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I'll be honest. I still don't know why I named myself Berserker. Most of my names would be something like, "Someguy" or whatever.
 

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I'll be honest. I still don't know why I named myself Berserker. Most of my names would be something like, "Someguy" or whatever.
So... why did berserker01 name himself berserker01?

Edit: More berserkers!
 
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Nah, I main him because people trashed on him and wrote him off within the game's release in Japan, so I got ****** off after a couple weeks of owning the game and people still acting like Falco was horrible beyond relief along with misconceptions being spread and this whole negative attitude against him; early on, Falco was said to have no kill moves other than Bair and his Smashes, no edgeguarding tools, and overall pitiful in the early days along with I guess you could say, bias, where if people see a Falco, they'll start rooting for the other player. People dropped him because he's not the broken mess he was in Melee and Brawl and that they only mained him because of his tier rank. Marth, Meta Knight, Dr. Mario, Robin, Triple D, Zelda, and everyone else ended up getting better light, but Falco hasn't and is still treated pretty badly, especially since there aren't any good and major results with him. Still, I bet that if he won EVO, people would still make excuses like, "Oh, Nakat's hand was hurting that day, so that Falco player won unfairly," and, "ZeRo wasn't used to the new patch", and other BS. It's either indifference or trash talk piled on top the few positives people will say about him.

Even early on, people, especially Keitaro, showed he could hold his own against Diddy, then there was the one customs tournament where a Falco did fine against a Sheik despite the commentators saying Falco's not that great and doesn't have much, another tournament had Steelsburg doing well against a Sheik until he SD'd for some reason - he literally walked off the ledge and died -, and there's tons of videos of him against Fox and Captain Falcon and he does fine, but that's not enough apparently. It took one player to bring hype for Zelda, Mii Sword Fighter, Luigi, Greninja, Pac-Man, Olimar, Robin, Charizard, Wii Fit Trainer, and more, but Falco? Nothing. Just a, "Who? There's a character named Falco in SSB4?"

Nowadays, it's less, but there are only a couple of Falco players on well-known stream regularly, GimR and Kato with GimR using Falco as a secondary to his Mr. Game & Watch and Kato being a not so well-known player. So, not a lot of coverage and not a lot of (constant) "proof" to Falco's viability. Meanwhile, Wii Fit Trainer uses Jumbo Hoops and instantly becomes "OMG! SCHLEEEPEER!", or DK, the people's champion with his ever expanding Kong Cyclone... There's also been a lot of ROBs as someone noted.
I really want to try playing as falco now.
 

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I really want to try playing as falco now.
Enjoy your suffering. :p

... But you're not berserker01, berserker.. I need berserker01 to answer that question and not berserker.. berserker., why must to make things difficult by answering for berserker01? It would have been easier if you, berserker., had waited and let berserker01 answer, and not answer for berserker01, berserker.. :p
 
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... But you're not berserker01, berserker.. I need berserker01 to answer that question and not berserker.. berserker., why must to make things difficult by answering for berserker01? It would have been easier if you, berserker., had waited and let berserker01 answer, and not answer for berserker01, berserker.. :p
Huh?
 

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... But you're not berserker01, berserker.. I need berserker01 to answer that question and not berserker.. berserker., why must to make things difficult by answering for berserker01? It would have been easier if you, berserker., had waited and let berserker01 answer, and not answer for berserker01, berserker.. :p
There there, Ffam.

 

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Whoops, I confused berserker01 with berserker00, berserker. formerly known as berserker01. Here's what I mean to say:

... But you're not berserker00, berserker.. I need berserker00 to answer that question and not berserker.. berserker., why must to make things difficult by answering for berserker00? It would have been easier if you, berserker., had waited and let berserker00 answer, and not answer for berserker00, berserker.. :p

In other words, I'm just a loon.
 
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PAGE STEAL. This thread always moves too fast. ; w ; :4sonic:

I've been recently playing random against people in free-for-all smash, and I'm definitely having fun doing it. It's a nice change in pace of always doing 1v1s against people with :4zelda:.

