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[Berserker.]

IM SAD, YOU ALL NEED TO CHEER ME UP RIGHT NOW

I got this

 

[ぱみゅ]

Two days gone and around 15 pages late, OMG.

IM SAD, YOU ALL NEED TO CHEER ME UP RIGHT NOW

I've got nothing, but a shoulder to cry, if needed. c:

 

[Kofu]

I feel like one day, I'm going to drink too much and end up banning someone random on smashboards for "bieng lil ***** lol spamm"

Hopefully that won't happen for another 17 years or so.

So I was bored on For Glory, which means I usually pick a random character to screw around with. Since I've been hanging out here, I thought I'd try Zelda. Some of the highlights:
1. Suiciding by jumping and inputting Din's Fire in the opposite direction because the move carries her momentum and for some reason puts her into special fall (even for some characters I don't play I can see bad design choices and that's one of them).
2. Attempting to Farore's Wind a Kirby after sending him in the air and getting Stoned for my efforts.
3. Attempting to Farore's Wind someone by the edge and instead of hitting them or ledge canceling, I hit their shield an fall off and die.
4. Trying to FSmash Kirby and have him fall out of the attack at least twice (it might have been three times) in quick succession.

So yeah, I still can't use Zelda and still don't find her especially fun. What on earth so you guys do when the opponent doesn't approach or just doesn't care about her defensive game? It seems impossible.

 

[Meru.]

Wat is wat

Spoiler: I are Peach

I love this one cuz she's duckfacing

I want a poster of this pic and hang it next to my bed.

 

[Berserker.]

Hopefully that won't happen for another 17 years or so.

So I was bored on For Glory, which means I usually pick a random character to screw around with. Since I've been hanging out here, I thought I'd try Zelda. Some of the highlights:
1. Suiciding by jumping and inputting Din's Fire in the opposite direction because the move carries her momentum and for some reason puts her into special fall (even for some characters I don't play I can see bad design choices and that's one of them).
2. Attempting to Farore's Wind a Kirby after sending him in the air and getting Stoned for my efforts.
3. Attempting to Farore's Wind someone by the edge and instead of hitting them or ledge canceling, I hit their shield an fall off and die.
4. Trying to FSmash Kirby and have him fall out of the attack at least twice (it might have been three times) in quick succession.

So yeah, I still can't use Zelda and still don't find her especially fun. What on earth so you guys do when the opponent doesn't approach or just doesn't care about her defensive game? It seems impossible.

Ask Nairo. He's right over there

Zelda's fun for me because she's challenging to use. I think that's how I look at it. That and landing elevators feels amaziiiiing. I just work with what I have. I guess

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Spoiler: dont click this

Spoiler: ITS TOO LEWD

Spoiler: LAST CHANCE

Spoiler: I WARNED YOU

I got this

 

[Kofu]

Ask Nairo. He's right over there

Zelda's fun for me because she's challenging to use. I think that's how I look at it. That and landing elevators feels amaziiiiing. I just work with what I have. I guess

Ehhhh not really interested in using her, it's just a general question.

I have to wonder why her autocanceling DAir isn't talked about more. It's one of the few meteors that doesn't lag form a low jump and that's pretty cool.

 

[Berserker.]

Are you dropping Villager for Diddy yet?

Ehhhh not really interested in using her, it's just a general question.

I have to wonder why her autocanceling DAir isn't talked about more. It's one of the few meteors that doesn't lag form a low jump and that's pretty cool.

I actually use AC D-air more often at neutral. It also helps that it's ridiculously easy to sweet spot

 

[Lavani]

Elevators and dair seem like the main things that would draw me to Zelda in this game. Her dair really is legit. I feel like I'm trying to fight the character to get her to do things though, so I think I can safely say she isn't for me.

Unrelatedly, I didn't realize until today that Palutena's jab actually has knockback growth and isn't just weight based knockback like most jab1s; usmash actually true combos off it after a (rather late) point instead of just being a setup.

Meanwhile I am still flipflopping on resetting my X save with ~790 hours on it since my PC is nearly full and I really don't care about 95% of what's in it and I kinda want to change my trainer name and as long as QR codes exist I can remake whatever I truly care about in a few hours tops (though I have a pretty nice collection of non-hacked shinies among other things I'd be losing if I erased my data...)

also I just ran out of rum, send help ;_;

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Are you seriously considering replaying X?

Seriously???!!!!

I did that, backed up all of my friends in Pokebank and played as the qt grill to get her to look like Hilda (best protag fyi)

I dropped the game after the second badge because it just got too boring. My team at that point was Frogadier, Vivillon, Fletchinder, Skiddo, and Kirlia. I think I might just be growing out of Pokemon though. I got to the elite four in OR and couldnt be assed to finish it ;_;

 

[Berserker.]

