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[Soul.]

Wii Fit still has major flaws even with customs lol

 

[Unknownkid]

@ HeroMystic I finished reading your analysis on Mario vs Sonic. Maybe I am reading it wrong but are you implying with Custom Moves On, it more in Mario's favor? Is Scalding FLUDD transcendent? Because I am failing to see how Mario's Specials can beat Burning Spin Dash.

Unless Sonic spin dash jump (which he to if you hold shield) and you punish him with Up B... I think I answer my own question.

 

[HeroMystic]

Is Scalding FLUDD transcendent?

Yes.

 

[Lavani]

@ HeroMystic I finished reading your analysis on Mario vs Sonic. Maybe I am reading it wrong but are you implying with Custom Moves On, it more in Mario's favor? Is Scalding FLUDD transcendent? Because I am failing to see how Mario's Specials can beat Burning Spin Dash.

Unless Sonic spin dash jump (which he to if you hold shield) and you punish him with Up B... I think I answer my own question.

Scalding FLUDD is transcendent, so it can't hit Sonic during Burning Spin Dash. (Fast) Fireballs will clank it and put Sonic in endlag like when he hits a shield, though.

 

[UkeNicky]

Have any of you seen these creepy character models?

I took the liberty of captioning this one because I can, and it made it automatically raid material.

Also *points to my avatar*

 

[Unknownkid]

Scalding FLUDD is transcendent, so it can't hit Sonic during Burning Spin Dash. (Fast) Fireballs will clank it and put Sonic in endlag like when he hits a shield, though.

Actually... it can. Burning Spin Dash lose to transcendent moves/projectile. So thinks like Megaman's Fsmash can stop it. Wait... FireBalls are transcendent? How does Fireball clank it?

 

[Soul.]

lol the CCI thread.
"there are 2601 matchups in this game"
"or, you could.... you know.... play the game"
"match-up charts are simply impossible to make work right"
"I dislike breaking tier lists in S, A, B, C, etc"
"-insert definition of viable-"

 

[Lavani]

Actually... it can. Burning Spin Dash lose to transcendent moves/projectile. So thinks like Megaman's Fsmash can stop it. Wait... FireBalls are transcendent? How does Fireball clank it?

You have it backwards, Sonic's intangible during Burning Spin Dash, but the attack can clank with things. Since transcendent attacks can't clank the spin dash and can't hit him, he can blast through them (Smart Bomb, Scalding FLUDD, etc). Projectiles that aren't transcendent like Fireballs can't hit Sonic either, but will clank the attack out and force him to stop.

EDIT: Though Fast Fireballs only work if BSD isn't charged, so I guess there's that to consider.

EDIT2: Needles, Shifting Shuriken, and Megaman's fsmash all go through it too without clanking or hitting Sonic, by the by. Megaman can stop it with lemons, though.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

@Reserved pls
Edit: bruh

 

[Soul.]

@Reserved pls
Edit: bruh

inb4 sad kirby image

 

[Lavani]

When Zelda's recovery decides to make a u turn around the bOTTOM OF THE STAGE AND SHE DIES

I hate when warping moves screw with the edge of the stage and send me sideways

Like that's definitely how you recover thanks game

y'all need a better teleport

 

[Soul.]

Anyone wanna play on 3DS?

 

[Ffamran]

lol hey its a tier list

*sees Falco in low tier... again*

For those of you who knows where this gif is from, you can use it for your waifu wars too. That's my BULMAAAAAAAA!

 

[Cenizas]

Anyone wanna play on 3DS?

I'll play you gorl.

 

[FullMoon]

Hello friends! How is everyone today?

I'm so tired I left college early because otherwise I would just fall asleep in class so might as well fall asleep on a bed instead.

 

[Macchiato]

Time to use Cancer Cresent Slash

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I've been taking an interest in mii gunner recently. Not going to drop any characters for her, but it is a nice for fun character.

Granted, if mii gunner actually gives me better match ups against characters Rosalina has problems with unlike Villager, I might consider her a secondary.

 

[Soul.]

@ Cenizas tag me when you're ready

 

[Lavani]

The other thing that breaks my heart about teleport recoveries is when you hit the ledge above the ledgegrab section:

I mean, it worked here because the CPU was being dumb, but it's just one big "hit me" sign.

*sees Falco in low tier... again*

For those of you who knows where this gif is from, you can use it for your waifu wars too. That's my BULMAAAAAAAA!

is this really surprising

I mean I see you typing walls about how bad falco is more than I see swordfighters or lucinas complaining about their character

 

[FullMoon]

lol hey its a tier list

Well I would say that Greninja is slightly lacking myself, but wtf why aren't Pac-Man and Duck Hunt there either in a no-customs list when they both some real trouble killing? And how is Greninja still in the same place with customs on when he gets a kill confirm out of a transcedent projectile?

... Eh. I'm not going to bother with tier lists anymore, not just pre-patch lists either.

 

[Cenizas]

@ Soul. ready sis

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

>me playing Ike, Pac-man, Peach, and Lucario

GGs @Reserved and @ Spirst
Those were fun

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

is this really surprising

I mean I see you typing walls about how bad falco is more than I see swordfighters or lucinas complaining about their character

Lucina's are busy saying Lucina is not a worse Marth. ;D

 

[Ffamran]

is this really surprising

I mean I see you typing walls about how bad falco is more than I see swordfighters or lucinas complaining about their character

But complaining is fun!

