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Alphatron

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A very reliable source at Namco just sent me some patch notes for Zelda. And wow...I can't believe she was buffed this much! Just look at the list.

Zelda
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-projectiles now move faster and you can store their charge. They also have incredible decreased start up and end lag.
-Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot where it goes right through people.
-characters no longer fall out of smash attacks at random.
-All aerials, especially back air and forward air, have reduced ending lag.
-Down B has been incredibly buffed
-Zelda's run speed has been increased to the point where she's one of the fastest characters in the game.
-Tier lists all say Zelda is top tier now.
-It's Sheik along.
-There are literally two Sheiks on the character selection screen now.
-Congratulations. After 3 games, Zelda is finally a good character in smash bros.

@ Macchiato Macchiato or anyone else. You guys up for some games? For Glory kind of sucks and it's better to practice with consistently decent people. I'm trash bad but you know what I mean. Plus, it feels lonely seeing no other Zelda players on FG. Even if I do despise Zelda dittos.
 

BJN39

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A very reliable source at Namco just sent me some patch notes for Zelda. And wow...I can't believe she was buffed this much! Just look at the list.

Zelda
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Ooooh.

*Reading*

-projectiles now move faster and you can store their charge. They also have incredible decreased start up and end lag.
-Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot where it goes right through people.
-characters no longer fall out of smash attacks at random.
-All aerials, especially back air and forward air, have reduced ending lag.
:D
< Is actually believing this to be possibly legit.

-Down B has been incredibly buffed
-Zelda's run speed has been increased to the point where she's one of the fastest characters in the game.
-Tier lists all say Zelda is top tier now.
-It's Sheik along.
-There are literally two Sheiks on the character selection screen now.
-Congratulations. After 3 games, Zelda is finally a good character in smash bros.
 
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FullMoon

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I don't even know what's going on here I just came back from picking up my sister at school and it's freezing and I now have a cold because of it.
 

HeroMystic

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So after playing a number of games, I can confidently rank my characters from best to worst.

Top Tier: :4mario:
High Tier: :4samus::rosalina:
Mid Tier: :4drmario::4falco::4sonic::4luigi::4myfriends::4link:
Low Tier: :4robinm::4shulk::4zss:

I'd really like my Samus to be Top Tier like my Mario, but her bad neutrals and over-reliance of Charged Shot makes her very difficult for me to seriously invest into. I've actually been thinking about investing in ZSS though. Despite her horrid neutral game, she is fun to play and she feels similar to Samus. I think if the patch doesn't buff Samus I may completely settle for ZSS as a secondary.

Random post but I was bored.
 

FullMoon

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"This character (Greninja) is so fast. It's like a better version of Fox"

- High ranked player in Anther's Ladder

I'll just let this sink in.
 

Macchiato

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A very reliable source at Namco just sent me some patch notes for Zelda. And wow...I can't believe she was buffed this much! Just look at the list.

Zelda
---
-projectiles now move faster and you can store their charge. They also have incredible decreased start up and end lag.
-Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot where it goes right through people.
-characters no longer fall out of smash attacks at random.
-All aerials, especially back air and forward air, have reduced ending lag.
-Down B has been incredibly buffed
-Zelda's run speed has been increased to the point where she's one of the fastest characters in the game.
-Tier lists all say Zelda is top tier now.
-It's Sheik along.
-There are literally two Sheiks on the character selection screen now.
-Congratulations. After 3 games, Zelda is finally a good character in smash bros.

@ Macchiato Macchiato or anyone else. You guys up for some games? For Glory kind of sucks and it's better to practice with consistently decent people. I'm trash bad but you know what I mean. Plus, it feels lonely seeing no other Zelda players on FG. Even if I do despise Zelda dittos.
In school sis
 
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Greninja better than Fox? Top lol of the highest degree.
Fox is the 3rd best in the game. No way Greninja is on his level.


