ZGD: Livin by a thread.

[adumbrodeus]

Probably, but honestly I don't see any overarching value in casual play it makes a game something you pick up and stop playing in a few hours/days/weeks, competitive playstyle gives it some lasting value.

 

[Bandit]

I feel like Smashboards is a different dimension than the real world sometimes, lol.

It's like casual play doesn't exist...... and when it does, it's still competitive. ;;

Even in casual play among friends, we were always looking up the button combos or the combos or finishers for our characters. We were still competitve amongst each other, and I can't see playing a game where the ultimate goal isn't to win.

That is to say I do have fun if I don't win (otherwise I would've quit smash a long time ago).

Halo used to be my other passion, and I never played that competitively. In fact, there were times when my friend and were playing online just causing as much trouble as possible (i.e. killing teammates without actually killing your teammates).

 

[KayLo!]

& that proves my point, lol.

There's nothing wrong with it really, I just think it's funny that y'all think in a very minority way but immediately assume everyone else values the same things y'all do.

I mean, when mountain said he didn't like the game for a lack of character selection, his opinion wasn't taken at face value...... it immediately jumped to "disproving" his opinion by saying low number of characters =/= bad game. But for someone who might be playing the game at a casual level (dunno if he is or not, just saying if he does), the number of characters is something that can influence how fun the game is.

The whole time, I was thinking: maybe he just wants a game where he can have some variety, geezus, lol. Let the man complain about it.

 

[Bandit]

Well, in response to your point (and Mountain's) is I always get focused in one or two characters regardless of game. It's always been my gaming preference.

Prepare yourself for old fighter titles...

Mortal Kombat: Sonya
Mortal Kombat II: Rayden (was pissed Sonya was gone)
Street Fighter II: Chun-Li
Killer Instinct: Orchid

Yes, all female characters (it's a recurring theme on the Zelda boards). I would pretty much focus on these characters and I'd get this "Would you please play someone else?" The other person was getting bored, but at the same time, they were also losing most of the time. I'd then get my butt handed to me by them for a few rounds then switch back.

This problem already came up with Smash because I used to refuse to play anyone other than Zelda. I wouldn't even switch to Sheik. Even in friendlies.

In the end, there can be 100 characters or 4, and I will still only play 1 or 2.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

whats a casual play, does that involve being gay to high caliber degrees?

 

[adumbrodeus]

& that proves my point, lol.

There's nothing wrong with it really, I just think it's funny that y'all think in a very minority way but immediately assume everyone else values the same things y'all do.

I mean, when mountain said he didn't like the game for a lack of character selection, his opinion wasn't taken at face value...... it immediately jumped to "disproving" his opinion by saying low number of characters =/= bad game. But for someone who might be playing the game at a casual level (dunno if he is or not, just saying if he does), the number of characters is something that can influence how fun the game is.

The whole time, I was thinking: maybe he just wants a game where he can have some variety, geezus, lol. Let the man complain about it.

It's not so much that it's not a minority opinion, it's just not fair to hold your opponent to standards of what his/her playstyle should be.

 

[KayLo!]

Meh, I'm more so referring to the fact that he got jumped on in the first place.

It's just strange to me that whenever somebody posts an opinion from what might be a non-competitive standpoint, people immediately respond from a competitive one. I'm not bashing anybody, it's just an observation.

Just seems like a lot of tournament goers have lost touch with the idea of casual gaming when the reality is that most people look at you and think the way you play games is retardedly weird. (I mean, we're playing a party game as a competitive fighter. That's ****ing weird.) That's all I'm saying.

Also: my surge protector keeps making this high-pitched noise now. >< It's SO ANNOYING.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Don't judge by me, I'm weird on this lol.


First game I played of N64 I lost due to f-smashing a bomb that spawned into my f-smash (would've killed to).


After that, I was like "that's it", and from then only I basically took a competative mindset for everything I played, scarred me for life.

 

[Bandit]

Well, posting on these Zelda boards do come with a general risk...

Anyway, I can make a reasonable counter argument as to why it happened:

In the end, quality of a game will always be measured by different things and different perspectives. My friend loves Wario Party and I hate it with a passion unless I am drunk but that's a whole other story. I love JRPG's and he refuses to play them. He argues Final Fantasy 6 is the best in the Final Fantasy series, and I argue Final Fantasy 7 was game breaking and the best. He says Call of Duty and I say Halo.

I always take when someone says "you're wrong" to mean "here's why I think I'm right." Most people who post on smashboards don't take the time to write out a meaningful argument for debate. I don't feel he was jumped on so much as "rudely responded to" and the masses shared a viewpoint of the responder.

It'd be the same as if I said Halo is the best FPS ever and someone else said I was wrong and said Doom was and everyone agreed with him.

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Edit: @Adum... it took that to happen? Or is that when you turned the items off?

