Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

[Macchiato]

I'm actually confident that peach will stay the same or buffed. She's like mid tier in Japan. Many people don't use her on For Glory. I'd be pretty happy if they gave her brawl utilt back. I'd kinda be surprised if she was nerfed.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Zelda having an effortless kill combo still wouldn't make her very good tho

Ok FOR ONCE, I have serious 1.06 predictions for Zelda
- Nair landing lag significantly reduced
- Fixes on people falling out of usmash and fsmash
- Usmash knockback increased

I wish I could say more things, but keeping your expectations low is always good

 

[Alphatron]

Dissidia's competitive scene is definitely there but its pretty tiny. Maybe it will be a thing is the Ps4 Dissidia game winds up being good. No Sabin, no buy though.

@ Lavani a kindred spirit! I subbed Marisa in UNL and SWR too. Too bad Alice isn't in Hopeless Masquerade. But when I get around to playing that, I'm playing as Byakuren due to bias.

I can't seem to find a good Pika avatar. Dammit

 

[|ven|]

Zelda having an effortless kill combo still wouldn't make her very good tho

Ok FOR ONCE, I have serious 1.06 predictions for Zelda
- Nair landing lag significantly reduced
- Fixes on people falling out of usmash and fsmash
- Usmash knockback increased

I wish I could say more things, but keeping your expectations low is always good

I hope they increase the range of upsmash to how they had it in brawl. I feel like the range is a stick

Visual: |

:|

 

[Berserker.]

Wouldn't be surprised if he/she/it was buffed


Wouldn't be surprised if he/she/it was nerfed

 

[Soul.]

Pikachu is ranked lower than usual in Japanese tier lists.
Good, good... #nerfdiddy

Wouldn't be surprised if he/she/it was nerfed

stop making me suffer omg : (

 

[Berserker.]

stop making me suffer omg : (

If he was nerfed, I wouldn't really be *shocked* (ba-dum-tss)

 

[|ven|]

Pikachu is ranked lower than usual in Japanese tier lists.
Good, good... #nerfdiddy

stop making me suffer omg : (

I don't see why they would nerf pikachu o 3o. He seems pretty balanced to me.

 

[Spirst]

I don't see why they would nerf pikachu o 3o. He seems pretty balanced to me.

quick attack
heavy skull bash

 

[Soul.]

April 15th, please come right now so I don't need to suffer with this "nerf" **** omg.

 

[Lavani]

Possibly expect nerfs:
, maybe because japan tier lists

Possibly expect buffs:

Zelda having an effortless kill combo still wouldn't make her very good tho

I have a hard time believing that giving a character a guaranteed kill combo around 60% that's initiated with a lingering low-risk move (remember, nair's lag was reduced in this hypothetical) wouldn't substantially improve the character.

Granted, in certain circumstances she does have dtilt>FW, but her early kills currently take precise sweetspots and hard reads. Letting her just throw out shff nair to confirm elevator kills preserves reward while making the character inherently less risky.

Not saying she'd instantly become S/A tier but giving her a safer aerial that also creates safe kills would definitely bump her up several spots.

Too bad Alice isn't in Hopeless Masquerade. But when I get around to playing that, I'm playing as Byakuren due to bias.

Okay yep you're definitely me.

Also that...Pikarus? Thundachu?...is glorious.

 

[HeroMystic]

Wouldn't be surprised if he/she/it was buffed


Wouldn't be surprised if he/she/it was nerfed

Everyone forgets about Samus.

Lol, you even forgot about naked Samus.

 

[Trieste SP]

Well, It's time for me to go to the lab with Dedede.... let's see what I can find with him and his customs...

 

[UkeNicky]

Ok FOR ONCE, I have serious 1.06 predictions for Zelda
- Nair landing lag significantly reduced
- Fixes on people falling out of usmash and fsmash
- Usmash knockback increased
- NO FREE FALL ON AERIAL DIN'S FIRE

I added like one little thing to your list, I agree though, keep our expectations low ^^

 

[Berserker.]

I don't know how conservative Sakurai is with handling balance changes, but he can't afford to be conservative with Diddy Kong

Everyone forgets about Samus.

Lol, you even forgot about naked Samus.

Thanks for reminding me~ :D

 

[FullMoon]

Okay so we have two Berserkers

@ Lavani is @ Alphatron

And @Pacman9 is me.

Do we have more clones in this social? =V

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Possibly expect nerfs:
, maybe because japan tier lists

Possibly expect buffs:



I have a hard time believing that giving a character a guaranteed kill combo around 60% that's initiated with a lingering low-risk move (remember, nair's lag was reduced in this hypothetical) wouldn't substantially improve the character.

Granted, in certain circumstances she does have dtilt>FW, but her early kills currently take precise sweetspots and hard reads. Letting her just throw out shff nair to confirm elevator kills preserves reward while making the character inherently less risky.

Not saying she'd instantly become S/A tier but giving her a safer aerial that also creates safe kills would definitely bump her up several spots.


Okay yep you're definitely me.

Also that...Pikarus? Thundachu?...is glorious.

Sorry, I didn't word my statement clearly. I basically meant what you said; it'd definitely help her a ton, but she wouldn't be the second coming of MK

I added like one little thing to your list, I agree though, keep our expectations low ^^

IF NO FREE FALL DIN'S HAPPENS I WILL EXPLODE TBH

 

[MasterTrumpet]

idk why but i cant stop playing brawl sheik...

