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[Berserker.]

Macchiato doesn't switch every 2 weeks

He switches every single day

 

[berserker00]

I think I can help with this (I've mained Shulk from day one, secondary Mario/Fox for a long time already)

Didn't you just tell me yesterday that you were the @Macchiato of second mains? What happened to your other second mains like Diddy Kong

 

[Trieste SP]

Macchiato doesn't switch every 2 weeks

He switches every single day

Cut him some slack, he just have trouble choosing one.

@Macchiato you might as well main everyone you wanted to use like Zelda, Lucina, GnW, WiiFit, etc...

 

[Deleted member]

Macchiato doesn't switch every 2 weeks

He switches every single day

 

[Berserker.]

Didn't you just tell me yesterday that you were the @Macchiato of second mains? What happened to your other second mains like Diddy Kong

I still have him in my pockets

I've been using Diddy more frequently than usual, since it's my last days with the character

 

[Lavani]

I keep thinking @ berserker00 is @ Berserker.

"okay he has numbers, he's the original"

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Anyone want to play

 

[Berserker.]

I keep thinking @ berserker00 is @ Berserker.

"okay he has numbers, he's the original"

#adapt

 

[Antonykun]

Does he, now?

While Luigi's aerial mobility is super ****ty, yeah, he's actually surprisingly fast on the ground. Also, his fireball spam makes it awkward to even zone him. He doesn't have as much difficulty with zoning as you'd think.

Wow I completely forgot Luigi is a walking "lol damage" button >.> uhhh I despise "lol damage" buttons
Also more footage of Villager doing much better rushing down than zoning...
I may have to reevaluate my opinions on her.

 

[Ffamran]

@Reserved is @Cancer

Aww, if only there was a @Cancer or @polio, but we have a Canceris and EBoLA_.

 

[MasterTrumpet]

Ask @Macchiato for advice (Been lurking long enough to know this hehe)

I think I can help with this (I've mained Shulk from day one, secondary Mario/Fox for a long time already)

The MAIN mistake everyone does is they think first about the viability of a character. I suggest you try to think of what playstyle suits you best. After that, you think of what type of fighter you prefer. Do you want to have sword range? Do you want to be a fast-type of character? You want to be a fatty/heavy (Bowser, DK or whatever)? Do you want to be Diddy Kong and ruin my life? After deciding on what type of fighter you'd like, that's when the character viability kicks in. Do you care about your character's viability?

That's about it. Remember, you need to have fun with Smash 4 to actually maximize your experience. Make sure the character you'll use will make your experience fun no matter what. It's like picking a course in college. Make sure that the course fits your preferences, so you'll have fun all the way

Thanks for the advice, It will be put to good use :D. Sorry for the low reply time...

 

[Lavani]

#adapt

how about no

 

[berserker00]

#adapt

#namenerfed

 

[Berserker.]

how about no

Lol dat sass

 

[Ffamran]

I just realized that @ berserker00 's NNID is Berserker10... I wonder what @ Berserker. 's NNID is?

 

[Lavani]

Lol dat sass

 

[Berserker.]

I just realized that @ berserker00 's NNID is Berserker10... I wonder what @ Berserker. 's NNID is?

Er.... The same?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'm gonna go to bed, goodnight guys.
Remember, O N L Y 5 (or 4 depending on your timezone) M O R E D A Y S

H Y P E

 

[|ven|]

I'm gonna go to bed, goodnight guys.
Remember, O N L Y 5 (or 4 depending on your timezone) M O R E D A Y S

H Y P E

​

 

[Ffamran]

Er.... The same?

Really? So, your brother doesn't have a separate NNID? Do you two run under the same tags while competing?! ARE YOU TWO ACTUALLY CLONES!?

 

[berserker00]

Thanks for the advice, It will be put to good use :D. Sorry for the low reply time...

The Macchiato thing was a joke since it's an ongoing gag that he switches mains 24/7 btw HAHA.

I ended up being a Link main nearly my entire Smash career (throughout all the games except PM and Melee where he was a 2nd main) since I loved the Zelda games and I was a huge fan of Link. Picking a character you really like or you're a big fan of is a great way to find a permanent main throughout most games (I even stuck to Link in Brawl LOL). If you want to pick a permanent character for the specific game, try out most characters first and see whose playstyle you have fun with the most. After playing Sm4sh and taking on and dropping like 23 second mains, I've learned to realize that the amount of fun you have with the character really affects how you play.

