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- Thread starter Shiri
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Smash Ace
good vids but that meta in teams was to much lol
Meta Dude
Smash Rookie
valiant effort against pika.
nub?
Smash Rookie
shiri you're my hero 
you totally should've won BOTH matches vs pikachu. The pikachu just kept spamming his downb
and your vids showed me how effective yoshi's double a jab is for setting up small combos and for spacing. oh and i liked how you would run away then go to a pivot grab or a bair/dair it works nice
you totally should've won BOTH matches vs pikachu. The pikachu just kept spamming his downb and your vids showed me how effective yoshi's double a jab is for setting up small combos and for spacing. oh and i liked how you would run away then go to a pivot grab or a bair/dair it works nice
Thanks for the comments.And nub?, Yoshi's jabs are even better in Brawl, I think. Yoshi's grabs are awesome, and the punishment is so toned down that I was pretty much spamming them without care at that point; however, that's not a very smart way to play, so I'm toning down my grabs. And yeah, while I would have liked to win against PikaPika!, they were both very close matches and he's pretty solid, so I'm not upset with how I did.
Hopefully I'll have more after this weekend's tournament.
-PM-
Smash Ace
Whos your main Shiri?
doom dragon 105
Smash Lord
honestly i dont unnecessarily like the way u play. you play too safe a bit defensive. i missed alot of kills playing it safe. your very good don't get me wrong but you could have won all of them if you played a bit more offensive. yoshi can put good pressure so use it.
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Smash Ace
Wait really? lol
Mr Nobody
Smash Cadet
Wario is so good! He is among the most annoying characters to play against, though, for sure. He has amazing priority and uair absolutely destroys people. Unlucky. You would have won if you grab camped me every match instead of just the first, but that was real long ago and hardly matters anymore now.
Just as a note to those who question Shiri's aggression: the way he played those matches was very smart, especially vs me. I'm not trying to be Mr. Ego here, but I am a fairly competent powershielder, and Wario does not have much trouble comboing Yoshi; if he had just charged in, I would have powershield-grabbed him and brought the pain. From what I've noticed playing with Shiri, he knows his matchups very well and knows when to challenge priority and be aggressive and when to play a little more defensively. Wario is a real bad match for Yoshi and Pikachu seems to be as well, but I'm no Yoshi expert.
Perhaps some videos of my DK vs Yoshi will be uploaded at some point to showcase what kind of combos Yoshi is truly capable of. Hahaha.
Just as a note to those who question Shiri's aggression: the way he played those matches was very smart, especially vs me. I'm not trying to be Mr. Ego here, but I am a fairly competent powershielder, and Wario does not have much trouble comboing Yoshi; if he had just charged in, I would have powershield-grabbed him and brought the pain. From what I've noticed playing with Shiri, he knows his matchups very well and knows when to challenge priority and be aggressive and when to play a little more defensively. Wario is a real bad match for Yoshi and Pikachu seems to be as well, but I'm no Yoshi expert.
Perhaps some videos of my DK vs Yoshi will be uploaded at some point to showcase what kind of combos Yoshi is truly capable of. Hahaha.
Spyckie
Smash Apprentice
Go Shiri! Abuse that pivot grab!
I'm kind of sad, because I don't have anything to say but yoshi seems kinda... underpowered. The match against Pikachu... I don't think pikachu was playing well, because he approached in ways that left him wide open.
A couple of good points -
Loved the pivot grab. I think pivot to egg spam is the best combo in the game (hahahah yeah...), and maybe the best tactic a yoshi player can do.
Loved the down+b kills.
Jabs are very useful.
A couple of bad points -
Yoshi is only average in the air, as seen by the wario, MK, and pikachu and all other vids - dunno what you can do about that.
Why the charged smashes??? I would say get rid of those and I would love your yoshi to death. Then again, I wouldn't know what to do in that situation either... use your reaction speed to powershield approaches? run away?
A couple of whatifs -
I would like to see more egg laying... not sure if its good or not, but it seems to be yoshi's best front attack in the air, especially against guys with strong priority. (it can also be djc'ed)
I would like to see better egg throwing, or tactical egg positioning... dunno if that's possible either.
Any thoughts about yoshi's abilities against other characters? Where is yoshi strongest and where is he weakest?
I think all of yoshi's attacks make him too vulnerable except for his pivot and projectile.. and maybe the jab. It was the same in melee actually, except the djc made a lot of his subpar attacks unpredictable, thus, easier to hit with.
I'm kind of sad, because I don't have anything to say but yoshi seems kinda... underpowered. The match against Pikachu... I don't think pikachu was playing well, because he approached in ways that left him wide open.
A couple of good points -
Loved the pivot grab. I think pivot to egg spam is the best combo in the game (hahahah yeah...), and maybe the best tactic a yoshi player can do.
Loved the down+b kills.