 

[JigglyZelda003]

so many juicy multiquotes

You call it spamming; I call it effectively playing. Why should a player who is winning matches with only 10 moves ever use more than that? If he isn't predictable or able to be stopped, then why would he use 30-40 moves?

Effective strategy is better than diverse strategy.

Two reasons: it gets predictable after a while, and also it's really, really, really boring.

but we play Zelda and only use like 2 moves 80% of the time D:

even casually i still only use like 7 moves even out of Tekkens ginormous movesets Zafina is the only one who i use more than 10 different actions

When I play for fun, I still try to win.

same here

Competitive play isn't fun?

And honestly, if the other guy wants to play competitive it's very difficult to force them not to... well except in smash, but it's unlikely they'll actually be willing to play with all items on high, hyrule only, 4 player Ganon dittos.

Sweet, I knew I wasn't the only person with training partners like that.

if i know the whole group is casual and its not my Wii i'll leave all the items and w/e on. casually on mines i have the items off but go pretty much any stage except those giant caves and mario bros.

I feel like Smashboards is a different dimension than the real world sometimes, lol.

It's like casual play doesn't exist...... and when it does, it's still competitive. ;;

i thought i was the only one who thought this, glad im not lol

i like to think myself as casual competetive, since i can never make it to tourneys, but i like to learn the competetive way of play cause i find it more fun that way.

@bandit
but Daisy/Birdo party is so much fun D:

lol

 

[Bandit]

@Jiggly

1st - Crazy multi-quote skills!
2nd - Noooooo... a party game like that just loses its novelty after the first 10 minutes. Wii Sports and successor are a successful party game through the simplicity of the actions but the competitive nature of the games. You don't have to be "skilled" to win, but it is still competitive and fun. Nothing like jousting! (and I own bowling )

 

[JigglyZelda003]

@bandit
ya it really does lol.

my boyfriend probably doesn't like playing the board game with me anymore cause he says i get all *****y and stuff. but hey, its a competition

I win at golf cause no one else stands playing it except me. bowling doesn't like me, it never gives me strikes

i haven't tried the sucessor yet, but i want to

 

[Bandit]

The sports resort is really good. Bowling is easier (unfortunately) but it has a game mode where you bowl a normal game except instead of 10 pins it is 100. That is great to play in teams.

The jousting is is on that game. They have frisbee golf on there which I like (and subsequently fail at). They do have ping pong which I assumed the crown with my friends. They actually refuse to play that anymore with me.

 

[KayLo!]

JZ, why is the J in your sig backwards?

Just curious. o.o

 

[Bandit]

Welcome Back Crashboards!!

POST #1300

 

[mountain_tiger]

& that proves my point, lol.

There's nothing wrong with it really, I just think it's funny that y'all think in a very minority way but immediately assume everyone else values the same things y'all do.

I mean, when mountain said he didn't like the game for a lack of character selection, his opinion wasn't taken at face value...... it immediately jumped to "disproving" his opinion by saying low number of characters =/= bad game. But for someone who might be playing the game at a casual level (dunno if he is or not, just saying if he does), the number of characters is something that can influence how fun the game is.

The whole time, I was thinking: maybe he just wants a game where he can have some variety, geezus, lol. Let the man complain about it.

Well, I don't intend on entering any tourneys any time soon, so I guess that would put me more on the casual 'just have fun' end rather than aiming to the best of the best. Having more characters just seems... comforting somehow. Like, if you get bored of a character, you have plenty of others to choose from, but if you only have 12 or so you may find you're soon bored of all of them...

but we play Zelda and only use like 2 moves 80% of the time D:

even casually i still only use like 7 moves even out of Tekkens ginormous movesets Zafina is the only one who i use more than 10 different actions

Brawl is different. It's more based around mobility, so having less moves isn't such a big issue. Whereas in the Tekken series characters can only jump once, fall like rocks compared to Brawl characters, are basically in constant helpless mode if launched, running backwards doesn't work etc. etc.

I tried Zafina out, but she's too unsafe to really enjoy playing as. So I'm sticking with Alisa, Anna, Nina and Lili at the moment. The funny thing is that around a quarter of people online are so poor I could literally use nothing but Alisa's db+3 to destroy them since they don't realise that you can block low or low crush or sidestep or parry...

 

[Espy Rose]

possible, however unlikely

Clever cover up, baby <3

Prepare yourself for old fighter titles...

Mortal Kombat: Sonya
Mortal Kombat II: Rayden (was pissed Sonya was gone)
Street Fighter II: Chun-Li
Killer Instinct: Orchid

We should all list the fighters we've played growing up, and who we played in them!!

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And as for the argument above: We are on a competitive video game forum, silly Kloz. Expect it.