Really? So, your brother doesn't have a separate NNID? Do you two run under the same tags while competing?! ARE YOU TWO ACTUALLY CLONES!?

Pls I'm the original

 

[Ffamran]

The Macchiato thing was a joke since it's an ongoing gag that he switches mains 24/7 btw HAHA.

I ended up being a Link main nearly my entire Smash career (throughout all the games except PM and Melee where he was a 2nd main) since I loved the Zelda games and I was a huge fan of Link. Picking a character you really like or you're a big fan of is a great way to find a permanent main throughout most games (I even stuck to Link in Brawl LOL). If you want to pick a permanent character for the specific game, try out most characters first and see whose playstyle you have fun with the most. After playing Sm4sh and taking on and dropping like 23 second mains, I've learned to realize that the amount of fun you have with the character really affects how you play.

Or be like me and main someone out of pure rage and hatred.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with nor do I condone the actions and wanton destruction and corruption the Sith does.

 

[berserker00]

Or be like me and main someone out of pure rage and hatred.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with nor do I condone the actions and wanton destruction and corruption the Sith does.

Palpatine for DLC

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I will never get to the appeal of wanting Dreamland 64 for smash 4. Especially when we will already essentially have two battlefields in the coming days.

I mean, thats all it is. Battlefield with a slight wind effect. I've been told that people love it because the music, but they could always add it to the superior stage choice of Fountain of dreams, which at least has platforms that behave a little uniquely.

 

[MasterTrumpet]

The Macchiato thing was a joke since it's an ongoing gag that he switches mains 24/7 btw HAHA.

I ended up being a Link main nearly my entire Smash career (throughout all the games except PM and Melee where he was a 2nd main) since I loved the Zelda games and I was a huge fan of Link. Picking a character you really like or you're a big fan of is a great way to find a permanent main throughout most games (I even stuck to Link in Brawl LOL). If you want to pick a permanent character for the specific game, try out most characters first and see whose playstyle you have fun with the most. After playing Sm4sh and taking on and dropping like 23 second mains, I've learned to realize that the amount of fun you have with the character really affects how you play.

Pls I'm the original

I really liked playing as sheik in brawl, so im thinking in this game im going to be looking for a fast character (NOT SONIC). I'm also thinking about waiting until after the patch to start expirmenting on some charcters i like, cause the ones currently could change

Or be like me and main someone out of pure rage and hatred.

Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with nor do I condone the actions and wanton destruction and corruption the Sith does.

Star Wars is great . So the reason you main Falco is because you hate him?

 

[Lavani]

All the main talk got me wondering about my choices too. Thinking about the characters I like and the type of playstyle I like, I think are probably the only characters I should be considering seriously.

Very yes obviously
We'll see when he comes out, I'm not expecting much but there's potential.
Pikmin management is kind of annoying as is Pikmin all dying due to desyncing, probably won't pick up.
Not very used to not having safe sh aerials or a conventional jab/ftilt. Could maybe adapt if I gave him time.
It never feels like I'm playing the character right idk, I loathe his awful grab game too.

the superior stage choice of Fountain of dreams

YES

BEST SMASH STAGE EVER

RIGHT HERE

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

YES

BEST SMASH STAGE EVER

RIGHT HERE

This is also why I dislike all the attention dreamland 64 is getting.

Fountain of Dreams has:
Beautiful visuals
A perfect representation of Kirby games
Godlike music that even Hal likes to reuse for Kirby
Platform behaviors that separate it from battlefield while still being legal.

AND YET!

People want Dreamland 64 for some strange reason.

 

[Berserker.]

Not very used to not having safe sh aerials or a conventional jab/ftilt. Could maybe adapt if I gave him time.

what makes you think you can adapt to Mega Man's awkwardness if you can't adapt to a simple name change

 

[berserker00]

what makes you think you can adapt to Mega Man's awkwardness if you can't adapt to a simple name change

Adapting to nerfs (name nerfs) is hard too ya know

 

[Lavani]

what makes you think you can adapt to Mega Man's awkwardness if you can't adapt to a simple name change

I know you aren't the original

you can't fool me

 

[Berserker.]

I know you aren't the original

you can't fool me

i think the Macchiato-drinking game took a toll on you sis

go home your drunk

 

[Soul.]