These are my characters from best to worst (based on how well I use them)

Main tier :4shulk:
Secondary tier :4mario::4fox:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
High tier :4megaman::4sheik::4diddy::4falcon:
Mid tier :4pit::4robinf::4ness::4myfriends::4luigi::4charizard:
Low tier :4miisword::4kirby::4falco::4marth::4zss::4ness:
Bottom tier :4greninja::4jigglypuff::4bowser::4pacman::4wiifit:
TBA tier :4lucas:
 
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I wonder where the **** do people put Pika on their tier lists
I don't use Pikachu that much so I didn't put him anywhere.

Although I hate Jigglypuff (as a character), I've been using her for a while now. I suck with her ;-;
 
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Alphatron

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If Pikachu ain't top tier then I don't know who is. His flaws seem to be that he has short range and a small selection of strong KO moves (unless you use customs). But once he gets in...he really gets in. I agree with Dabuz when he put pikachu in S tier.

Then again, I still think Shulk is really good and that charizard is balls terrible and worse than Bowser. So my opinion may be outdated.
 
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If Pikachu ain't top tier then I don't know who is. His flaws seem to be that he has short range and a small selection of strong KO moves (unless you use customs). But once he gets in...he really gets in. I agree with Dabuz when he put pikachu in S tier.

Then again, I still think Shulk is really good and that charizard is balls terrible and worse than Bowser. So my opinion may be outdated.
It isn't outdated. You're right on track actually

Well, except Zard is actually better than Bowser but that's just my opinion
 
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Soul.

 
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I can't see it getting worse. Maybe it's just people saying stupid **** that makes 0 sense.
Customs give it another KO option in HSB but eh.
 

Rizen

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A very reliable source at Namco just sent me some patch notes for Zelda. And wow...I can't believe she was buffed this much! Just look at the list.

Zelda
---
-projectiles now move faster and you can store their charge. They also have incredible decreased start up and end lag.
-Forward tilt no longer has a blind spot where it goes right through people.
-characters no longer fall out of smash attacks at random.
-All aerials, especially back air and forward air, have reduced ending lag.
-Down B has been incredibly buffed
-Zelda's run speed has been increased to the point where she's one of the fastest characters in the game.
-Tier lists all say Zelda is top tier now.
-It's Sheik along.
-There are literally two Sheiks on the character selection screen now.
-Congratulations. After 3 games, Zelda is finally a good character in smash bros.

@ Macchiato Macchiato or anyone else. You guys up for some games? For Glory kind of sucks and it's better to practice with consistently decent people. I'm trash bad but you know what I mean. Plus, it feels lonely seeing no other Zelda players on FG. Even if I do despise Zelda dittos.
I call BS on this.
 
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Antonykun

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Fox is the 3rd best in the game. No way Greninja is on his level.


These are my characters from best to worst (based on how well I use them)

Main tier :4shulk:
Secondary tier :4mario::4fox:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
High tier :4megaman::4sheik::4diddy::4falcon:
Mid tier :4pit::4robinf::4ness::4myfriends::4luigi::4charizard:
Low tier :4miisword::4kirby::4falco::4marth::4zss::4ness:
Bottom tier :4greninja::4jigglypuff::4bowser::4pacman::4wiifit:
TBA tier :4lucas:
You use Swordfighter?
 

Lavani

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My list!

Top: :rosalina:
High:
Mid: :4metaknight:
Low: :4luigi::4lucario:
Bottom: Everyone else

I'm so bad at :4greninja::4dedede: now you wouldn't even be able to tell I used to main them, I dunno how people can return to characters after not playing them for awhile or switch between characters with different playstyles. Too hard for me.

I'm getting better at cyclone gimps so I might start putting more time into Luigi, but I don't really care to focus anyone but Rosalina for now...and Mewtwo is of course a planned focus in the near future.
 
