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Guide Zelda Social: But also the FE Heroes Internet Cafe

S.F.L.R_9

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I liked that Zeldas were rare tho bc most of the time if you saw a Zelda and it wasn't in Basic Brawl it meant that they were dedicated to her and were very good with her
 

Baskerville

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Do you guys remember all the stupid stuff you could do to spacies in Brawl?
:zerosuitsamus: vs. :fox: was one of the most fun matchups. It was basically like
Samus: dsmash x 100 > bair
"GO BACK TO MELEE FOX"
:sheik: vs. :fox:
Ohhh yeah.
 

SBphiloz4

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In Brawl, it's all about these amazing, intense and fair MUs

:popo:vs:bowser2:
:sheik:vs:fox:
:pikachu2:vs:fox:
:dedede:vs:bowser2::dk2::luigi2::mario2::samus2:
:olimar:vs:zelda:
:ganondorf:vs THE WHOLE CAST
 

Shrokatii

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Look at ganondorfs sadness in his stock icon...:ganondorf: depressing
 

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I love Sheik vs. Fox in Brawl. F-tilt locks all day :D
Brawl Zelda is my favorite official Zelda incarnation, but I love Farore's Wind so in SSB4 that it's not by a big margin. Phantom Slash is warming up on me too. I still miss being able to play as Sheilda though.
 
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Out of no where, I decide to go against the asterisk gauntlet in Bravely Default

Then I had to fight conjurer+black mage+summoner+salve-maker all at the same time. I still remember that you can die at the first turn if you make the slightest **** up.

That boss group ALONE forced me to break the game with the overpowered ninja class
 

S.F.L.R_9

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Quantity wise, yes. But I think her buffs were much bigger than her nerfs. Also the mechanics. She has an actually grab now.
What buffs did she get beside FW, her grab, and dthrow. Don't say Din's Fire because that move is still barely usable

The majority of her moveset was killed
Sm4sh mechanics somewhat saved her
 

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Had some good matches today, I'm back at 77th in the ladder for now.

Hydro Pump messes with Ike so much oh my god. He tries his hardest to recover and Greninja just goes "nope" and sprinkles water on him and there he goes.

This character is so much fun I just wish I had more opportunities to play him offline.
 

CatRaccoonBL

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WAIFU BEATER ALERT.

HIDE YOUR WAIFUS AND HUSBANDOS FROM HIM. WE HAVE A MADMAN.
*hides you*

Out of no where, I decide to go against the asterisk gauntlet in Bravely Default

Then I had to fight conjurer+black mage+summoner+salve-maker all at the same time. I still remember that you can die at the first turn if you make the slightest **** up.

That boss group ALONE forced me to break the game with the overpowered ninja class
For that boss fight I used the Spirtmaster Valkeryie trick. Except I did it stupidly.

Instead of just attacking before using stillness, I instead drained all their mp because thats what their dialogue implied I should be doing...

I was there for about an hour. I drained all their mp though!
 
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For that boss fight I used the Spirtmaster Valkeryie trick. Except I did it stupidly.

Instead of just attacking before using stillness, I instead drained all their mp because thats what their dialogue implied I should be doing...

I was there for about an hour. I drained all their mp though!
I..... actually didn't think about doing that

I'm going to try that out now. Thanks!
Jab actually connects
Grab is faster and much better
Lightning kicks are easier to land
Farores wind
Dthrow is amazing
Dair has a bigger sweet spot
Her air and dash speed are a tad bit faster
Lightning kicks have insane landing lag though and they're ultra-risky to use at neutral. The rest though are true (?)

She still feels like a butchered version of her Brawl incarnation
 
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I..... actually didn't think about doing that

I'm going to try that out now. Thanks!

Lightning kicks have insane landing lag though and they're ultra-risky to use at neutral. The rest though are true (?)
Idk I actually prefer Sm4sh kicks her brawl and pm ones. Melee is still the best kicks though.
 

Blossom ✿

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Zelda was terrible in Brawl too, and then she was nerfed in Sm4sh! :secretkpop:
Shame really. Cuz if she had the good things carry over from Brawl like her Usmash and Utilt in tandem with the buffs Smash 4 had given her, then maybe Zelda would be decent. I'm not sure on that entirely, but it's an interesting (and depressing) thought to think about.
 

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Lightning kicks are easier to land and have a ton of landing lag. The sourspot isn't safe on hit. It's a buff and nerf. Air and dash speed is negligible. Her only real buffs are jab, grab, dthrow, dair, and FW. Meanwhile, all of her smash attacks were nerfed, all of her aerials except dair were nerfed (parts of bair/fair are nerfed and some are buffed), utilt no longer is a fast kill move and the combos off of the new utilt aren't guaranteed (if you try do two utilts on Diddy he just falls out of it, lol...), her ftilt doesn't have combo capabilities anymore, and dtilt no longer locks/trips. OH, and she can't momentum cancel with Nayru's Love anymore so she dies earlier. Zelda was nerfed hard for no reason.
 
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I..... actually didn't think about doing that

I'm going to try that out now. Thanks!

Lightning kicks have insane landing lag though and they're ultra-risky to use at neutral. The rest though are true (?)

She still feels like a butchered version of her Brawl incarnation
There is a specific way you do it. I think you have to have all three members who are attacking have a higher speed then the stillness caster: (I think there are specific shoes that help with this) while having the stillness caster higher speed then the enemies.

I think there is an even specialer trick you can use with the Valkeryies involving jump, but I forget what it was.
 
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