My profile page in 3 pictures atm

Also, @Reserved has a cameo

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Golden TIme was an enjoyable anime, Koko is a cute.

Also I feel your avatar pain, I wish we were still allowed to fetch avatars from urls

 

[Furret]

just got my blanket out of the dryer it's super fluffy and warm

Are you seriously considering replaying X?

Seriously???!!!!

I did that, backed up all of my friends in Pokebank and played as the qt grill to get her to look like Hilda (best protag fyi)

I dropped the game after the second badge because it just got too boring. My team at that point was Frogadier, Vivillon, Fletchinder, Skiddo, and Kirlia. I think I might just be growing out of Pokemon though. I got to the elite four in OR and couldnt be ***** to finish it ;_;

I restarted so I could play in italian

 

[Lavani]

Are you seriously considering replaying X?

Seriously???!!!!

I did that, backed up all of my friends in Pokebank and played as the qt grill to get her to look like Hilda (best protag fyi)

I dropped the game after the second badge because it just got too boring. My team at that point was Frogadier, Vivillon, Fletchinder, Skiddo, and Kirlia. I think I might just be growing out of Pokemon though. I got to the elite four in OR and couldnt be ***** to finish it ;_;

yeah I'm not really looking forward to actually replaying the game again (gen 6 was by far the weakest maingame out of what I've played imo [all but gen 4/5]), I just want an easy reset for my PC and some other little things changed of varying importance that would require a restart

I guess Pokebank is an alternative but I don't think I care enough about Pokemon to invest in it, especially when I don't have gen 4/5 for transfer (a lot of the reason I hadn't played my X cart in a year; I really wanted a lot of pokebank stuff like Hyper Voice Gardevoir/Sylveon, Focus Punch Mawile, Giga Drain Volcarona, etc)

 

[Indigo Jeans]

just got my blanket out of the dryer it's super fluffy and warm

I restarted so I could play in italian

I tried playing it in French and it went swimmingly except for having to look up the names of moves to figure out which is which

Je n'avait pas pris c'en consideration

yeah I'm not really looking forward to actually replaying the game again (gen 6 was by far the weakest maingame out of what I've played imo [all but gen 4/5]), I just want an easy reset for my PC and some other little things changed of varying importance that would require a restart

I guess Pokebank is an alternative but I don't think I care enough about Pokemon to invest in it, especially when I don't have gen 4/5 for transfer (a lot of the reason I hadn't played my X cart in a year; I really wanted a lot of pokebank stuff like Hyper Voice Gardevoir/Sylveon, Focus Punch Mawile, Giga Drain Volcarona, etc)

I did this before injecting was a thing so oh well, I mean at least I got an onion fairy out of it.

Wait are you saying gen v was bad?! gorl...

SubPunch MMawile is legit, idk about Giga Drain Volcarona, what is that like? WoW/QD/GD/something else?

 

[Mocha]

Anyone know of any good dance/electronic/techno/trance songs? I need to expand my collection :]

 

[Berserker.]

Anyone know of any good dance/electronic/techno/trance songs? I need to expand my collection :]

Not sure if this qualifies. Just heard of it recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnNJGncFpSs

 

[Lavani]

I did this before injecting was a thing so oh well, I mean at least I got an onion fairy out of it.

Wait are you saying gen v was bad?! gorl...

SubPunch MMawile is legit, idk about Giga Drain Volcarona, what is that like? WoW/QD/GD/something else?

I'm saying I didn't play gens 4 or 5. Sapphire was the last game I'd played and the last one I planned to play until I got heavily pressured to get X.

Last I ran GD Volc it was Fiery Dance/GD/QD/HP Rock (for catching Talonflames on the switchin, among other things). Quiver boosted GD was usually good enough for healing to not need Roost. With GD it can beat things like Azu and Crawdaunt and it has the bulk to tank an Aqua Jet so that's a thing.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Anyone know of any good dance/electronic/techno/trance songs? I need to expand my collection :]

Look up the next artists and see if some fill your needs, I know them from the Pump it Up arcade, but some of them have features in more games:
BanYa, Yahpp (these two are tricky, both have lots of songs of very variated genres), DOIN, SHK (or SoundHolicK), Synthwulf, M2U, MAX, Zircon, Paul Bazooka, and those are the ones I have on the top of my mind.


EDIT: @ Berserker. thank you, I now remember Matduke as well

 

[Indigo Jeans]

I'm saying I didn't play gens 4 or 5. Sapphire was the last game I'd played and the last one I planned to play until I got heavily pressured to get X.