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UkeNicky

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Gosh people are so annoying online x.x
Is like every single match, everyone runs away and spams projectiles, but like emphasis on run away.
It's easier to catch a run away Ultimecia in Dissidia than this crap.

Am I the ONLY one who gets 0 enjoyment out of Smash unless I'm playing it with friends .-. ?

Nya
 

OmegaSorin

The Lucky Hero
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Top: :4lucina::4marth:
High: :4littlemac::4luigi::4jigglypuff::4drmario:
Mid: :4sheik::4robinf::4miibrawl::4link:
Low: :4diddy::4fox::4ness::4samus:

Anyone below High I'm good enough in to do decently well with casually, anyone higher and above I could play on a low professional level. And Top I could probably do Mid Professional Level if I -really- tried.

Anyone not listed, I can't do jack**** with lol.
 

WillLi

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Oh character list of how good you are with them? I wanna post to that. Though keep in mind my 'Top' is only good enough to not be the worst person at a local tourney XD

Top::4sheik:
High::4link:
Mid::4falcon::4mario::4littlemac::4zelda:
Cause nothing else works::4myfriends::4bowser:
Practicing::4peach::4robinf:
 

Duzzzyy

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Might as well follow trend.
Top: :4zss:
High Tier: :4robinf::4lucina::4sheik:
Mid: :4zelda:
Low: :rosalina:
Bottom: :4palutena:
Soon: :4falcon:
So many characters I want to learn at once, mainly Zelda and Palutena, that it gets hard to keep things straight. After playing a lot of Zelda for the entire day I instinctively tried to Dair off-stage when playing Zero Suit. Didn't end well. At all. :salt::shaker:
 

Lavani

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After playing a lot of Zelda for the entire day I instinctively tried to Dair off-stage when playing Zero Suit. Didn't end well. At all. :salt::shaker:
This happens to me all the time when I try to go from characters like Rosalina and Zelda to characters like Greninja and Sheik too. :salt::shaker:
 

HeroMystic

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Might as well follow trend.
Top: :4zss:
High Tier: :4robinf::4lucina::4sheik:
Mid: :4zelda:
Low: :rosalina:
Bottom: :4palutena:
Soon: :4falcon:
Couldn't help but notice all the characters you play are female.


Please tell me how to play ZSS better and not over-rely on Boost Kick for kills like 90% of ZSS players I've witnessed.
 

Duzzzyy

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Gosh people are so annoying online x.x
Is like every single match, everyone runs away and spams projectiles, but like emphasis on run away.
It's easier to catch a run away Ultimecia in Dissidia than this crap.

Am I the ONLY one who gets 0 enjoyment out of Smash unless I'm playing it with friends .-. ?

Nya
It's rare but occasionally you get that amazing partner that is good, has sportsmanship and doesn't roll spam and camp. Had one of these a few days ago, with no lag, ended up playing all day long through For Glory and we were dead even in stocks throughout the entire session. Otherwise I loathe For Glory and try to find people to play with directly.

Btw does anyone know how many stocks you need to take to get the medal we had in the last picture?


 

Baskerville

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Oh we're doing these?
Top: :rosalina:
High: :4falco: :4charizard:
Mid: :4greninja::4palutena::4littlemac::4robinf:
Low::4bowser::4shulk:
I ****ing love Shulk, but I feel like I haven't played enough of him to get a good grasp of what I should be doing.
 

Lavani

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Oh, I got distracted by lists and forgot to post what I came here to post:

 
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Oh personal performance character list?


High: :4link:
You used Link at some point?

I'm also not surprised at all that Shulk is low in a lot of lists. It's either he's at your top tier because you main him or bottom/low because you don't main him
 

HeroMystic

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You used Link at some point?

I'm also not surprised at all that Shulk is low in a lot of lists. It's either he's at your top tier because you main him or bottom/low because you don't main him
"Doing pretty good with vanilla Shulk, lets use Spee--OMG I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT I'M DOING!"
 
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