Jabs are very useful.
A couple of bad points -
Yoshi is only average in the air, as seen by the wario, MK, and pikachu and all other vids - dunno what you can do about that.
Why the charged smashes??? I would say get rid of those and I would love your yoshi to death. Then again, I wouldn't know what to do in that situation either... use your reaction speed to powershield approaches? run away?
A couple of whatifs -
I would like to see more egg laying... not sure if its good or not, but it seems to be yoshi's best front attack in the air, especially against guys with strong priority. (it can also be djc'ed)
I would like to see better egg throwing, or tactical egg positioning... dunno if that's possible either.
Any thoughts about yoshi's abilities against other characters? Where is yoshi strongest and where is he weakest?
I think all of yoshi's attacks make him too vulnerable except for his pivot and projectile.. and maybe the jab. It was the same in melee actually, except the djc made a lot of his subpar attacks unpredictable, thus, easier to hit with.
JesiahTEG
Smash Master
Your Yoshi is even better than it was in Melee. Keep it up, and see you in a few hours.
doom dragon 105
Smash Lord
yea it would be nice if yoshi had a bit more priority lol
Doom dragon, I see where you're coming from. The one thing I think is that in all three of those singles matchups I had, those characters have hand-over-fist priority over Yoshi, especially in the air (Wario's overall priority is just barely short of terribly annoying and Pikachu is just ********). It's kinda hard to be successfully aggressive against priority like that, especially when almost any aerial leads into a KO move from them. Admittedly, though, that was my first time fighting Snake as Yoshi, so that was just me being overly cautious. If I ever play a King Dedede, an Ike, or a Captain Falcon, you'll probably see me be much more aggressive. Thanks for the advice, though. I'll try to keep that in mind, especially against PikaPika!.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
i love how u used the grabs. I wish yoshid had more killing moves. Are i wish his moves were more potent
yea i noticed you love to smash and not tilt, also eggroll more! its actually a really good approach this time around! pika is a hard match for yoshi so its good that you played smart try approaching with bair because of disjointed hitboxes!
also went to a tournament yesterday, did pretty good, im going to try and get vids up of my yoshi, but its on my SD card as a replay and its a teams match, any help?
also went to a tournament yesterday, did pretty good, im going to try and get vids up of my yoshi, but its on my SD card as a replay and its a teams match, any help?
yeah im hoping to get some recorded then today. awesome vids though dude they were fun to watch
lol also results are up here
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4277150#post4277150
haha 13th out of 40 people and the only yoshi to boot! things are looking good for this little dinosaur!
lol also results are up here
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=4277150#post4277150
haha 13th out of 40 people and the only yoshi to boot! things are looking good for this little dinosaur!
Gindler
Smash Champion
Ha, yeah the most recent tourney I went to (128 people is more than I thought). And I was the only Yoshi there, I was like geez not even 1% of people use yoshi around here?
-PM-
Smash Ace
Shiri wait till you see my vids up =P
bigman40
Smash Master
Nice Shiri. Can't wait till we get I head back home to fight ya. Of course, there's still wifi XD
TheFast
Smash Lord
are team matches always played with friendly fire on?
Scarlet Jile
Smash Lord
Sweetest team match-up ever:
Pit and Yoshi, man. Bouncing arrows off Yoshi's shield at different angles FTW.
Seriously, it's hilarious. A friend and I have been messing around with it.
Pit and Yoshi, man. Bouncing arrows off Yoshi's shield at different angles FTW.
Seriously, it's hilarious. A friend and I have been messing around with it.
Depster
Smash Champion
You have a nice, quick, Yoshi, and that's what I like to see. You've obviously nailed all the great techniques right on and have moved to mindgames. Still haven't dittoed you...
bigman40
Smash Master
Shiri getting dem dittos on! We need a rematch man! ^_^
TechnoMonster
Smash Ace
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You seem to be fairly KO challenged. You get greedy when its time to get the kill. Try camping when opponents are at high percents, put them in uncomfortable situations.
Sharky
Smash Master
I have trouble with that a lot too. Kirk slaughters me because of that. >.<
JesiahTEG
Smash Master
Kirk slaughters everybody buddy, don't worry about it. xD
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Deleted member
Guest
Id like to see what u do against D3, i have trouble.
OneWingedAngelo1
Smash Journeyman
Air Combo at 2:10 of game 2 on snake is just too good
SOVAman
Smash Hero
Great fight with Mamba but one thing you should do is down-B above him if he uses the up-smash (Mortar) because it will cut right though it and hit him i have gotten a few KO's with that.
SOVAman
Smash Hero
indeed that was very very nice its like a ken combo with Yoshi lol
DKKountry
Smash Ace
I like your play style Shiri. I use Bair a bit more though, it's a pretty decent approach, and for some reason I don't use Yoshi's DownB off of the ground very much.... hmm... whatever.