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13 Year Old Father/PLOT TWIST ON PAGE 3!

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Chooch said:
[url=http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2233878.ece]The Sun article[/url] said:
Baby-faced Alfie, who is 13 but looks more like eight, became a father four days ago when his girlfriend Chantelle Steadman gave birth to 7lb 3oz Maisie Roxanne.

He told how he and Chantelle, 15, decided against an abortion after discovering she was pregnant. The shy lad, whose voice has not yet broken, said: “I thought it would be good to have a baby.

“I didn’t think about how we would afford it. I don’t really get pocket money. My dad sometimes gives me £10.”
So when he's in his senior year of high school his baby will likely be walking and talking. Interesting.
Ok, ew, no. Got this from Chooch on KRR, who got this from The Sun. Click "The Sun article" in the name section of the person doing the quoting.
 

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Look at him, that boy looks so young. And sad. They will make terrible parents, of course. The grandparents will be forced to do most of the parenting. And from the looks of it, both sides grandparents either have 6 kids already, or aren't with the family anymore. Plus they live in "budgeted living centers?" This situation does not sound good...
Hopefully this will be a warning to any other, uh, middle schoolers out there who are already messing around.
 

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The early bird catches the worm.
I'm surprised his sperm is viable at 13.
 

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He got her pregnant when he was 12
If their ages were reversed, the boy would be put in jail for definite.
Oh well it;s a funny world we live in. I personally found this news article amusing.
 

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And the girl he had sex with... the word "how" describes my feelings.
 

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how can a 13 year old and a 15 year old have a serious discussion about abortion?? This kid is screwed.
 
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Hmm, Wonder how his parents reacted...

Parents: What did you do at Chantelle's house?
Kid: Uhh...
 

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haha no i didn't know there was pictures up.

god**** that chick must live in a house made of trashy cocaine rofl


also kid's like 6. 13 no way.
 

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OMG. That dough-faced ***** and an embryo being parents? If they didn't want an abortion, I would literally sneak into someones room at night brandishing a clotheshanger. Ugh. I can't even imagine them having sex.

And If I can't do that, you're hideous.
 

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I think the real question is which of them will become a Young offender first?

What I don't understand is why the parents were ok with this, I know if I had a 13 year old and he told me he was gonna be a Dad, I'd hit the roof.
 

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How the hell did he manage to get that far? What, was the girlfriend on crack or something and how the hell did he know about ex? Seriously, there has to be another person behind this, maybe the parents? Nah, now im just going ahead myself, but really a 13-year old getting it?

How old was the girlfriend? Is she 15? Man I got so many questions to ask her if I get a chance to talk to her face to face. But now what was done was done and the only way I can sum up everything that I was to lazy to type in this post.....



d=(^_^)=b
 

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****it. People shouldn't be having so many children as it is. A lot of people have children because everyone else is doing it too. They don't care about bringing up another human so that they can help raise crops or livestock, or build houses with the family, or hunt, or etc, etc. Survival is [almost] no longer an issue in this world. People are having children for no ****ing reason left and right, or in the words of Alfie, "I thought it would be good to have a baby."

No, it's not good Alfie. Not for you, not for Chanelle, not for your family, friends, or the entire world. Of course he's not the only adolescent to be having children in this world, but he's a fine example of the idiocy this world has adopted. Children are no longer family, children are numbers.

God ****.
 

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Well, that's that then. Wonder why the folks don't seem to care?
Or why the kid looks like he's 6.
 

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OMG. That dough-faced ***** and an embryo being parents? If they didn't want an abortion, I would literally sneak into someones room at night brandishing a clotheshanger. Ugh. I can't even imagine them having sex.

And If I can't do that, you're hideous.
I ****'n lul'd.

/Wins thread
 

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That poor baby. This is what happens when you don't neuter your kids.
 

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Very sad commentary on society, I expect that these children never received proper sex ed, the boy at least possibly because he was considered too young.

And abstinence only ed doesn't work btw, so don't even bother.


OMG. That dough-faced ***** and an embryo being parents? If they didn't want an abortion, I would literally sneak into someones room at night brandishing a clotheshanger. Ugh. I can't even imagine them having sex.

And If I can't do that, you're hideous.
No dude, THAT'S hideous. Forced abortions, especially coat-hanger abortions, are brutal and a gross violation of human rights.

While it's obvious that they shouldn't be having unprotected sex, nobody has the right to force them to have an abortion.