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I need to work on my kirby combos
I can't string utilts/uairs for the life of me

Okay so we have two Berserkers

@ Lavani is @ Alphatron

And @Pacman9 is me.

Do we have more clones in this social? =V

I don't know about you guys but I can't tell @Cenizas and @Cenizas apart

 

[Berserker.]

....

O_O

 

[Soul.]

I dunno, Quick Attack is supposed to be a.... quick move.

I need to work on my kirby combos
I can't string utilts/uairs for the life of me

....

O_O

m o n a n d o b o y s

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Sorry, I didn't word my statement clearly. I basically meant what you said; it'd definitely help her a ton, but she wouldn't be the second coming of MK

IF NO FREE FALL DIN'S HAPPENS I WILL EXPLODE TBH

Sakurai: After using side b, Zelda will no longer free fall.
She will now explode as of update 1.0.6

 

[Macchiato]

Okay so we have two Berserkers

@ Lavani is @ Alphatron

And @Pacman9 is me.

Do we have more clones in this social? =V

@ |ven| would be me if he switched his mains more. Seriously, I think he's more optimistic than I am about Zelda and you guys already think I'm crazy optimistic about her.

 

[MasterTrumpet]

Any tips on finding a permanent main? I feel like i switch someone i want to main every 2 weeks and its really annoying cause i really just wanna sit down with one characer and practice, but they get boring after awhile...

 

[Spirst]

Okay so we have two Berserkers

@ Lavani is @ Alphatron

And @Pacman9 is me.

Do we have more clones in this social? =V

@Reserved is @Cancer

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I dunno, Quick Attack is supposed to be a.... quick move.

m o n a n d o b o y s

I watched that
I know how to Kirby
I just can't consistently

 

[Soul.]

I watched that
I know how to Kirby
I just can't consistently

practic---nvm

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

practic---nvm

Nah you're right
I honestly don't practice LOL

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I don't know how conservative Sakurai is with handling balance changes, but he can't afford to be conservative with Diddy Kong

He probably won't be conservative. I remember when he said Little Mac was well balanced.

Then he took away a lot of damage from his jab and nerfed his recovery even more so.

I think there is a reasonable chance of nerfing diddy kong hard. Granted, this is stil Sakurai we are talking about.

....

O_O

Also, I want it! ;_;

 

[Trieste SP]

@Reserved is @Cancer

Daaaaaaamn....​

 

[Soul.]

Nah you're right
I honestly don't practice LOL

You gotta try them out on Training first, then you keep pra----yeah you know the rest

 

[「 Derk 」]

IF NO FREE FALL DIN'S HAPPENS I WILL EXPLODE TBH

Love jump then b-reversing the momentum with din's fire would be a pretty nifty tool. I want it, but I doubt we will get it. Idk why it free falls in the first place but its been there for 3 games in a row...

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Oh oh oh oh!

What am I guys? Who am I a clone of or who is my clone? : o

 

[berserker00]

Any tips on finding a permanent main? I feel like i switch someone i want to main every 2 weeks and its really annoying cause i really just wanna sit down with one characer and practice, but they get boring after awhile...

Ask @ Macchiato for advice (Been lurking long enough to know this hehe)

 

[Berserker.]

Any tips on finding a permanent main? I feel like i switch someone i want to main every 2 weeks and its really annoying cause i really just wanna sit down with one characer and practice, but they get boring after awhile...

I think I can help with this (I've mained Shulk from day one, secondary Mario/Fox for a long time already)

The MAIN mistake everyone does is they think first about the viability of a character. I suggest you try to think of what playstyle suits you best. After that, you think of what type of fighter you prefer. Do you want to have sword range? Do you want to be a fast-type of character? You want to be a fatty/heavy (Bowser, DK or whatever)? Do you want to be Diddy Kong and ruin my life? After deciding on what type of fighter you'd like, that's when the character viability kicks in. Do you care about your character's viability?

That's about it. Remember, you need to have fun with Smash 4 to actually maximize your experience. Make sure the character you'll use will make your experience fun no matter what. It's like picking a course in college. Make sure that the course fits your preferences, so you'll have fun all the way

 

[|ven|]

@ |ven| would be me if he switched his mains more. Seriously, I think he's more optimistic than I am about Zelda and you guys already think I'm crazy optimistic about her.

Excuse you, I am my own person~​

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Love jump then b-reversing the momentum with din's fire would be a pretty nifty tool. I want it, but I doubt we will get it. Idk why it free falls in the first place but its been there for 3 games in a row...

Woah...that sounds awesome. That might actually make Din's useful for mixups if the freefall ever gets taken away

Idk why it even goes into freefall. Probably because Sakurai thinks it's an OMG SO OP! move in free for alls and it needs some sort of weakness

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Clones?
I'm unique

 

[Ffamran]

Why does the patch feel like its taking forever to get here ugh.

'Cause we know about it and that makes waiting hell. If we didn't know about it and it suddenly happened, then it would seem faster. It's like traveling to a place and feeling like it's taking forever, but when you travel back, it feels like a short trip.

 

[Deleted member]

Any tips on finding a permanent main? I feel like i switch someone i want to main every 2 weeks and its really annoying cause i really just wanna sit down with one characer and practice, but they get boring after awhile...

Hey.....YOU'RE NOT MACCHIATO...