Zero Suit Samus' Infinite on Diddy Kong

[Zero]

I agree with Norad, Yoshi's is worse, it gives Diddy an easier job controlling the stage, with less platform to avoid it.

 

[Nefarious B]

Why would you ban Yoshi's against Diddy normally? It's a pretty bad stage for him

 

[Zero]

It's pretty trash for us as well.

 

[Nefarious B]

But worth your ban? Over FD? Yoshi's kills diddy's nanner lock and forces him to get into the air to grab his nanners every time he wants to get them again, aka juggle bait. You can shield a nanner and not worry about it falling back on you after. I think this is actually one of our better neutrals for the matchup, preinfinite anyways.

 

[noradseven]

YI vs diddy:
pros:
-trickier to control nanners
-YI edge is gay.
-diddy can't do his nanner lock

cons:

-high cieling diddy has an easier time killing horizontally then us.
-small stage size less room for us to get diddy off us, and harder to find a spot to land without a nanner
-our armor pieces work like **** on this stage
-trickier to control nanners

 

[Dumbfire]

Can't we do this with our suitpieces as well?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

high cieling diddy has an easier time killing horizontally then us.

Could not disagree more here

 

[NickRiddle]

Can't we do this with our suitpieces as well?

If our suitpieces didn't have knockback, we could do it.
We CAN do the footstool > armor, but no infinite.

 

[Nefarious B]

At low to mid percents, footstool->zdrop->aerial would work i think

 

[Dumbfire]

Thats what I mean. More piece mindgames.

 

[Rybaia]

New one on Wario:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Ocft5K4OE

 

[NickRiddle]

New one on Wario:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Ocft5K4OE

wat <3

 

[Adapt]

We need moar infinites!

Rob, Wario, and Diddy are all fairly strong characters. If we could just find an easy guaranteed setup into these we'll be laughing

 

[Chronodiver Lokii]

We need moar infinites!

Rob, Wario, and Diddy are all fairly strong characters. If we could just find an easy guaranteed setup into these we'll be laughing

Amen to that!

We need to find some new shenanigans :3

 

[NickRiddle]

We need moar infinites!

Rob, Wario, and Diddy are all fairly strong characters. If we could just find an easy guaranteed setup into these we'll be laughing

Glide-toss > D-smash on Diddy seems pretty easy.
With Wario, couldn't we GR > footstool?
ROB sucks.

 

[Adapt]

Glide-toss > D-smash on Diddy seems pretty easy.
With Wario, couldn't we GR > footstool?
ROB sucks.

I thought glide-toss>d-smash wasn't quite guaranteed, since a trip supposedly lasts less than 20 frames.
Grabbing a Wario is fairly annoying to do and you can't hold an item while grabbing anyway.

 

[NickRiddle]

I thought glide-toss>d-smash wasn't quite guaranteed, since a trip supposedly lasts less than 20 frames.
Grabbing a Wario is fairly annoying to do and you can't hold an item while grabbing anyway.

I dunno about the frame stuff for the firsto ne.
And... I forgot about that while posting. ^^,
We could always jump > instant Z-catch > footstool...
Dunno if this actually works though.

 

[Kokaloo]

**** yeah xD

 

[ThreeSided]

So hey, in teams, this could work on anyone as long as there's a diddy in the game. Viability?

 

[solecalibur]

So hey, in teams, this could work on anyone as long as there's a diddy in the game. Viability?

So far its work on snake for me


The one time it worked...

 

[earla]

can someone please explain the exact commands + help me out with timing to do this infinite. cheers

 

[Dumbfire]

Down Smash, pick up banana, footstool, down throw on the Diddy, Z catch the banana (when the banan is touching your body, press z to catch it without airdogde) and then throw the banana, Down Smash en repeat..

Setup is Glide Toss > Down Smash.

 

[Zero]

It's actually a little more strict than that, VD.

Downsmash > pick up banana, footstool > throw banana on the LEFT side of Diddy Kong (so that he rolls to the left) > Z catch banana AND throw down at the exact same time OR airdodge catch AND throw down at the exact same time > Downsmash > repeat

 

[zApollo]

I seem to have the hang of this, but without any attempts by the diddy to DI/tech. Will try this with friends to get the timing exact.

EDIT: Would this work with low kb turnips? Or do they disappear during an attempt. I can't think of any other character items that would be valid. The setup would be much more difficult than with diddy however.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I was wondering about the turnip thing too

 

[Dakpo]

i suspect this to be to good to be true, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93MUFDI8oYo
I'm pretty sure people can DI/SDI out of Up B or at least lean left or right....Also they can tech the platform....hopefully they wont react fast enough

 

[Zero]

That was posted quite awhile ago in the GD. But yeah, you can DI out of the upB. You could also do a move out of the falling state after you fall off the platform. It'd be super flashy to pull off in a legit match, but don't expect it to work more than once. Hell, once is all you need to get a sizable advantage and even to win the match.

All ZSS mains should learn this and use it against Diddy.

 

[Justblaze647]

And this is... inescapable?

 

[Zero]

When done properly. Which is quite hard to do.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Diddy actually can't act before hitting the ground when getting knocked off a platform.
THE MORE YOU KNOW

 

[Nefarious B]

Also in that vid the Diddy cannot tech because up b at low percents does not cause tumble. He could still DI to avoid the spike though and up b is really really easy to DI

 

[Zero]

Diddy actually can't act before hitting the ground when getting knocked off a platform.
THE MORE YOU KNOW

wut

Are you sure? I thought that only tall characters had this effect since they're technically touching the ground while they "tumble".

 

[zApollo]

When done properly. Which is quite hard to do.

Ugh yeah, it is really difficult to be consistent with the correct jump height and z-catching, I doubt I'll be able to maintain the rhythm under the stress of a legit match. Do you use c-stick for the nana throws? I find using the control stick and a-button much easier.

 

[Zero]

Yeah I use L + cstick for the instant catch throw.

 

[noradseven]

Ugh yeah, it is really difficult to be consistent with the correct jump height and z-catching, I doubt I'll be able to maintain the rhythm under the stress of a legit match. Do you use c-stick for the nana throws? I find using the control stick and a-button much easier.

Ughh don't make me actually pull out my controller and learn this. Trust me if I can pull off 2 frame tight character specific combos in other games consistently, I can do this.

 

[Zero]

DO IT NORAD DO ITTTTTTTTTTTT

but that means you have to play brawl, eww

 

[SaveMeJebus]

I could play any ZSS main 10 times and I bet 50$ that they would never land the infinite on me

 

[noradseven]

I could play any ZSS main 10 times and I bet 50$ that they would never land the infinite on me

Its because we are lazy *******s, XD. If I still cared I would learn this, I actually feel its useful unlike the ROB one. There is a diddy main I used to play with, and I could of used an extra leg up.