****it. People shouldn't be having so many children as it is.
In Brittan?

While it's idiotic at this age, stage 3 nations, aka developed nations are characterized by extreme drops in birth rates.

For example, in the US, if it weren't for immigrants, and their practices, our growth rate would be negative, not positive. Brittan has about a 4th of our population growth rate, and less then a third less of a net migration rate, so I very strongly suspect their story is the same.


There's no advantage in having kids anyone so we're fast approaching the point where maintaining population is going to be a tremendous chore. If the entire world becomes stage 3, they'll be no source of population immigration and our growth for he world will be negative.

For reference, to maintain a population, not including immigration, each women has to have an average of 2.3 children. UK is 1.6...

btw

Stage 1: Pre-industrial nation (think medieval Europe): High birth rate and death rate due to lack of medical care and significant advantages for large families in farming and caring for you in old age.

Stage 2: Developing industrial nation (think US 1900s): High birth rate and relatively low death rate due to advances in medical care. Still needs kids for old age, plus social inertia and generally lax child labor laws and lack of need for post-education (which is expensive) results in population explosioh compared to stage 1.

Stage 3: Developed Nation (think current US): Sharply declining birth rate and death rate, medicinal advances result in few deaths and social inventions such as pensions and social security remove the need for large families in old age to care for their parents. Children become incredibly expensive (especially because of need for post-education). Children become a luxury, and this overall results in a graying population. Japan with it's negative population growth rate (it heavily discourages immigration) and steadily aging population especially illustrates this.


So we need MORE kids in developed nations, and less in developing nations. As this becomes a bigger problem expect governments to implement policies that encourage kids.
 

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There are more stages than you listed (Post-Industrial is actually closer to Stage 5), but the general idea is correct.
However, it still doesn't make me "respect" these kids. No ****ing way! These kids are TOO young to have a child, they appear too naive to host the child, and they won't do **** for that kid, it'll be the grandparents all the way.
 

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There are more stages than you listed (Post-Industrial is actually closer to Stage 5), but the general idea is correct.
However, it still doesn't make me "respect" these kids. No ****ing way! These kids are TOO young to have a child, they appear too naive to host the child, and they won't do **** for that kid, it'll be the grandparents all the way.

I never suggested that. I merely took issue with the idea that people in Brittan in general need to have LESS kids. Brittan needs to have a stable population so when immigration is no longer saving it, it won't implode.



As for my scaling, this is a different type of scaling, it just relates to stages of population growth, and when changes in societal needs causes major shifts in how birth and/or death rates, resulting in major shifts in population growth.

Yeah, in the meta-analysis or different types of population analysis there are plenty of other ways to classify the stage of a country. But since I'm only concerned with population growth rates I chose the scale which conveys the information I wanted without drowning people in minutia. Plus that scale measures exactly what I was talking about, unlike having to derive population growth rates.

That post was long enough anyway, I had no desire to toss a more complex scale in then necessary to explain what I was trying to.
 

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Even sadder, this girl at my cousin's school, she's pregnant. Guess how old she is? 12.
 

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That's terrible....and disturbing.

Thankfully there are some things called contraceptives that help prevent these things from happening in my relationship >_>
 

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I'm assuming it's harder for a 12 year old to get condoms.

But anyway, what with all the money they're getting from the press for this, it seems that having a kid wasn't such a bad idea for them.
 

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Well even if it's harder for a 12 year old to get a pack, it's probably much easier than having to raise a kid.
 

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No actually it's not hard for a boy of 12/13 to get condoms at all in Britain. Walk into chemist, take condom of shelf, buy, ????, profit. Go to sex clinic, ask for free condoms, get free condoms of the right size (XS in this tyke's case), ????, profit.

Safe sex is encouraged rather than unsafe sex. Think about it, if they wanna do it, they're gonna do it. So, at least make sure that no complications like this occur. The main problem with condoms are perhaps some urban legends about a girl getting a condom stuck in her and it killing her ROFL.

WEAR A CONDOM AT ALL TIMES! :mad: (Unless you're married)
 

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Actually...wear a condom at all times unless you want to get someone pregnant, get pregnant, or contract an exotic disease.
 

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No actually it's not hard for a boy of 12/13 to get condoms at all in Britain. Walk into chemist, take condom of shelf, buy, ????, profit. Go to sex clinic, ask for free condoms, get free condoms of the right size (XS in this tyke's case), ????, profit.
Yeah but most kids don't have the bottle to walk into a chemist and do that.
 

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Wow that kid really does look like he's 8. I can't believe he's having sex at 13.
 
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