I love playing casuals just as much as competitive friendlies. Last tournament, we played a bunch of games in Special Brawl.

Shenanigans galore.

 

[KayLo!]

We tried to play casual Special Brawl friendlies with Vex at Pound 4, but he knew all these combos and infinites and ****.

In Giant Metal 300% Low Gravity bull**** Brawl.

Totally killed it. ;;

 

[Kataefi]

Right. I need to know this!!! HOW DO YOU MULTIQUOTE? I click it and the box highlights and then I'm like... "what now?"
_____

Previous fighters:

Any Street Fighter: Dhalsim ALWAYS followed by possibly Rose in SSF4 because the new ultra actually looks really useful!
Tekkens: wang / xiayou / nina / it changes a lot depending on who I get bored with. I used Zafina in Tekken 6 but then realised she was a lot simpler than I gave her credit for and then got bored.
MvC/2: Blackheart/Shuma Gorath
Mortal Kombat: SUB ZERO! I liked the half-man/centaur guy as well. I haven't played any of the newer ones.
Bomberman World: I know it's not a fighter but I hold this dear to my heart - I always use the king and, seriously... I have a perfect win record. BEAT THAT

Spoiler

l-o-l?

I don't really play any other fighter

 

[KayLo!]

Right. I need to know this!!! HOW DO YOU MULTIQUOTE? I click it and the box highlights and then I'm like... "what now?"

Kata........ lolol.

You hit all the multiquote boxes for the posts you wanna quote, then either a) hit "Quote" for the last post, or b) hit "Add Reply".

If all your multiquotes are from the same thread, they'll pop up automatically in the Advanced Editor box. If you have multiquotes from a different thread, there'll be two links right underneath the editor asking if you wanna quote those too or deselect them.

 

[Kataefi]

I can't believe this

>_______>

edit for clarity:- this is going to make mafia posting among other things so much easier. now I don't have to press the quote box... go to another page... copy and paste... press back... rinse and repeat!

 

[KayLo!]

Mods being extra slow lately.

 

[Kataefi]

Thankyou for your pot contribution, yet again, kAyLo!

 

[KayLo!]

God****itall.

 

[mountain_tiger]

Thankyou for your pot contribution, yet again, kAyLo!

Thank you for your mum's pot contribution... because that's all she's good for... using pots to cook.... because she eats so much that you need three bus trips to get on her good side.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

JZ, why is the J in your sig backwards?

Just curious. o.o

Its part of the design. i wanted to enclose Zelda and i had to reverse the J to do that.

Welcome Back Crashboards!!

POST #1300

tried to get me during my multiquote earlier. i </3 crashboards

Well, I don't intend on entering any tourneys any time soon, so I guess that would put me more on the casual 'just have fun' end rather than aiming to the best of the best. Having more characters just seems... comforting somehow. Like, if you get bored of a character, you have plenty of others to choose from, but if you only have 12 or so you may find you're soon bored of all of them...

i used to have a ton of favs in fighters, but i guess over time i've cut down on how many i have subconsciously. SC is the only one where i still play as alot of the cast and thats cause my CAW all have different weapons.

Brawl is different. It's more based around mobility, so having less moves isn't such a big issue. Whereas in the Tekken series characters can only jump once, fall like rocks compared to Brawl characters, are basically in constant helpless mode if launched, running backwards doesn't work etc. etc.

my line at Zelda was more of a joking comparison. it is vastly different from most fighters and i guess thats why i still like it.....

and in tekken backstepping does help unless they are charging at you.

I tried Zafina out, but she's too unsafe to really enjoy playing as. So I'm sticking with Alisa, Anna, Nina and Lili at the moment. The funny thing is that around a quarter of people online are so poor I could literally use nothing but Alisa's db+3 to destroy them since they don't realise that you can block low or low crush or sidestep or parry...

sure she's unsafe as hell, but mixing up well can lead to the most satisfying of frustration groans from your opponent.

We should all list the fighters we've played growing up, and who we played in them!!

orly now?

SF: it was chun-li cause she was female until Rose showed up now its just Rose, Viper, and Balrog for me
Tekken:Anna until Marduk and Zafina, now its all 3 of them
Bloody Roar: Uriko, also Cronos in the GC one and Nagi in 4.
MK: Katana, and i forgot the chicks name from the newer ones, mei lin or something like that. i don't play MK much
Ehergize: Yo yo chick
Bouncer: Dominique and Leeann
VFai until Aoi, now only Aoi

 

[Espy Rose]

We tried to play casual Special Brawl friendlies with Vex at Pound 4, but he knew all these combos and infinites and ****.

In Giant Metal 300% Low Gravity bull**** Brawl.

Totally killed it. ;;

That's because Vex is an ******* :D

It's actually fairly easy to learn and abuse nonsense in FFA with IoH and whatnot. I love playing with Timers on High with Ganondorf. Dair to dair to dair to dair to dair to dair...