Realized that I'm pretty decent with :4dk:,:4kirby:and:4dedede:. Can use :4darkpit::4lucario::4littlemac:and:4peach: okay.

BUT HOW DO YOU EVEN :4wario:AND:4sonic:!?!?!?!
 

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I just remembered that I'm salty FE:A had no playable base barbarians
fire emblem has only had 2 playable barbarian/brigand things
the first being marty known for his blinding speed and super accurate attacks

the second being Gonzales
known for his deep meaningful quotes and complex thoughts

“But... I ugly... I can't stay with people. They not like me...”
—Gonzalez in a support conversation
 

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PAGE STEAL. This thread always moves too fast. ; w ; :4sonic:

I've been recently playing random against people in free-for-all smash, and I'm definitely having fun doing it. It's a nice change in pace of always doing 1v1s against people with :4zelda:.

Realized that I'm pretty decent with :4dk:,:4kirby:and:4dedede:. Can use :4darkpit::4lucario::4littlemac:and:4peach: okay.

BUT HOW DO YOU EVEN :4wario:AND:4sonic:!?!?!?!
Wait a minute...

I think I've seen this post before...
 

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Whoops, I confused berserker01 with berserker00, berserker. formerly known as berserker01. Here's what I mean to say:

... But you're not berserker00, berserker.. I need berserker00 to answer that question and not berserker.. berserker., why must to make things difficult by answering for berserker00? It would have been easier if you, berserker., had waited and let berserker00 answer, and not answer for berserker00, berserker.. :p

In other words,I'm just a loon.
grats you broke him... such is the price to pay for following this thread

PAGE STEAL. This thread always moves too fast. ; w ; :4sonic:
I've been recently playing random against people in free-for-all smash, and I'm definitely having fun doing it. It's a nice change in pace of always doing 1v1s against people with :4zelda:.
Realized that I'm pretty decent with :4dk:,:4kirby:and:4dedede:. Can use :4darkpit::4lucario::4littlemac:and:4peach: okay.
BUT HOW DO YOU EVEN :4wario:AND:4sonic:!?!?!?!
Wario: F-air F-air F-air Chomp Waft
Sonic: Die of Cancer

SINCE WHEN DO I DOUBLE POST
 
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Playing around with characters against the CPU again

:4yoshi:
+ Usmash gives me serious 1.0.0 Greninja vibes, why is it so noncommittal?
+ Nair is love, jab/utilt/dtilt/aerials are pretty great too
+

- Reliant on double jump for recovery; **** FOOTSTOOLS
- Actually getting KOs feels harder than it should be
- Amusingly his air speed makes it really hard to grab the ledge from onstage.
- Whyyyyy is this grab so godawful


:4olimar:
+ Very good zoning qualities
+ Fairly safe kill moves that even have good power with the right colored pikmin
+ Very nice grab; bonkers pummel and grab range with white pikmin
+ Lovely recovery

- Pikmin management is annoying
- Pikmin properties are really awful when it comes to clanking moves; Olimar loses trades even in clank situations with his aerials namely, due to the hitboxes being attributed to the actual Pikmin.
- All smashes are reflectable (ewwwwwwww)


:4zelda:
+ Farore's Wind, dair, dsmash
- Everything else

It probably isn't even worth my time to check characters out when there's a patch in 4 days lol
 

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fire emblem has only had 2 playable barbarian/brigand things
the first being marty known for his blinding speed and super accurate attacks

the second being Gonzales
known for his deep meaningful quotes and complex thoughts

“But... I ugly... I can't stay with people. They not like me...”
—Gonzalez in a support conversation
ok ok I mean guys that promote to berserkers so pirates, Ross, FE 11/12 class B males (I swear if anyone mentions someone from this thread)
 

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For what it's worth I never thought Olimar was bad like some folks did when the 3DS AI gave him an artificial weakness.

I think checking out characters is fine Lavani because their playstyle is very unlikely to change even with patches.

I'm bored and a Pokéfreak and I want to see how many others there are. I'll start with numerical questions: who knows how many Pokémon and Moves were introduced in each generation?