Last I ran GD Volc it was Fiery Dance/GD/QD/HP Rock (for catching Talonflames on the switchin, among other things). Quiver boosted GD was usually good enough for healing to not need Roost. With GD it can beat things like Azu and Crawdaunt and it has the bulk to tank an Aqua Jet so that's a thing.

I see. Well the good news is you have good taste in versions B)

Oh right, I forgot Volcarona got roost. Man I like Talonflame as a bulky fire type better, though Volcarona does have the ability to not get ****ed in rain

Wait do you play on cart or on sim

 

[Berserker.]

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2xqzrg/customs_rulesets_evo_and_smash_4s_future_why_we/

Also

I really hope Diddy gets nerfed when Mewtwo is released, otherwise GG smash 4 metagame in a year or two.

— Liquid | Dabuz (@DabuzSenpai) March 2, 2015

 

[Spirst]

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2xqzrg/customs_rulesets_evo_and_smash_4s_future_why_we/

Also

I really hope Diddy gets nerfed when Mewtwo is released, otherwise GG smash 4 metagame in a year or two.

— Liquid | Dabuz (@DabuzSenpai) March 2, 2015

Silly billy, we all know it's Greninja who is going to get nerfed.

 

[MDAVE]

Yeah, yeah y'all can beat CPU's lvl 8/9 without receiving any damage.. Cool, cool..
BUT.
You wanna know when CPU's really start respecting you? Yesterday both CPU Charizard & Little Mac jumped off the stage three times with Side B. (Couldn't be that I taught them, considering I never do that)
That must have been the most hilarious thing my cpu's have ever done.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2xqzrg/customs_rulesets_evo_and_smash_4s_future_why_we/

Also

I really hope Diddy gets nerfed when Mewtwo is released, otherwise GG smash 4 metagame in a year or two.

— Liquid | Dabuz (@DabuzSenpai) March 2, 2015

I see no issue with this opinion :^)

 

[Mocha]

Silly billy, we all know it's Greninja who is going to get nerfed.

N-no, don't jinx it ;____;

@ MDAVE Once I had a CPU spike me at 20%, then he tea-bagged for like half a minute straight. I think Sakurai was on to something.

 

[IsmaR]

I used Diddy tonight.

Literally the first Hoo Hah I did in like 3 matches caused a ragequit.

 

[Berserker.]

People kinda dismissed Diddy Kong's customs too early. Banana customs are still dumb in their own special way. Back flip kick hits really ****ing HARD. His neutral B and up B customs are garbage

 

[Lavani]

I see. Well the good news is you have good taste in versions B)

Oh right, I forgot Volcarona got roost. Man I like Talonflame as a bulky fire type better, though Volcarona does have the ability to not get ****ed in rain

Wait do you play on cart or on sim

Damn straight B)

Talonflame's generally better in gen 6's meta I think, unless ORAS really changed things up. Volcarona had some cool uses earlier in the gen before things started getting banned though; it could check both phys and special M-Luke and any M-Mawile not running Stone Edge with one set, for one, but bug stab was pretty trash from what I remember and bulky Talonflame having WoW/Taunt/priority Roost was a pretty big deal.

Last time I actually played on cart was like January 2014 (for the aforementioned issues of no access to things I wanted from Pokebank). Last time I played on sim was around a week after the M-Mawile ban.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

Im not gonna lie, I stopped playing on cart in like october because someone ****ing fissured MY ENTIRE TEAM in 3v3 singles. Like, wtf, every single fissure hit on the first try. I was so salty, so so salty. Also I prefer 6v6 singles so its like, bye

Bulky talonflame is godlike, I remember tanking rotom-w's volt switches and hydro misses once, who even gives a ****. Bulky lopunny is also fun in tiers where its not **** since BP + Cosmic Power are legal with Drain Punch now.

I haven't played on sim I think since MMawile and Genesect got banned from monosteel teams. I cant use three of my favourite mons anymore, whats the point ;_;7

 

[MDAVE]

Anyone know of any good dance/electronic/techno/trance songs? I need to expand my collection :]

Zircon is one of my favorites which does feel quite at home at some of those genres. Their music was used a lot back in the day for Brawl mods.

I was also looking through my favorites to see if I could find anything useful or even slightly good for you to listen to, but instead I found this fanmade music custom song that I really liked back in the PKMN B/W days. :D http://youtu.be/uxLC0fmiNZU

 

[Lavani]

People kinda dismissed Diddy Kong's customs too early. Banana customs are still dumb in their own special way. Back flip kick hits really ****ing HARD. His neutral B and up B customs are garbage

The other bananas may be usable, but they aren't exactly better than the default one. I'd actually be hard pressed to ever take a different sideB for him either, the alternatives are way worse for recovery/B reverse shenanigans and Back Flip Kick removes the command grab option from it.