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As for fighterzzz...

Mortal Kombat I: Raiden/Sub-Zero
Mortal Kombat II-onward: Sub Zero/Reptile
Street Fighter II-onward: Blanka/Chun Li
Street Fighter III Third Strike: Ibuki
Any WWF/NWO/WCW/etc. Wrestling Game: Undertaker/Hulk Hogan
Primal Rage: Vertigo/Talon
Sonic the Fighters: Sonic
TMNT: Tournament Fighters: Raphael
Tekken 1-onward: King
DBZ Budokai Series: Majin Buu (Fat Buu)
SSB64-Melee: Jigglypuff
SSBB: Sonic
Guilty Gear: Baiken
BlazBlue: Taokaka

There's several other fighters I played, but never really found "mains" for (Virtua Fighter, KoF, Bloody Roar, Darkstalkers, Arcana Hearts, etc).

The only fighting game I still actively play is Brawl though. BlazBlue comes in as a close second though.

I will go back and play me some Primal Rage for pure nostalgia factor. My favorite fighter growing up. <333

<333 Vertigo.

 

[KayLo!]

My list is pretty short......

64: Pikachu
Melee: Pikachu
Brawl: Pikachu/Zelda, although I used Ike as a secondary in the very beginning.

& CONR3: Neji/Kiba

 

[GreyFox86]

So...uh...after lurking for a while...I got lost.

What's going on?

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Sonic had a fighting game? i never played it and i've played like every fighter except melty blood

edit:
KayLo! you play Rev3? we should Wifi sometime

 

[Espy Rose]

Yeah. It played a lot like Virtua Fighter.

Sonic was really good in that one.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

if its like VF it sounds like a game i would enjoy

 

[KayLo!]

@JZ: Sure! I'm pretty sure my copy'll work over wifi..... it's burned, though, so I can only hope. x.x

I think my Kiba's better than my Neji (although I haven't had the chance to play against many people yet......), but <333 Neji so much. Kiba's pretty **** tho.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

Kiba is top tier :3

it should work. at least yours isn't an EU copy right? i hear EU and NA are on different servers

 

[mountain_tiger]

We should all list the fighters we've played growing up, and who we played in them!!

Tekken (every game except Tekken Advance): Used to be Xiaoyu and Jun primarily in TTT, with a bunch of other characters I fought as for laughs. Stuck with Xiaoyu until Tekken 6, and through that time have played Nina, Anna and Asuka mainly. Now I've stuck with Alisa, Anna, Lili and Nina.

Virtua Fighter 4: Didn't like this as much, but when I did try it out I mainly played Aoi and Sarah.

Dead or Alive 2: Ayane and Kasumi.

Soul Calibur 2: Sophitia, Cassandra, Xianghua and Seung Mina.

WWE games: Lots, but my favourite was Stacy Keibler.

 

[KayLo!]

at least yours isn't an EU copy right? i hear EU and NA are on different servers

Yeah, it's a NA copy. I keep forgetting you're in the US..... for some reason, I thought you were one of the European Zeldas.

Is Kiba really that broken? The dude who originally introduced me to the game said he's really, really good, but I haven't looked at the forums yet. He also keeps telling me Hinata's basically a better version of Neji, but I refuuuuse to drop my baby.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

the Dog makes it so you can do w/e you want and your safe. also Kibas X goes super far and negates WUA.

willvo is borderline banning him.

Hinata is better than Neji, but Neji is still pretty scary to face. She pretty much has everything he has but more.

 

[Espy Rose]

If I ever played a Naruto fighter, I'd play as Hinata.

I don't like the show at all, but Hinata was my favorite character when I dropped in to watch several episodes one afternoon several years ago.

 

[KayLo!]

Well if you ever play one, play this one..... I don't think she's ever been this good before, hehe.

I tried playing Naruto, Gaara, and Tenten too, but Tenten is mcgarbgarb (just like she is in the show! -_-), and the other two just didn't feel right.

 

[GreyFox86]

Still lost but it looks like you guys are putting up fighting games. I might have something for that.

SF series: Chun-Li only
KoF: Kula, K, Terry
Tekken 3: Eddie
Tekken 5: Jin
Tekken 6: Alisa
Arcana Heart Full: Lilica, Kira
Arcana Heart 2: Lilica, Kira, Catherine
DBZ Budokai 2: Videl
DBZ Budokai 3: Videl
SSB64: Link
SSBM: Zelda, Link, Ylink, Sheik, Ganon
SSBB: Zelda, Sonic, Snake, Sheik, Falco
BlazBlue: Litchi, Taokaka
Naruto GNT4: Shikamaru, Tsunade, OTKN

I saw talk about Naruto and thought about GNT4.