Still waiting for Smashville on 3DS...
and does anyone have that weird **** of "I'm good on 3DS, feel worse on Wii U"

 

[berserker00]

what makes you think you can adapt to Mega Man's awkwardness if you can't adapt to a simple name change

You should nerf yourself all the way and name yourself something like

@Zelda01

Lol our cat was bottom tier before since her name was Zelda before buying her. We decided to buff her by changing dat name

 

[MasterTrumpet]

Still waiting for Smashville on 3DS...
and does anyone have that weird **** of "I'm good on 3DS, feel worse on Wii U"

Yes... I feel that way all the time. I'm not sure if its my hands not adapting to the different controller or what, but i dislike being better in the 3ds version than the wii u, instead of having of the same skill in both.

 

[Lavani]

i think the Macchiato-drinking game took a toll on you sis

go home your drunk

your not home im home





wait

I think in order of other characters I'd try it's probably looking like >>> but I don't think I really need a secondary, so it'd just be another for fun character.

Spoiler

dude I'm almost out of rum and already put a dent in my brandy, I'm gonna need outside funding to keep up with this game

 

[Space Stranger]

Two berserkers!?

@ berserker00 and @ Berserker. explain this occurrence.

 

[Soul.]

Yes... I feel that way all the time. I'm not sure if its my hands not adapting to the different controller or what, but i dislike being better in the 3ds version than the wii u, instead of having of the same skill in both.

Yeah, like, if I were to play the Wii U version right now I know I'd get worse. (Yes I tried out the Pro Controller.) I felt clunky af.
I wish I played better on both. Even though I play 3DS more and still do

 

[Berserker.]

Two berserkers!?

@ berserker00 and @ Berserker. explain this occurrence.

berserker00 = My brother
berserker. = berserker 01 = Me

 

[Ffamran]

Star Wars is great . So the reason you main Falco is because you hate him?

Nah, I main him because people trashed on him and wrote him off within the game's release in Japan, so I got ****** off after a couple weeks of owning the game and people still acting like Falco was horrible beyond relief along with misconceptions being spread and this whole negative attitude against him; early on, Falco was said to have no kill moves other than Bair and his Smashes, no edgeguarding tools, and overall pitiful in the early days along with I guess you could say, bias, where if people see a Falco, they'll start rooting for the other player. People dropped him because he's not the broken mess he was in Melee and Brawl and that they only mained him because of his tier rank. Marth, Meta Knight, Dr. Mario, Robin, Triple D, Zelda, and everyone else ended up getting better light, but Falco hasn't and is still treated pretty badly, especially since there aren't any good and major results with him. Still, I bet that if he won EVO, people would still make excuses like, "Oh, Nakat's hand was hurting that day, so that Falco player won unfairly," and, "ZeRo wasn't used to the new patch", and other BS. It's either indifference or trash talk piled on top the few positives people will say about him.

Even early on, people, especially Keitaro, showed he could hold his own against Diddy, then there was the one customs tournament where a Falco did fine against a Sheik despite the commentators saying Falco's not that great and doesn't have much, another tournament had Steelsburg doing well against a Sheik until he SD'd for some reason - he literally walked off the ledge and died -, and there's tons of videos of him against Fox and Captain Falcon and he does fine, but that's not enough apparently. It took one player to bring hype for Zelda, Mii Sword Fighter, Luigi, Greninja, Pac-Man, Olimar, Robin, Charizard, Wii Fit Trainer, and more, but Falco? Nothing. Just a, "Who? There's a character named Falco in SSB4?"

Nowadays, it's less, but there are only a couple of Falco players on well-known stream regularly, GimR and Kato with GimR using Falco as a secondary to his Mr. Game & Watch and Kato being a not so well-known player. So, not a lot of coverage and not a lot of (constant) "proof" to Falco's viability. Meanwhile, Wii Fit Trainer uses Jumbo Hoops and instantly becomes "OMG! SCHLEEEPEER!", or DK, the people's champion with his ever expanding Kong Cyclone... There's also been a lot of ROBs as someone noted.

 

[Gay Ginger]

This is also why I dislike all the attention dreamland 64 is getting.

Fountain of Dreams has:
Beautiful visuals
A perfect representation of Kirby games
Godlike music that even Hal likes to reuse for Kirby
Platform behaviors that separate it from battlefield while still being legal.

AND YET!

People want Dreamland 64 for some strange reason.