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[Fernosaur]

You use Zelda against Olimar? Omg you're brave.

I'd honestly not call it "brave." :'D

 

[kenniky]

no, that's Soaring Tornado

yes, the tornado in the gfy is the recovery-boosting one

I haven't tried Clothesline yet but iirc Luigi's is booty so Doc's probably is too

what kind of design decision was that

sakuratena pls

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'd honestly not call it "brave." :'D

Insanity perhaps? I know Zelda has made me go insane :^)

 

[Macchiato]

Sis, this is what always happens to me against Olimar (another reason I hate that f****r). I guess Zelda isn't the only one the Goddess Nayru favors...

I only use olimar against specific Gingers

what

we should start a list of OP customs

Spoiler

Power Vision
Luma Warp, Shooting Star Bit
Crescent Slash
Timber Counter, Extreme Balloon Trip
Shifting Shuriken
anything 2
Dragon Rush
Kong Cyclone
Clothesline Tornado

...

nothing lol

Spoiler

Dash Slash

Dashing Falcon Punch
Fast Firebird
Dragon Rush
Guiding Arrow

Rocket Attack
Kong Cyclone
Soaring Tornado, Breezy Cape

Twisting Fox
Wizard's Foot, Dark Fist
Chain Judge

Close Combat

Upper Cutter

Strong Bow

Crescent Slash
Crescent Slash
Soaring Tornado
Breezy Cape
Tornado Hold



Super Speed, Lightweight, Jump Glide

Light Veggie
Thunder Wave


Luma Warp, Shooting Star Bit, Guardian Luma
Dense Charge Shot, Trip Bomb, Relentless Missiles
Penetrating Needles, Gravity Needles
Power Counter
Hammer Spin Dash
Fire Bow, Flying Spin Attack
Timber Counter

Huge Header, Weighted Header, Jumbo Hoops, Sweeping Sun Salutation, Enriched Sun

Farore's Squall

 

[kenniky]

Huge Header, Weighted Header, Jumbo Hoops, Sweeping Sun Salutation, Enriched Sun

LOL that bias though

 

[Kofu]

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but this Furret is 100 times the size of a normal furret therefore, so clearly it's a hundred times stronger and 100 times slower then normal
8500, 7600, 4500, 6400, 5500, .9

Fun fact, if you want to 100x the actual values of the stats the base stats have to go up over 100x. Absolute min value SA (-nature, no IVs or EVs) requires a base stat of 4748, while absolute max requires a stat of 9400.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/197a/

Sold out but you can try ebay or look around for other stuff. There's also a Tardigrade and Anamalocaris plushie I'm planning on getting.

If you look up "Giant Microbes" you can even find a Cancer plushie (no, not Sonic), Herpes plushie, or sperm plushie (lol). I'm going to go broke getting all of this obscure crap.

One of my teachers had some giant microbes plushies, they're great.

I'm pretty sure extreme balloon trip is better than timber counter.

 

[FullMoon]

I thought Wizard's Foot was a default for Ganondorf?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

what

we should start a list of OP customs

Farore's Squall

i'm crying omg Macchi pls

 

[kenniky]

I thought Wizard's Foot was a default for Ganondorf?

He probably meant Wizard's Dropkick

then again this is @ Macchiato we're talking about who knows

EDIT: I have updated the list.

It will probably be buried by tomorrow but w/e

 

[Macchiato]

i'm crying omg Macchi pls

Sis anything that potentially stops hoo hah is broken

He probably meant Wizard's Dropkick

then again this is @ Macchiato we're talking about who knows

Yeah I mean't that, isn't the default called Dark Dive?

 

[Fernosaur]

Insanity perhaps? I know Zelda has made me go insane :^)

YOU CAN CALL IT THAT. My people calls it something entirely different

 

[kenniky]

Yeah I mean't that, isn't the default called Dark Dive?

