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[warionumbah2]

They're in the same universe, like where's your basic nintendo knowledge?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ Soul. Sorry that took longer than I said it would, the website I use to make gifs was just not having it today, lol. Well whatever, here:

 

[Furret]

Mario series

They're in the same universe, like where's your basic nintendo knowledge?

keyword here, "series"

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

@berserker01

So were you successful in beating the magic bosses?

 

[Macchiato]

No powerful exploits from best to worst. Also community lists are usually done by casuals and FG warriors.

Spoiler

Mario series

Zelda series

Kirby series

Pokemon series

Weaboo Emblem series

Kid Icarus series

Starfox series

3rd party free loaders

 

[Soul.]

No powerful exploits from best to worst. Also community lists are usually done by casuals and wifi/FG warriors.

Spoiler

Mario series

Zelda series

Kirby series

Pokemon series

Weaboo Emblem series

Kid Icarus series

Starfox series

3rd party free loaders

bruh what are you talking about. wifi warriors are found in the wonderland that is with friends, where you don't see any stupid complaints

 

[Lorde]

What are Pikachu's good customs? Heavy Skull Bash and the stunning Thunder Jolt are the ones that stand out most to me, but the others just seem niche.

I'm beginning to like Pikachu a lot, though. I just can't really figure out how to kill with him.

 

[Macchiato]

What are Pikachu's good customs? Heavy Skull Bash and the stunning Thunder Jolt are the ones that stand out most to me, but the others just seem niche.

I'm beginning to like Pikachu a lot, though. I just can't really figure out how to kill with him.

Thunder burst destroys shields and kills at like 70%

 

[warionumbah2]

keyword here, "series"

Furret is ugly.

bruh what are you talking about. wifi warriors are found in the wonderland that is with friends, where you don't see any stupid complaints

Wifi warriors are ******* too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

 

[Ffamran]

Do you guys remember all the stupid stuff you could do to spacies in Brawl?
vs. was one of the most fun matchups. It was basically like
Samus: dsmash x 100 > bair
"GO BACK TO MELEE FOX"

Brawl Wolf was the most effed up despite being considered good overall and could go toe to toe with Brawl Meta Knight. 60 frames to cancel a meteor meant he was the only to get spiked in the game - no one exceeded 32 frames to cancel a meteor smash except him -, he had poor vertical momentum cancel, he was "heavy" compared to Fox and Falco along with being a fast faller, and his hitbox was larger than them. Anyone with a chain grab or a good grab game meant he instantly dies. Here's the thing, if he doesn't get grabbed, he's a literal beast.

You could literally port Wolf over and he would be at Fox's level just because chain grabs were removed and SSB4's mechanics. He was the only spacie who upon introduction didn't exploit the engine which is ironic when you think about it. Even though the engine actually hurt him, it didn't stop Wolf from being a badass. If only Brawl Ganondorf didn't suffer like that... Well, he got his chance in SSB4.

 

[Soul.]

Furret is ugly.

Wifi warriors are *****es too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

i played a good mk in fg a while ago. did the standard **** mk players do such as dash attack > up b, uair to up b, dair to camp, and bair for edgeguarding. fsmash too.
edit: not sure if he was using nado. i think it was once

 

[Macchiato]

Wifi warriors are *****es too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

***** what did you say?

 

[Furret]

Furret is ugly.

bruh

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Fire Wall is good at getting rid of pressure
That + Speed Thunder is great at keeping peeps out your face
Thunder+ is godlike in dubs and another kill move against chars that don't have a reflector
Lol at that other Arcfire
Elwind customs are dirt and Nosferatu customs are niche
Distant Nos could have uses in dubs but idk
Goetia can suck you in and does more DPS but more startup and no heal factor is not a great trade off

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Brawl Wolf was the most effed up despite being considered good overall and could go toe to toe with Brawl Meta Knight. 60 frames to cancel a meteor meant he was the only to get spiked in the game - no one exceeded 32 frames to cancel a meteor smash except him -, he had poor vertical momentum cancel, he was "heavy" compared to Fox and Falco along with being a fast faller, and his hitbox was larger than them. Anyone with a chain grab or a good grab game meant he instantly dies. Here's the thing, if he doesn't get grabbed, he's a literal beast.

