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Stop this immediately.Believe it or not, Doc's u.smash trades with or beats a lot of Jiggs aerials. It also tacks on a lot of percent and can kill her at reasonably low percents.
I find running u.smash in conjunction with pill baiting to be really effective vs Jiggles.
Thanks for the idea of ratios. And you're right d-tilt isn't useless in every match. It's been a while since I've read through this guide again and seen what I could add to it. Dtilt is actually helpful vs. Ganon/CF, Spacies, etc. to help setup for gimps.Great guide, very thorough, although I don't think you need to say that Dtilt is a useless move in every matchup.
Why don't you add matchup ratios? I'm not a fan of hard numbers, but a relative approximation as to how Doc does vs. certain characters would be helpful. I'm a Falco main who secondaries Doc, and it'd be nice to know what matchups in particular are worth learning.
Pichu's whole game is pretty much just trying to gimp you. His edgeguarding isn't bad. What I've noticed is that a lot of pichu's standard edgeguard stuff (tilts and things) won't work sometimes because of Doc's silly upB hitbox, but when he is at low percent he can CC dtilt -> crap. so you should watch out for that (the one time that you actually play against a pichu).And because Pichu has a good recovery, he also has a decent edgeguard vs Doc. If you haven’t understood this yet, understand that Doc’s recovery is terrible, so he doesn’t get ANYTHING free. Even though it’s Pichu, in the event that you wind up off the stage, you can’t be predictable.
Pills aren’t failproof, he can nair through them. You can’t take the low road all times, you’re liable to get thunder jolted, and heaven forbid if you don’t want to sweetspot. That’s asking for F.smash and thunder.
this is true, but you won't get a free cape if the Pichu is smart at all (Unless its Battlefield). Pichu can do the first part of his agility (so that it falls short of the ledge), then slightly angle the second and it will flip him up into the ledge (I believe that this won't work for pika though). But you can pull some stupid stuff on Battlefield and Pichu will have a little more trouble gimping you there, however he is mobile as hell on BF, so the matchup kinda depends on how the Pichu plays.Pichu’s Quick Attack: Same applies for Pikachu. When Pichu does quick attack, at the point where he can input a 2nd command, he scrunches up (to do the 2nd attack). During this time, his hitbox stretches to double the length. Because of this, Pichu cannot sweetspot the ledge from below, because he’s scrunch and poke his head over it. Caping this is free.