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BJN39

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@ BJN39 BJN39 you listing High Jump Kick (glad we got past the "Hi Jump Kick" era) thematically works for Zelda, but it's actually literal for Falcon's knee IIRC. The move is actually a jumping strike with the knee extended. His moveset kind of makes itself:
-Focus Punch
-Blaze Kick
-High Jump Kick
-Quick Attack

Doing All-Star with Olimar on hard is literally a horrible experience.
Well shoot, checked and found a video and you're right! That's kind of cool. I hadn't played pokemon long enough I wouldn't have know that HJK was knee based. Learn something new every day.

Well, I guess thunder kick would do... I just liked the complete suicide that's possible with HJK haha. Zelda in a shellnut. Maybe I'll look a around for an equally fitting move...

Low sweep? Kinda reminiscent of two of her more prominent (At least in Brawl days.) moves, Dtilt and Dsmash. Dtilt is still pretty prominent in use in SSB4 too, so...

Edit : It can also be pretty effective on fat chars! lol.
 
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You know, I've never even seen a boxing match. But I'm pretty sure that's illegal, it's funny as hell though.:laugh:
There's boxing, kickboxing, shootboxing, Savate, Muay Thai, MMA, Pankration, etc. From the looks of it, that was either kickboxing or Muay Thai. Anyway, I found a real life representation of For Glory. :p
 

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Well, I've been caught in a wave of Mother 3/Earthbound videos.

Time to play Earthbound then. Maybe I can finish it this time.
 
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I didn't make it to pro bracket because I tied with everyone else and the TO said some other guy should go in despite than I'm on a PR and he isn't :D
 

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K gorls, I've decided that I'm sticking with Shulk and Zelda but I'm also going to use Palutena to cover up some of their matchups and just bc she's fun.
I didn't make it to pro bracket because I tied with everyone else and the TO said some other guy should go in despite than I'm on a PR and he isn't :D
Aerodrome, you're amazing for using a controller that's not the GC controller. That's all that matters. From what I watched, you did great anyway tho.
 

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Lavani find some super secret Yoshi thing that'll change the metagame for us
because




help...
I feel kind of bad for laughing at this as much as I did.

I'm not even sure where to look for things with Yoshi, he seemed pretty straightforward. It's known that his tail is disjointed, right? Ftilt, dtilt, utilt, dsmash, uair, and bair can all hit Bob-ombs without Yoshi being hurt. Fsmash and usmash make his head and legs disjointed as well, respectively, but that's in the frame data so that should definitely already be known.

Other than that I got nothin'.
 
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Ffamran

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Can't he just walk over and kick that guy?
Probably, but you'd be confuzzled seeing a dude rolling around in a fight. Knowing For Glory, they'll probably run away, especially if they're Sonic. :p
 

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I feel kind of bad for laughing at this as much as I did.

I'm not even sure where to look for things with Yoshi, he seemed pretty straightforward. It's known that his tail is disjointed, right? Ftilt, dtilt, utilt, dsmash, uair, and bair can all hit Bob-ombs without Yoshi being hurt. Fsmash and usmash make his head and legs disjointed as well, respectively, but that's in the frame data so that should definitely already be known.

Other than that I got nothin'.
Yup, Yonez kapichu and some other japanese that've made vines have shown most of this or just basic stuff.
O well
 

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From what???
The 4 mods that were here

K gorls, I've decided that I'm sticking with Shulk and Zelda but I'm also going to use Palutena to cover up some of their matchups and just bc she's fun.

Aerodrome, you're amazing for using a controller that's not the GC controller. That's all that matters. From what I watched, you did great anyway tho.
I use the wii mote and nunchuk, so what was that part about being amazing?
 