You could literally port Wolf over and he would be at Fox's level just because chain grabs were removed and SSB4's mechanics. He was the only spacie who upon introduction didn't exploit the engine which is ironic when you think about it. Even though the engine actually hurt him, it didn't stop Wolf from being a badass. If only Brawl Ganondorf didn't suffer like that... Well, he got his chance in SSB4.

I always found that meteor cancel thing with Wolf so strange...I wonder if it was programmed like that on purpose. Wasn't ZSS one of the quickest to cancel a meteor? Iirc it was like 15 or 16 frames. Oh yeah and if Wolf becomes DLC, which he probably will, I'll be excited to see him because the mechanics in this game would be much better for him~

 

[OmegaSorin]

They're in the same universe, like where's your basic nintendo knowledge?

Clearly someone can't read basic english...

Diddy and Donkey Kong are from their own series, that just happens to also take place in the Mario world, why would anyone assume they were part of the Mario Series? D:

A shame.

 

[Lavani]

The problem with Thunder Burst being that it's even slower than Bowser's fsmash and lacks combo setups...in the situations where you could reliably use it like after a jab lock, you have Heavy Skull Bash as a stronger kill option anyway. Also, the multihit portion of the move has such weak hitstun that characters with moves like Rock Hurl, Rest, Rising Uppercut, etc. can break out of it before the killing hit. It also doesn't stall Pikachu in the air and has end lag for years, so it isn't good for edgeguarding.

And you give up Thunder for it.

I've heard some Pika players express interest in it before but I couldn't see myself ever using it personally, especially considering what it replaces.

What are Pikachu's good customs? Heavy Skull Bash and the stunning Thunder Jolt are the ones that stand out most to me, but the others just seem niche.

That pretty much sums it up.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Bleh I would love to use Robin more but I'll stick to using her in dubs

 

[Soul.]

No, Pika's only "worth using" custom is Heavy Skull Bash. Thunder Wave is interchangeable with Jolt. Shock is meh. Don't really see the appeal of it.
Thunder Burst is bad and Distant Thunder is meh.

 

[warionumbah2]

***** what did you say?

I said

Wifi warriors are *****es too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

i played a good mk in fg a while ago. did the standard **** mk players do such as dash attack > up b, uair to up b, dair to camp, and bair for edgeguarding. fsmash too.
edit: not sure if he was using nado. i think it was once

FG is like the worst place to use MK, he sucks on FD which is why some people think he loses to D3. Still don't know why tornado isn't used often its a good move if not the best move MK has in his kit.

Clearly someone can't read basic english...



A shame.

My b, i tend to not read ur posts so i skimmed it.

 

[OmegaSorin]

My b, i tend to not read ur posts so i skimmed it.

Can't spell basic English either.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

*gasp* I found a really informative anti-Sonic guide on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXfpU1OX7c

GOODBYE TO ALL OF MY PROBLEMS WITH BLUE CANCER

 

[OmegaSorin]

*gasp* I found a really informative anti-Sonic guide on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfXfpU1OX7c

GOODBYE TO ALL OF MY PROBLEMS WITH BLUE CANCER

 

[Soul.]

FG is like the worst place to use MK, he sucks on FD which is why some people think he loses to D3. Still don't know why tornado isn't used often its a good move if not the best move MK has in his kit.

What are MK's good stages again? I know Battlefield is one because the platforms let him combo with up air to Up B + the blast zone.

 

[Macchiato]

I said

Wifi warriors are *****es too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

No, the input lag isn't that off anyway. Not everyone's internet is laggy like yours. Isn't there like 2 good metaknight mains, out of like 7 people that still main him?

 

[OmegaSorin]

No, the input lag isn't that off anyway. Not everyone's internet is laggy like yours. Isn't there like 2 good metaknight mains, out of like 7 people that still main him?

People still main Meta Knight?

 

[Soul.]

People still main Meta Knight?

Since 1.0.4.

 

[OmegaSorin]

Since 1.0.4.

Huh, surprising, I thought a majority of people stopped Maining him after he got **** tiered.

 

[Cenizas]

This should've been a thing sooner.

 

[Lorde]

Not everyone's internet is laggy like yours. Isn't there like 2 good metaknight mains, out of like 7 people that still main him?

Pro-tip: whenever you resort to using an ad hominem in an argument, you automatically lose said argument.

Besides, MK is a way better character than Zelda.

