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  • Lol will someone please explain why six "just makes sense?"

    I told you already, we take the average charged smash kills from a grab and center the study more on high/top tier (character thing you said).

    We have all kinds of weights in those tiers, there're no outliers.

    How is that disadvantaging low tiers? They're not all lighter than high tiers or anything.

    The last one you posted in the discussion thread.
    Determine average killing percents for charged smashes from grabs (focused more on high/top tiers obviously), calculate average damage per grab (pick whichever way deals the most damage to study as it will be the most abused in this case), and things get odd after this. The number should probably be at least 2 below the amount it takes to kill someone (I haven't really thought this far on it yet as I don't think it matters anyway, I still know what can come afterward) from a grab. This number will be determined based on a debate (among TOs or SBR idc) among intelligent smashers (plzzzz) and tournaments (results and vids together hopefully) will be examined and tweaking can occur in the system as the metagame/skill level of the average player advances.


    Also I don't get your herb thread post.
    Why not use statistical data to set the appropriate number of grabs to use in said tournies to see if it's fair, and work around that data.

    Have the TOs on hand! But yeah, that part seems fair.
    Lol how does tournament results correlate with the number six?

    We have to go by character facts for this.

    How much damage can each grab do on average and what is the best set up one can get from a grab?

    Besides all of that, there are resets to get around the magic number rule.
    Wow, ok I'm seriously done with that.

    Why is 6 a good number? BECAUSE IT'S SOLID AND I SAW IT SOMEWHERE AND SOME PEOPLE SAID IT WAS WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN THAT LOGIC IS FLAWLESS

    (cle)
    Interesting thread.

    Also, I'm done with the HERB discussion thread. I could do more for the banning case, but if I lose to it in tournament, then woo hoo fairness and such. I agree with you that it should be banned though most likely. I mean, Meep doesn't even main ICs and he destroys people by CG'ing them. Much better than his main does/did, and making ICs look simple enough to play as. I also like the way shielding is used (less shield stun/easier powershield) to get the grabs in Brawl that are much easier than melee. I know everyone can't outspace it like marth, and ph00t's speculation that people can figure around it works the other way around too.

    But you see, even if I posted that and more, they would just use personal experience and speculation, rather than concrete facts and tournament/high level results to back their arguments, which is why I always can't argue with NC about much for long anymore.
    Wifi is not totally without skill, and I said he probably wants to get an idea of mine from it.

    Nothing is certain at this point for me. I'm lolonlining.
    I'm playin some....Brawl ladder AiB stuff with Knightmare.

    He might be deciding how good i am i dunno so we'll see.
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