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=281354

There was also a side low tier tourney with around 50. I took first in that but it was single elimination due to time constraints. I'll see if the owner saved the brackets but the rules were actually legit for the first time in a long time lol.
 

riocosta123

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I think the only exception is if you can cp FD w/Sheik. Like, lead with your main on the first match, then go for the CP if you lose.

I really believe Sheik vs MK on FD is extremely close and much better than most high tier match ups.
 

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PnT Summer of Smash Event #4 (Free Entry). Tampa, FL. 7/19/2010
2nd out of 61 singles ($50)
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=281354

There was also a side low tier tourney with around 50. I took first in that but it was single elimination due to time constraints. I'll see if the owner saved the brackets but the rules were actually legit for the first time in a long time lol.
Post the results w/ the prize amounts in Ankoku's thread on tactical!
 

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you will never play an MK on FD as sheik though. most people ban FD for sheik in general so you have to learn other stages. learning Rainbow, BF, SV, and Halbred are huge as a sheik main, you can't stick to just FD.
 

riocosta123

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The Sheik/Wario combination works pretty well for me because MK usually bans Battlefield against Wario (at least in my experience), but yeah, if you lead with Falco it's sort of moot.
 

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Flip it. BF is a bad Wario stage for that matchup against MK.
 

riocosta123

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@<3: This was more in response to Junk's question of whether he should counter pick Sheik for the MU and I basically told him the one scenario (I guess two if you think FD=Picto, but I don't like it as much) where I thought it was okay.

@ DMG: I never said it was! I just said, when I go Wario people don't ban FD usually. The most common bans I found were Brinstar or BF. In any case, there are a fair amount of character combinations that could lead to FD being open.
 

Judo777

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I know me some yoshi matchup <3 one of my good friends is one of the better yoshis in the nation. If u want some tips i can help u out and tell u tricks to gimping yoshi.
 

Judo777

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sure I love advice.
I'll post it up a little later i just got back from a long trip. Also i think that we can ftilt lock falco to death bot dear lord its hard. IF they DI upward what i have found is that u can slow down ur tilt lock pace a little bit (because if u dont know tilt lock frames are pretty lax and u can do it a few speed and it still work). I believe if u slow down ur tilt lock paace and let him fall a little deeper into the lock each time u can maintain and finish him at like 100 or so but when u have to keep track of that and turning around ur ftilt it gets hard.

Tilt locking people with good DI and SDI is fairly hard and the difficulty is very under exaggerated. IMO fox is the easiest, Wolf is a little harder cause we have to do it longer and falcos is the hardest cause of his weight i think IDK but from personal experience that seems to be the case.
 
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