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Alphatron

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Dedede is pretty bad and I can see him being low. But its hard for me to see him being worse than charizard. I mean...his jab is punishable on hit vs. grounded opponents. And Charizard is a straight up punish character. The safer your opponent is / plays, the worse he's gonna be.

I remember when that Denti vs Trela match first went up on youtube and people were saying that Charizard wasn't that bad. But since then, it's been downhill from there.
 

FullMoon

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So I just had a match with a good MK today in the ladder so I could have a taste of the MU.

... Unfortunately the matches lagged like hell and we were both playing characters that suck in lag.
 

Rizen

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I wouldn't say Dedede's fat but every iceberg he's rode has been no more than 5% visible above the surface!
 

Alphatron

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Dedede just knows how to handle his weight. Have you seen that guy grind rails in Kirby's Air Ride? He clearly knows what he's doing.

dear god Zelda's customs are bad.... How do you even use Windfall??
You don't. Unless someone's been in the lab and can tell me something I don't know. Apparently, Rejection isn't as bad as I thought it was. But Nayru's Passion is still a terribad move.

Dedede is "bad", but who ****ing cares. Main him if you want to.
I still use Ninetales in 6th gen pokemon battles so I'm familiar with toughing it out with the underdogs. Still, it is a little distressing when you end up getting attached to an unfortunate character in most of the games you play. Glad I like Exdeath and Kuja in Dissidia. Same for Alice in all those touhou fighting games.
 

Soul.

 
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Dedede just knows how to handle his weight. Have you seen that guy grind rails in Kirby's Air Ride? He clearly knows what he's doing.



You don't. Unless someone's been in the lab and can tell me something I don't know. Apparently, Rejection isn't as bad as I thought it was. But Nayru's Passion is still a terribad move.



I still use Ninetales in 6th gen pokemon battles so I'm familiar with toughing it out with the underdogs. Still, it is a little distressing when you end up getting attached to an unfortunate character in most of the games you play. Glad I like Exdeath and Kuja in Dissidia. Same for Alice in all those touhou fighting games.
Dissidia is competitive? Eh... I mean it's fine to use Ninetales in Gen 6, but then again, lolgen6
 

Lavani

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I still use Ninetales in 6th gen pokemon battles so I'm familiar with toughing it out with the underdogs. Same for Alice in all those touhou fighting games.
are you me

Okay so technically I mained Patchouli in IaMP and Sanae in Soku, but I mained Alice in SWR and subbed her in the other two!
 

FullMoon

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I always used Alice in the fighting games because Alice was the best character until Miko came into existance.

And it just happened that once Miko was introduced she got into the next fighting game and Alice was cut =V
 

Lavani

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Speaking of Peach... sort of, but does Ganondorf have I-frames during his Side Smash or did Peach's Dash Attack just end right when Ganondorf Side Smash her? Bizzarro Flame bulldozed through Vanish's Dash Attack with it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HvmP9E5FS8c#t=36. I'm going to assume the Dash Attack ended.
Poor timing on the Peach's part, she got to him with her dash attack between the first and second hit; there's no hitbox out 10-16f.

Why does the patch feel like its taking forever to get here ugh.
mewtwo
 

Trieste SP

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All this talk about how bad Dedede is has convinced my of picking him up as my third main. Thanks for all the input guys !
 

Lavani

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Nice thing about :4dedede: is he's really good in lag at least

I remember when the Dedede boards (myself included, admittedly) thought he had an even MU with Sheik.
 

Lavani

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oh hey SPEAKING OF ZELDA

It dawned on me while labbing stuff with her earlier that her nair's landing lag is so stupidly high because if it were lower, landing nair>FW would give her an effortless kill combo.

Also we bash her smashes a ton here but I think I don't use fsmash/dsmash enough. Usmash honestly seems pretty cool for trapping airdodges too tbh.
 

「 Derk 」

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I'm honestly fearing a Farore's Wind nurf. It kills at like 40-50% with rage. Don't nurf our only good move Sakurai :cry:
 

|ven|

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oh hey SPEAKING OF ZELDA

It dawned on me while labbing stuff with her earlier that her nair's landing lag is so stupidly high because if it were lower, landing nair>FW would give her an effortless kill combo.

Also we bash her smashes a ton here but I think I don't use fsmash/dsmash enough. Usmash honestly seems pretty cool for trapping airdodges too tbh.
I usually Nyaru's love after Nair to recover faster. It works but it's risky BUT certainly better than a lot of landing lag
 
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