 

[Berserker.]

Opinions are opinions, I guess. I agree with Shulk being at B though

 

[Lavani]

meanwhile

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

meanwhile

Spoiler

As mean as it is, I couldn't date someone who isn't attractive or at least appealing to look at. >.>

 

[Rizen]

Lucina's are busy saying Lucina is not a worse Marth. ;D

Link?

 

[Ffamran]

Maybe I'm going through the 5 stages of grief... Hmm, I was in denial that Falco was bad, I became enraged at people calling Falco garbage and mained him, I don't remember what I bargained for, so let's say becoming a Falco mod was the result, and depression which probably happened after delving into Falco's frame data and comparing him to past games. So, that leaves acceptance... No wait, I'm still angry.

Also, I don't remember this scene from DBZ.

 

[SpiralGalaxies]

Link?

I don't have a link. It was intended as a joke.

 

[Soul.]

ok so idk wtf happened. thing was going well but then suddenly player 2 drops out.
This game's wifi is hilarious

 

[evmaxy54]

Spoiler

As mean as it is, I couldn't date someone who isn't attractive or at least appealing to look at. >.>

Not surprising, it's only natural that we're attracted to people who are physically appealing anyways.

 

[Nu~]

Well I would say that Greninja is slightly lacking myself, but wtf why aren't Pac-Man and Duck Hunt there either in a no-customs list when they both some real trouble killing? And how is Greninja still in the same place with customs on when he gets a kill confirm out of a transcedent projectile?

... Eh. I'm not going to bother with tier lists anymore, not just pre-patch lists either.

While I can't speak for Duck Hunt, the Pac-Man thread and I have found many kill confirms for Pac-Man with customs off.

Hydrant drop->Key
Throw melon up-> trampoline
Z drop Key -> Trampoline
Galaxian kill combos

Not surprising, it's only natural that we're attracted to people who are physically appealing anyways.

Physical attractiveness will get people together initially (because we're sexual creatures)
But it's the chemistry between people that acts as the glue to keep them together

 

[Berserker.]

Tournament is today, but I have some college johns to attend to

 

[FullMoon]

While I can't speak for Duck Hunt, the Pac-Man thread and I have found many kill confirms for Pac-Man with customs off.

Hydrant drop->Key
Throw melon up-> trampoline
Z drop Key -> Trampoline
Galaxian kill combos

Okay the Galaxian things are cool but I'm pretty sure pulling that stuff out in a real match is not going to be easy unless the opponent messes up like the ZSS did, if she had jumped instead of airdodged she wouldn't be killed so it's kinda like something that really only works once like Greninja's D-Throw -> Shadow Sneak. It's not exactly a kill confirm as it's not a true combo like say, Greninja's N-Air -> Up-Smash or Shifting Shuriken -> Up-Smash

The Hydrant combo I can believe.

You can throw the fruit up? And wait the trampoline kills?

 

[Lavani]

Went for a walk in the nearby woods

saw a hawk kill a squirrel and eat its leg

damn_nature_you_scary.avi

 

[Nu~]

Okay the Galaxian things are cool but I'm pretty sure pulling that stuff out in a real match is not going to be easy unless the opponent messes up like the ZSS did, if she had jumped instead of airdodged she wouldn't be killed so it's kinda like something that really only works once like Greninja's D-Throw -> Shadow Sneak. It's not exactly a kill confirm as it's not a true combo like say, Greninja's N-Air -> Up-Smash or Shifting Shuriken -> Up-Smash

The Hydrant combo I can believe.

You can throw the fruit up? And wait the trampoline kills?

The galaxian combos do work even with DI, just at specific percentages. That one with ZSS was the only non guaranteed one.

If you catch a fruit so that it is Z droppable, you can throw it up. If your opponent is right next to you, you can trampoline them into the melon or key for a kill

 

[Berserker.]

I saw a cat eat a bird's head off when I was on vacation ._.

 

[Rizen]

Went for a walk in the nearby woods

saw a hawk kill a squirrel and eat its leg

damn_nature_you_scary.avi

Nature can be cruel. I was walking home one night and saw what I thought was a pile of trash, it was dark out. It ended up being a dead dear. That was startling. :/

 

[Spirst]

Without customs, there is no way I would ever put Greninja below Duck Hunt. I've played both extensively and Duck Hunt has more issues than Greninja does. Duck Hunt is susceptible to edgeguarding, has broken smashes (must be Zelda's dog), and a real problem ending stocks. His frame data is pretty average and his mobility is overall a bit above average (and Greninja's is better). To even suggest Duck Hunt>Greninja in customs off is downright dumb. With customs on, Greninja gets shifting shuriken for KO confirms into his relatively hard-hitting moves and Duck Hunt gets the various gunmen (one good for tanking other projectiles and the other being a good anti-rushdown), and the Zigzag can which can combo into things like Nair for a KO or can combo into itself and do like 30% while also protecting Duck Hunt from pressure. The clay pigeon customs kind of suck overall and the Duck Jump ones are meh in my opinion. Even with this, I wouldn't put Duck Hunt above Greninja in the customs metagame since he's still quite flawed overall. I think people are just blinded by MVD doing well at Apex (not to rag on his play but a lot of people just don't know what to do with DH so the element of surprise was strong) and just don't really know the character on a deeper level.

I'd go on about Pacman but that's why my trusty Pacman nerd friend Pacman9 is here to do it for me.