That's Ganon's default UpB

this is like Hammer Flip vs Hammer Bash all over again

 

[Lavani]

I thought I found a cool new Falco trick with Fast Fire Bird

then I found out @Ffamran already found it awhile ago (Fire Slide)

It's ridiculously hard to get the angle for it but it seems really cool, even if pretty gimmicky. Dtilt and dsmash (among other moves I'm sure) preserve the slide momentum which seems quite useful.

Also Fire Roll feels like the same total duration as a normal sideways FFB to me, but I haven't formally timed.

 

[Soul.]

Clothesline Tornado/Cyclone: A spin that launches opponents he collides with. Slow, but has high launching power.

wtf is this custom

 

[Rizen]

That's Ganon's default UpB

Ironically 'Dark dive' sends him upward.

 

[Macchiato]

LOL that bias though

Huge Header is a long lasting active hitbox that is amazing for getting back from the ledge

Weighted Header can start combos and is a great combo move and also kills

Sweeping SS ignores other peojectiles and can't be clashed and also can gimp

Enriched Sun is great for stage control and the fully charged Sun kills ridiculously early

Idk if Marth or Lucina's Dashing Assualt should join the list

 

[Berserker.]

WFT's customs are great but not broken by all means

Dashing assault is unsafe on shield so hell no

 

[Macchiato]

Dashing assault is unsafe on shield so hell no

Wait so what are it's used?

Iai counter is really good when your offstage, a bouncing fish at 10% = K.O.ed Sheik

 

[Furret]

Fun fact, if you want to 100x the actual values of the stats the base stats have to go up over 100x. Absolute min value SA (-nature, no IVs or EVs) requires a base stat of 4748, while absolute max requires a stat of 9400.

funny that wasn't very fun at all

He probably meant Wizard's Dropkick

then again this is @ Macchiato we're talking about who knows

I mean I just see this and I cringe sometimes

 

[FullMoon]

To be fair I don't think many customs could really be considered broken. The closest I can think of is Kong Cyclone but I think people just don't know how to deal with it properly yet.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ Macchiato Which Sun Salutation is the one where it charges backwards? Like uncharged is large and weak but fully charged is small and powerful

 

[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato Which Sun Salutation is the one where it charges backwards? Like uncharged is large and weak but fully charged is small and powerful

Enriched Sun

 

[BJN39]

Huge Header is a long lasting active hitbox that is amazing for getting back from the ledge

A huge (easy to hit) super weak hit-box that is incredibly easy for your opponent to turn against you.

Sweeping SS ignores other peojectiles and can't be clashed and also can gimp

It also takes about 1.5 times as long to charge fully, which is the only time it seems to connect reliably, especially for the gimp.

Enriched Sun is great for stage control and the fully charged Sun kills ridiculously early

If you can manage to land it at full charge; and the "stage control" isn't great imo.

Weighted Header can start combos and is a great combo move and also kills

I have no idea what you're talking about here but this custom is great.

Basically, there's a difference between "OP" and "Actually useable when compared to the standard variation" all of these customs are not OP, but they range from being a passable substitute, to an actually better option than the original. Even then the only one I can see fitting as actually better is weighted header. :/

 

[Rizen]

IMO only Sweeping Sun Saturation is "broken" for WFT. I say broken lightly, not as a serious bannable thing.

 

[Berserker.]

@ Macchiato

Your avatar has been disturbing me a bit. Lol

Use this instead if you want:

 

[Macchiato]

@ Macchiato

Your avatar has been disturbing me a bit. Lol

Use this instead if you want:

I actually really like my current avatar

 

[Spirst]

No Macchiato don't use it it has a white background!