 

[warionumbah2]

What are MK's good stages again? I know Battlefield is one because the platforms let him combo with up air to Up B + the blast zone.

Anything with platforms is good for MK.

No, the input lag isn't that off anyway. Not everyone's internet is laggy like yours. Isn't there like 2 good metaknight mains, out of like 7 people that still main him?

Don't bash my internet just because i'm calling out wifi warriors, my internet is weird anyway i had a lagless match against someone from Canada. Input lag hurts characters like MK,Greninja and to some extent MM. Real talk you can get away with spot dodge into D-Smash consistently with Mario,Luigi and Doc. There's a MK user in Japan who's disappeared into oblivion, Unknown and Ito still mains MK keep up to date he just has Diddy as a backup because eezy munay.

 

[Ffamran]

I always found that meteor cancel thing with Wolf so strange...I wonder if it was programmed like that on purpose. Wasn't ZSS one of the quickest to cancel a meteor? Iirc it was like 15 or 16 frames. Oh yeah and if Wolf becomes DLC, which he probably will, I'll be excited to see him because the mechanics in this game would be much better for him~

It might have been an oversight since his recovery wasn't that great when you think about it. Fire Wolf had ledge sweetspot issues and Wolf Flash could send him onto the ledge making it punishable or he would overshoot and be in helpless waiting to get punished. His horizontal recovery was good since he could move in the air so well, but vertically, it might be worse than Fox's and better than Falco's or maybe even worse depending on how you look at it. 60 frames is also an outlier compared to 32 and I think the wiki said the average was 25 which meant his meteor cancel was more than double for some reason.

Jay Ward sounds great for Wolf, but considering Wolf's first few frames at idle looks like Fox's, the weird meteor cancel frames, and that it seemed like Brawl was rushed at the end, he and Sonic might have been made at the last second which would mean it's impossible to get Grant Goodeve for Wolf and actually balance him more, especially with one person. The irony is that he ended up as a fair character and the first Star Fox character to have a clean record despite being the anti-hero, rival, or plain ol' villain. Melee Fox and Falco were broken and Brawl Falco was broken with SSB4 Fox bordering slightly broken with his Jab lock which can be DI'd, but still. Brawl Wolf only abused his air speed, range, and basically his design while getting abused by the engine.

Hey, Lavani's here! This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPmMs4wiclk, can be DI'd or SDI'd, right?

 

[Macchiato]

Besides, MK is a way better character than Zelda.

No, I don't think so

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I said

Wifi warriors are *****es too since they're apart of the Smash community, difference is that alot of what they say MU wise hold less weight because they play online where input lag can screw characters over. Like how many wifi warriors played a good MK without lag outside FG????

FG is like the worst place to use MK, he sucks on FD which is why some people think he loses to D3. Still don't know why tornado isn't used often its a good move if not the best move MK has in his kit.


My b, i tend to not read ur posts so i skimmed it.

QFT
Many of these community tier lists are hilarious because you rarely see certain characters played well on FG
It's funny hearing someone say a character is dirt when they spend all their time on Roll Glory

What are MK's good stages again? I know Battlefield is one because the platforms let him combo with up air to Up B + the blast zone.

Halbred right?

 

[FullMoon]

Amiibo shortage is sad but leads to some hilarious stuff.

 

[OmegaSorin]

Besides, MK is a way better character than Zelda.

Opinion, Not fact.

If that was fact, then Diddy is a better character than everyone. Let's try not to think about that.

 

[Lorde]

If that was fact, then Diddy is a better character than everyone. Let's try not to think about that.

But he is? I'm confused as to where you were going with that statement.

Name one match-up that Diddy loses. There aren't any, so idk how he couldn't be better than everyone else. As it stands, Diddy is irrefutably the best character. We're just hoping he gets nerfed to oblivion on the 15th.

 

[Rizen]

Opinion, Not fact.

If that was fact, then Diddy is a better character than everyone. Let's try not to think about that.

Diddy is a better character than everyone.

 

[FullMoon]

Today I found out that if I get hit by PK Fire, Greninja can just mash jab and Ness won't be able to grab him.

That's very nice to know, usually I just tried my best to roll away.

 

[Soul.]

Even if Diddy's down throw gets nerfed, he still has up throw. So I don't know why are we complaining if he still has another potent throw.

Halbred right?

Yeah, Halberd is good for MK.