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@ Macchiato Macchiato

I'm just saying but I'm surprised you weren't infracted for double posting too much. On a serious note, stop double posting. If you try bringing up the times I've double posted, those were all unintentional

So yeah
 

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@ Macchiato Macchiato You, literally, just said there was 4 mods here and then you double post...
and you still liked those posts
I find it impressive you can like so many posts or maybe it's a system you like posts so that you can remember you read them
@ Macchiato Macchiato

I'm just saying but I'm surprised you weren't infracted for double posting too much. On a serious note, stop double posting. If you try bringing up the times I've double posted, those were all unintentional

So yeah
double posting what is that? Well whatever it is Furrets would clearly never do that.
Here have this it will take your mind off... "things"
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Lavani

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Speaking of super secret metagame changing things, I love that there's a kill combo that starts with a roll:

 

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Back from le cosplay cafe, boy was that tiring--. But it was pretty fun! Had a blast working with the staff and the maids. ;)

Since it's midnight right now, I say Operation :4robinf: should start sometime later in the evening today, maybe 16 hours from now, to celebrate 600 posts and approaching 700 posts. :^)
 

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Holy ****. Fireball cannon's range is enormous.

I can't see you giving up flamethrower's utility for it often... But wow. It has more range than flare blitz and hits from starting positions on FD. Basically 3/4's of the stage.

#customsarecool
 
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Speaking of super secret metagame changing things, I love that there's a kill combo that starts with a roll:

And this is one of the many many many reasons I need to learn Luma/Lunar Landing. But man I find it hard to actually pull it off in the middle of a match.
 

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And this is one of the many many many reasons I need to learn Luma/Lunar Landing. But man I find it hard to actually pull it off in the middle of a match.
You can kind of cheat; sh dair then buffer any aerial except uair, bam guaranteed successful lunar landing. Pretty much the only way to get it consistently online since nair is frame perfect to my knowledge (uair isn't possible with a frame 2 autocancel).

LL nair roll>usmash only kills fastfallers with bad DI though, so it probably won't see use at kill percent. I've used it a few times for damage racking though.

EDIT: Well, it probably works on fatties too, I haven't extensively tested who it can kill against. It isn't actually all fastfallers though, at least not on 3DS; I couldn't connect usmash on Fox at kill percent.
 
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When I'm Pac-Man though, it looks more like this as I run away and hope I don't get hit:

Because of input lag, roll spam, spot dodge spam, and air dodge spam, my matches as Falco and pretty much any other character goes like this:
 

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Holy ****. Fireball cannon's range is enormous.

I can't see you giving up flamethrower's utility for it often... But wow. It has more range than flare blitz and hits from starting positions on FD. Basically 3/4's of the stage.

#customsarecool
It's cool at first but then you realize you're locked into doing at least 3, it has poor shield pressure and is less safe, can't be angled as sharply for edgeguarding, and does less damage. At that point, you go. "Huh, well that was cute" then go back to using Flamethrower.
 

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@NAsh88 @evmaxy54 On the old topic of really gay pop, do you know Goldfrapp? I think they'd be right up your ally.

Btw, I forgot to say it earlier but @Cenizas I listen to jazz too. If you ever wanna share I'm all ears :)
 
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Although I said I'd try to stay away from Sm4sh for a while, I played the game for just a bit. Fox is fun to use
 

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Well shoot, checked and found a video and you're right! That's kind of cool. I hadn't played pokemon long enough I wouldn't have know that HJK was knee based. Learn something new every day.

Well, I guess thunder kick would do... I just liked the complete suicide that's possible with HJK haha. Zelda in a shellnut. Maybe I'll look a around for an equally fitting move...

Low sweep? Kinda reminiscent of two of her more prominent (At least in Brawl days.) moves, Dtilt and Dsmash. Dtilt is still pretty prominent in use in SSB4 too, so...

Edit : It can also be pretty effective on fat chars! lol.
I thrive on that kind of obscure Pokémon trivia. I like competitive play to a point; I'm pretty good at it but I have the same tendency there as Smash to deliberately not pick the best chars in lieu of the ones I like, even if they suck. I like the games, but what I really like is the different concepts for Pokémon. Well-designed fan regions can be pretty cool.