 

[Furret]

No Macchiato don't use it it has a white background!

wut the sad lump said, I agree

 

[McKnightlíght]

It's one of those days in which I don't know how to play Smash

-Me, every day of my life

 

[Lavani]

When I think "really good" customs, I think

Dash Slash
Dragon Rush (maybe Rock Hurl? 1F superarmor is great but I'm not sold on its reduced power yet)
Kong Cyclone
Soaring Tornado
Dark Fists
Aether Drive, Tempest
Super Speed, Lightweight
Luma Warp
Power Vision
Explosive Balloon Trip, Timber Counter

and all in all I don't think any of these are banworthy, particularly considering they're patching holes in weaker characters, aside from the last three anyway. Luma Warp is good at a specific range but doesn't cover the close-mid range behind it like the other neutralBs, which had inherent kill power without the need for a followup hit. Power Vision is a crazy-strong counter, but it's still a counter and is slower to hit than the default (though I'm not sure by how much exactly, the frame data for it is weird + doesn't account for the slowdown effect I'm pretty sure). Timber Counter basically trades a kill move for an immobile banana. EBT "nerfs" Villager's recovery, but it's still more than good enough and makes edgeguarding him/her an absolute chore so it's probably the closest thing there is to an outright dumb custom to me atm, but maybe there's stuff I don't know about it yet.

/words

-Me, every day of my life

^ this

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

>Looking for a certain picture of Sheik and I find yaoi with Sheik??? Do people actually not know that Sheik is a girl or are they just oblivious lol

Power Vision is a crazy-strong counter, but it's still a counter and is slower to hit than the default (though I'm not sure by how much exactly, the frame data for it is weird + doesn't account for the slowdown effect I'm pretty sure).

It also becomes weaker as you use it so it's kind of a one time thing. I think it refreshes per each stock tho but I'm not positive on that.

 

[Nammy12]

No Macchiato don't use it it has a white background!

Save it as a png or put in your own background.
Problem solved.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

If you look up "Giant Microbes" you can even find a Cancer plushie (no, not Sonic)

I think you mean yoshi

 

[Macchiato]

Save it as a png or put in your own background.
Problem solved.
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But I like my avatar

When I think "really good" customs, I think

Dash Slash
Dragon Rush (maybe Rock Hurl? 1F superarmor is great but I'm not sold on its reduced power yet)
Kong Cyclone
Soaring Tornado
Dark Fists
Aether Drive, Tempest
Super Speed, Lightweight
Luma Warp
Power Vision
Explosive Balloon Trip, Timber Counter

and all in all I don't think any of these are banworthy, particularly considering they're patching holes in weaker characters, aside from the last three anyway. Luma Warp is good at a specific range but doesn't cover the close-mid range behind it like the other neutralBs, which had inherent kill power without the need for a followup hit. Power Vision is a crazy-strong counter, but it's still a counter and is slower to hit than the default (though I'm not sure by how much exactly, the frame data for it is weird + doesn't account for the slowdown effect I'm pretty sure). Timber Counter basically trades a kill move for an immobile banana. EBT "nerfs" Villager's recovery, but it's still more than good enough and makes edgeguarding him/her an absolute chore so it's probably the closest thing there is to an outright dumb custom to me atm, but maybe there's stuff I don't know about it yet.

/words

You don't think crescent slash is really good?

 

[Spirst]

Save it as a png or put in your own background.
Problem solved.
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Yeah, I know how to do it. Just didn't bother to.

I think you mean yoshi

Sonic/Yoshi/Mega Man are all strains of cancer so both are right.

 

[Berserker.]

The Yoshi hate is strong in this thread. I only hate his face

You don't think crescent slash is really good?

It has its notable weaknesses which can be exploited

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

You don't think crescent slash is really good?

Imo it doesn't seem that amazing on paper so I get why it's not on there. You kind of have to experience the pain it brings you >_>

 

[evmaxy54]

The most attention seeking band in recent times has just released their new record a few hours ago I would listen to it but sleep is needed so yea enjoy

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL55Jv4fGPIb8hSZhdtiM9ceSQx--BK9cY

*****s On The Moon is p cool tho

 

[Lavani]

If I were going to add Crescent Slash I'd be adding a lot of other customs too

currently appreciating the fact that xx32 Mario can combo uncharged Scaling Fludd>dthrow>uair>EJP to kill Diddy from anywhere on 3DS FD starting from 75%

EDIT: I'm actually being bad, with a partial charge it's more like 60%

EDIT2: Okay it still doesn't actually need to be charged at all to kill at 60%

 

[Macchiato]

It might not be broken but imo crescent slash is still a really good custom.