The harder challenge comes when you actually have to name them all without a reference. Naming the Pokémon is easier, even though there are more, because it's possible to group them. For Moves, there are numerous ones that are just really obscure (Gens 1 and 6 are probably the worst offenders) that if I told you they were moves you'd probably he surprised. Honestly I struggle naming all the moves even though I've done it multiple times. There was a website I've used before that has you try to name all the Gen 1 Pokémon within a 10-minute span, I may try to find it again.
 
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For what it's worth I never thought Olimar was bad like some folks did when the 3DS AI gave him an artificial weakness.

I think checking out characters is fine Lavani because their playstyle is very unlikely to change even with patches.

I'm bored and a Pokéfreak and I want to see how many others there are. I'll start with numerical questions: who knows how many Pokémon and Moves were introduced in each generation?

The harder challenge comes when you actually have to name them all without a reference. Naming the Pokémon is easier, even though there are more, because it's possible to group them. For Moves, there are numerous ones that are just really obscure (Gens 1 and 6 are probably the worst offenders) that if I told you they were moves you'd probably he surprised. Honestly I struggle naming all the moves even though I've done it multiple times.
I'm good at identifying cries, but definitely not moves and Pokemon from each region lol
 

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For what it's worth I never thought Olimar was bad like some folks did when the 3DS AI gave him an artificial weakness.
I thought the core character seemed good, but when he didn't even function properly I couldn't justify even trying to play him.

I had him at both ~#25 and dead last on my old lists, with asterisks denoting "*if pikmin worked properly" and "*with buggy pikmin AI"

I think checking out characters is fine Lavani because their playstyle is very unlikely to change even with patches.
Yeah, I suppose.

I'm good at identifying cries, but definitely not moves and Pokemon from each region lol
I used to be really good at identifying cries, but the only ones that stick out in my memory now are like...Latias, Vaporeon, Talonflame/Xerneas (why are these cries near identical?), Gardevoir, Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist, Mewtwo.
 

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ok ok I mean guys that promote to berserkers so pirates, Ross, FE 11/12 class B males (I swear if anyone mentions someone from this thread)
pirates are such an underrated class
Edit: probably cause this is how I imagine them when I send them across ocean tiles
 
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TFW @ Berserker. Berserker. changes avatars faster than @Macchiato changing mains.

Would definitely avoid doing a drinking contest for berserker's avatar. :^)
 

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I'm good at identifying cries, but definitely not moves and Pokemon from each region lol
I'm pretty good at identifying cries but there are still a few gen 6 ones I'd probably miss and maybe some unevolved ones from Gen 5, too. And assorted event legendaries. Not sure how well I'd do after Gen 6 updated the cries but most should still be identifiable (though only gens 1 and 2 needed the update IMO).

@Soul. I had some issues adjusting to the Wii U controls but I'm mostly better now. I'm using the Classic Controller because I refuse to buy a 3rd party GCC adapter (plus my GCC is pretty worn) and I ain't busting out $50 for a Pro controller. My biggest issues are with the control stick and input delay (even offline). The control stick is situated down lower than I'm used too so I occasionally screw up my side-b inputs, though this has gotten better lately. I also find it harder to low jump DAir forward because the control stick is bigger than the circle pad. It sucks the most for Villager; I'd use the c-stick but I hate how it halts momentum with Smash enabled (and since I loathe using non-default controls I won't switch to tilts though I'm more used to smash stick anyway). The only non-default control I have is making the front right trigger be grab and the back one be shield because GCC familiarity.
 

Lavani

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It's really hard to resist changing avatars

maybe I can now that it's my waifu but who knows
 

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I used to be really good at identifying cries, but the only ones that stick out in my memory now are like...Latias, Vaporeon, Talonflame/Xerneas (why are these cries near identical?), Gardevoir, Pumpkaboo, Gourgeist, Mewtwo.
The ones I know the best are the weird/eerie or unique ones: Giratina (my bby), Gastly line, Yveltal, Dusknoir, Escavalier, Deoxys, Dialga, Palkia, Rayquaza, Metagross, etc
 
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