Anyway it's.unfortunate there are no thunder kick moves, only Blaze Kick.

@ Spirst Spirst what the heck do you do as Pac-Man against Rosalina? I mess around with Pac from time to time and tonight I encountered a player whose only decent character was Rosalina. Gave my novice Pac-Man a nightmare. I can see how the MU would be hard for Abadango.

Also two things are frustrating about Luma: that the added hitlag from hitting it can keep Rosalina safe, and that it can attack as it flies back to Rosalina. Oh, and that it's so stretchy that apparently its FSmash hits way farther than it should (still not Falcon jab levels of bad though, geez).
 

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That cat I'm watching is driving me crazy. She misses my mom (who's been in the hospital and wound rehab for 2.5 months). She, the cat, is soooo needy. She's almost constantly rubbing on me, on my lap and wandering around my apt crying. :/

Any tips for beating the challenge 'get 3 or more KOs vs the rival with Diddy in rival multi man smash'? I got 2 but it's hard to set up anything with 5 miis running around. He's hard to gimp, juggle and setup KOs on because the miis.
 
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@ Spirst Spirst what the heck do you do as Pac-Man against Rosalina? I mess around with Pac from time to time and tonight I encountered a player whose only decent character was Rosalina. Gave my novice Pac-Man a nightmare. I can see how the MU would be hard for Abadango.

Also two things are frustrating about Luma: that the added hitlag from hitting it can keep Rosalina safe, and that it can attack as it flies back to Rosalina. Oh, and that it's so stretchy that apparently its FSmash hits way farther than it should (still not Falcon jab levels of bad though, geez).
The MU isn't easy. Side B can be used to heal if the Rosalina is being too trigger happy with GP and you can bait her to try doing so by dropping hydrants near her. A lot of the time, the Rosalina will feel uncomfortable and try to get rid of it with GP which is where you can input side B to heal. One reason Abadango had a lot of trouble at Apex was because he was trying to play his usual way which involves being slow and reliant on the hydrant/fruits rather than making use of Pacman's good CQC frame data and applying some pressure. Something that helps to know is if you wedge a hydrant in between Luma and Rosalina, Luma will act like a little ****** and be unable to move past the hydrant. This forces Rosalina to go try and get him or GP both of which you can account for with the appropriate punish. Key is particularly good here since it does 15% (which a light character like Rosalina can't really afford to keep taking) and is hard to GP on reaction. I'm thinking following a melon could be something to try since it travels so slow it's bait for GP at which point you can try getting a grab/usmash/whatever. I'd write more but it's 5:36 AM and I'm going to bed now.

All in all, it's an uphill battle but I wouldn't call it unwinnable. You just have to be a lot more mindful with your projectile game and try to bait her out.
 

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Hahahahahahahaha. F*ck man, that's rich.

Berse, if a video of those matches surfaces tag me please. I really need to see that :'D


@evmaxy54 @NAsh88 @ Fernosaur Fernosaur I don't know if this will cross into your music tastes but I highly recommend you check out
this album. It was 2011 to me. I love all the songs but highlights are definitely "A Small House in the City" and "A Wedding".

http://rodeorubylove.bandcamp.com/album/vs-the-great-american-cities
That's not bad at all! I don't like it too much when people use sampled dialogues (like in the beginning of A****C), but the songs are definitely pretty catchy and fun to listen to. I'll probably get that album and give it a careful listen later too :).

Wow, my to-listen library is growing... x_x

Do you know Beirut? It sounds like you might like them. I'll leave a video for you to listen. It's slightly NSFW, so I'll leave that warning.


Edit: LOL I tried to make initials for A Small House in the City and didn't realize they spell sh*t, hahahahaha!!
 
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KuroganeHammer

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I didn't make it to pro bracket because I tied with everyone else and the TO said some other guy should go in despite than I'm on a PR and he isn't :D
Small update, a mistake was made which meant I ended up in pro bracket

I will link stream times to my matches tomorrow

And other things like me villager side taunt and peach down smash irl
 
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