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3 Snakes on a Dojo!

Leobenmc

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Down + B = Cardboard Box
Down Smash = Claymore
That Missile Downwards on Pit in the Nintendo World trailer could either be
1) Side B, but with an immediate Down Tilt so it's aimed down
2) Down Tilt...
I'd rather a Down Tilt :D
Why are Snake's Grenades thrown with B, and not with A (like with Link)? I think it's so that Snake uses his faster A Moves, rather than his B moves. When you have a Bomb with Link, you can still pull out Boomerangs, Shoot Arrows and Spin Attack to keep people away. If Snake was forced to use the other B moves while holding a Grenade, he'd have to cope with a Cypher (which just flies him upwards), a Cardboard box (which looks to be slow - notice he's in the process of removing it in front of Mario, more than 1 frame), and his Nikita...
Snake'll have to use his A Moves to have a fighting chance when holding a grenade, to keep enemies at bay...
That's my guess anyway...
 

h1roshi

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snake looksreally fun. his up+b gets ridiculous vertical distance. meaning pretty good recovery. and i can imagine how nasty his grenades will be for edgegaurding. as well as his side+b. his grab looks awesome. also, sakurai just confirmed a MGS stage. so i cant wait to see how his stage turns out...peace

-hiroshi
 

toASTito

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Maybe they are going to implement two different grabs per character, depending on if you grab on the front or back of your opponent. It wouldn't be overly complicated would it?
 

DH_Ninja

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i think Snakes grab will be unique, meaning i don't think there will be two grabs.
 

Fanewgie

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Look at the Characters page on the Dojo website.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/index.html

Where's the next character going to go? Are these the starting characters, or does it mean nothing and a new line will be added for the next character? We'll see.
This question is brought up every single time a line fills and it's met with the same response.

In other words, it was silly to even consider asking this question.
 

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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Even though Sakurai's hint that: "It’s not just Snake’s special moves that use ordnance—so do his Smash attacks." and we are shown an image of Snake burying a landmine, I'm having difficulty seeing how that could possibly work as a standard smash attack. I'm thinking that most likely it would work like Samus' smash-dA, but I can't see how it would work like a smash attack at all. I would have thought that would be Snake's dB: burry a mine, blows up when stepped on. But how will it work if it's a standard attack? Does it blow up right away? Or, are you able to plant it and walk away? (insanely disjointed hitbox) I can see how the smash-uA works, but the landmine just baffles me.

snake looksreally fun. his up+b gets ridiculous vertical distance.
And this gives way to this theory that I have that Snake will be a phenominal fighter. Why do I say that? I say that, because his uB looks like the most useless attack in the game. Floats you straight up, maybe hovers you... it really doesn't look like it has any offensive purposes.
(Balancing issues much, Mr Sakurai?)

Maybe they are going to implement two different grabs per character, depending on if you grab on the front or back of your opponent. It wouldn't be overly complicated would it?
I don't think Snake, or any other character will have two grabs. Not to say that I couldn't see it happening, but I just have a feeling that the grab shown will be his standard grab. Because think about it, how does Snake grab his enemies in his games?

A) If he's behind them, he puts them in an arm bar, and puts a knife to their throat hand over their mouth...
B) If he's in front of them, he judo chops them, grabs their arm by the elbow, spins them around, puts them in an arm bar, and puts a knife to their throat hand over their mouth...

Basically, he ends up in the same position regardless of where he is. He's never in front of them... ever. Why would Sakurai change that? If he altered the way Snake grabs and holds people, he could have taken away one of the most crucial things that makes Snake so badass.
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Oh, and SSBB is now rated "M"...


(**** Scenes)

Snake: "I've heard about you b****, and I'm gonna get this armor off, Smashball or not! I may be new here but everyone tells me that underneath all that steel you've got a sweet body."

Ike: <muffled>"{Mppft!}...{gasp!}...I really think you have me confused for someone else! {Mppft!}"
 

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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It says MGS4. I wasn't aware MGS4 was on the Wii.

Anyone think that his mines would be awesome if you put them by the edge when someone is trying to recover? :)
The title of the song reads: "Metal Gear Solid: MGS4 Love Theme (Smash Bros. Brawl Version)"
There will not be a Wii MGS4 title...






(oh... I just made myself sad... :urg:)
 

Kadian

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I'm right here! What a silly question.
It surprises me, that despite being conditioned by over a month's worth of updates and new reveals, I still get so excited over the daily posts Sakurai puts up. Even the recent goodies, WiFi and Snake, which were known/expected, makes me that much more crazed with anticipation waiting for Brawl.

I think it's a testament to the love and care put into the game. The detail if each item, the authenticity of each stage, the nostalgic sound of each music piece, every aspect and feature feels as if inordinate attention and thought was put into it. Taken as a whole, the sheer quantity and quality of this game, as little as we know of it, simply amazes me. It's bigger, brighter, better than I imagined, and shaping up to be every bit as good as we had hoped.

Just wanted to say.
 

Kabyk-Greenmyst

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How is the up and down smash going to work? I would've been fine with a normal attack. I don't think they'll be useful at all, but still probably very cool looking, although they'll make bowsers f-smash look lightning fast unfortunately.

And hell yea to the grab! first legit looking grab. other characters just grab by the shirt neck, and the grabbed pretend they cant get out of it. this is awesome and a real-life grab. and he's doing it against Ike! +10000
 

NukeA6

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LINKS AND PICS OR IT NEVER HAPPENED.

Seriously, a link to where that was said, please. I can't find it.

Also, if he -is- unlockable, what does that mean for all the other characters that've been revealed? Are we sure that they're all starters now?


This update owns so many people in so many different ways.
Google it. It's on various game sites. Snake was mentioned as a secret character the same day when Sakurai said there may be one or two more third-party characters. Of course, he can change his mind.
 