I was screwing around against a 1123 CPU Diddy today and my opinion of upB 2 went up quite a bit, I'm not actually sure if its vertical is worse than the default and I could see giving up horizontal recovery for its power. It also seemed damn near impossible to edgeguard (as Meta Knight) but I might've just been sloppy.

I tried to gimp him once with a stolen banana but Battering Banana's vertical knockback just saved him instead ;_;

Im not gonna lie, I stopped playing on cart in like october because someone ****ing fissured MY ENTIRE TEAM in 3v3 singles. Like, wtf, every single fissure hit on the first try. I was so salty, so so salty. Also I prefer 6v6 singles so its like, bye

Bulky talonflame is godlike, I remember tanking rotom-w's volt switches and hydro misses once, who even gives a ****. Bulky lopunny is also fun in tiers where its not **** since BP + Cosmic Power are legal with Drain Punch now.

I haven't played on sim I think since MMawile and Genesect got banned from monosteel teams. I cant use three of my favourite mons anymore, whats the point ;_;7

I remember that happening to me in round 87 of Battle Maison once. That ****ing Brightpowder Walrein with Sheer Cold+Fissure...

Yeah stuff needs to be offensively specced to actually take out bulky tflame. I remember a game where my tflame ran it back 1v3 against a Heatran/Magneton/something (Hippowdon?) team because nothing had enough offensive presence to outDPS it and wisp+taunt+priority roost let it wear them all down. Tflame is my gen 6 waifu

 

[Berserker.]

The other bananas may be usable, but they aren't exactly better than the default one. I'd actually be hard pressed to ever take a different sideB for him either, the alternatives are way worse for recovery/B reverse shenanigans and Back Flip Kick removes the command grab option from it.

I was screwing around against a 1123 CPU Diddy today and my opinion of upB 2 went up quite a bit, I'm not actually sure if its vertical is worse than the default and I could see giving up horizontal recovery for its power. It also seemed damn near impossible to edgeguard (as Meta Knight) but I might've just been sloppy.

I tried to gimp him once with a stolen banana but Battering Banana's vertical knockback just saved him instead ;_;

Up B 2... Eh, I don't know. Maybe I should mess around with it more

I'm still trying to find some random tricks with back flip. I'm not going to dismiss it yet. It has an "interesting" design but well, I'll see....

Battering bananas are my thing though. Battering banana to d-air or any aerial or back flip kick? Cool. I should test if you can get up B 2 to connect from battering banana

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

I haven't played on sim I think since MMawile and Genesect got banned from monosteel teams. I cant use three of my favourite mons anymore, whats the point ;_;7

Yeah, Mawile is one of my top 10 favorite Pokemon. Seeing her look so viable and then getting crushed with her ban made me lose a lot of interest.

Granted, I have plenty of Pokemon I can still use, but I really like Mawile though...

Might start going by VGC rules because Smogon is starting to disappoint me.

 

[McKnightlíght]

Smogon is no longer good for competitive pokemon.

 

[Furret]

Yeah, Mawile is one of my top 10 favorite Pokemon. Seeing her look so viable and then getting crushed with her ban made me lose a lot of interest.

Granted, I have plenty of Pokemon I can still use, but I really like Mawile though...

Might start going by VGC rules because Smogon is starting to disappoint me.

Smogon is no longer good for competitive pokemon.

why I feel like pokemon should never be a competitive game

or even

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Morning zeldas​

 

[Macchiato]

I see no issue with this opinion :^)

I completely agree with this, as other characters meta advance a little his will a lot due to more people that main him. If he's not nerfed, it'll be brawl again. I kinda see it going brawls direction, Sakurai doesn't have interest in making another balance patch as much as I wanted to get one. Sakurai honestly doesn't really care about the community. It was nintendo of America who was sponsoring APEX.

 

[TTTTTsd]

FTW Smogon rules have worked for me and my friends but that's because my OU team = the most fun. Y'all should try it, I have actual jerk Mamoswine, Kyurem-B the boss hoss, etc.

If Kyurem-B is VGC legal I'll play it. He might not be my favorite design (Eelektross) but he's my favorite Pokemon to run because of his sheer power and will to succeed. If he had a better movepool he'd totally be ubers though. I attribute this to Ice being more of a good special attacking type than physical attacking, although a strong physical Ice move being new and exclusive to Kyurem-B would fix this and make me a very happy man, you could say....

 

[evmaxy54]

How do you deal with Pit? Cuz I have no clue ;_;

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

How do you deal with Pit? Cuz I have no clue ;_;

I play a dirt Pit so I can't help lmao