Kirye

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Snake: "I've heard about you b****, and I'm gonna get this armor off, Smashball or not! I may be new here but everyone tells me that underneath all that steel you've got a sweet body."

Ike: <muffled>"{Mppft!}...{gasp!}...I really think you have me confused for someone else! {Mppft!}"
LMFAO. XD Everyone obviously meant Ganondorf.

And I get the feeling Snake is gonna be my first real "Try and get good" character in Brawl. Sure, Metaknight is badass and Pit looks fun, but this guy is just awesome. Plus my main might not make it back, and Peach can stay as my second best. D:
 

Fawriel

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How is the up and down smash going to work? I would've been fine with a normal attack. I don't think they'll be useful at all, but still probably very cool looking, although they'll make bowsers f-smash look lightning fast unfortunately.
Snake will be the king of mindgames. Imagine how versatile such an up-smash would be. Sure, you have to somehow set it up so it even hits, but can ANY other smash hit at such a distance? I think not. And it'll most likely pack quite a punch, too... He might just become the best fighter in the game. Or completely suck. We'll see.
 

Super Smash Master

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LMFAO. XD Everyone obviously meant Ganondorf.

And I get the feeling Snake is gonna be my first real "Try and get good" character in Brawl. Sure, Metaknight is badass and Pit looks fun, but this guy is just awesome. Plus my main might not make it back, and Peach can stay as my second best. D:
You know everyone want's Gannondorf's package from melee to return. His pelvic thrust in his taunt always made me laugh. XDD
 

jambre

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havnt read threw 10 pages but could his box move be his taunt or one of them as there might be 4?

also the music reminds me of pirates of the carribean
 

Tyrannotaur

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24 characters in total now.

Snake seems alot cooler than I expected. I can't wait to try him out.

I really don't think that Mine is his down Smash. I think it is his Down B. His down Smash is probably when he fires a missile at the ground ( it was shown in one of the videos).

I have to say.. I hope the box is his taunt. He goes in the box then pops out and says "SHOOOOWWWW TIME!!!" like he did in the first video. The longer you hold down the taunt button the longer he stays in the box. Once you release it he pops out.
That would be cool.
 

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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You know everyone want's Gannondorf's package from melee to return. His pelvic thrust in his taunt always made me laugh. XDD
Has anyone ever noticed the bulge in Link's skirt during the opening AMV of Melee?
... it's rather impressive! :psycho:(no homo)

EDIT:
(Just so I can stay on topic and not get hit for spam)

I have a feeling Snake's smash-uA will be sort of cartoony. Like, he'll pull the launcher out from his back pocket and set it up in a matter of a second.

He's going to be like Link and Samus in a way:
Link is a weapons specialist from a fantasy past-type world.
Samus is a weapons specialist from a sci-fi future-type world.
Snake is a weapons specialist from a sci-fi present-type world with hints of fantasy in tow.

They've all got great strength, they've all got decent or good recovery (depending on how good you are with them), they have an amazing arsenal at their disposals, they're heavy, and they're kinda slow.
 

Revven

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Well, I'm thoroughly impressed with today's update. Despite the fact that I've never played an MGS game nor even remotely liked Snake, I'm beginning to feel like I will use him as one of my top 10. Who could EVER resist his amazing unique way to grab people? Who could ever resist such a moveset that is combo heaven? Long range being his smash attacks and short range being his tilts, something Sakurai has never done before.

It makes you wonder if you can charge them despite them being projectiles and the like? Will they improve if they're charged? Like get bigger? Or just do more damage? Snake being more overpowered in projectiles than Samus!? I DARE SAY YES!

Snake > Samus until I play the game. I also LOVE the music...
 

abit_rusty

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hmph, now that everyone's seen what he can do, all of a sudden they want to play as him eh? I was pro-snake from the start! .... :p

anyway hooray for new challengers
 

Igneous42

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I likes it. Snake is gonna be a fun character. A very different character but fun. I am a pretty big MGS fan so seeing snake is awesome. He's easily my favorite announced newcomer
 

X-x-Dyce-x-X

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^^^^
{Pffft} I was pro-Snake from the start with you, abit_rusty.

Nice to see Snake picked up some appreciation finally. Now, I bet a lot less people will be ripping him saying "Oh, he doesn't fit well in the Smash Universe! Kick him out! m0r3 p0k3m0n 4 t3h w1nz!!1!!!1!11!"

EDIT:
And I'm in total agreement with the entire SWF in saying: The MGS4 Love Song does NOT get old! I <3 it so so soooo much! I can't wait to see the stage!
 

Igneous42

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^^^^
{Pffft} I was pro-Snake from the start with you, abit_rusty.

Nice to see Snake picked up some appreciation finally. Now, I bet a lot less people will be ripping him saying "Oh, he doesn't fit well in the Smash Universe! Kick him out! m0r3 p0k3m0n 4 t3h w1nz!!1!!!1!11!"

EDIT:
And I'm in total agreement with the entire SWF in saying: The MGS4 Love Song does NOT get old! I <3 it so so soooo much! I can't wait to see the stage!
I was pro snake too. It helped that I was playing through MGS 3 when they announced brawl. So not only was I a MGS fan but I was really into MGS when they said snake was in. So i've always been like yay for Snake. Unless they somehow add Dante of Devil May Cry, no third party character can beat snake in my eyes. especially not sonic
 

WarMachine

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Def my favorite music update so far.

I'm curious about his mines. If they're A moves, do they blow up the moment you put them in the ground to function somewhat like a normal attack? Or are his smash attacks going to function more like special moves? I'm personally hoping the mine is just his down B and the rocket attack we've seen before is his down smash.


And the Ike picture is pure gold. Take that, sissy sword users. =]
 
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