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[Macchiato]

Tingle is horrible in Hyrule Warriors. He takes the worst character award away from zant.

I love twili midna though.

 

[Ffamran]

Are there any falco specific ATs I should be aware of?

Not a lot so far aside from frame canceled Dairs. There's Fair to footstool that zCyRo found out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zQksk1c50U. It's still being tested last I heard.

Alongside pivot Falco Phantasms, there's these two which are situational and read-dependent. Thank Bonk! for this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lGSyxyPYl9Q and Snipnigth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ffJebEF8dQs.

A Ganondorf figured that you could D-throw to Bair at higher percents. That's about 6% from the grab, 13% per Bair or 7% if it's a late hit, so 19% or 13%: http://smashboards.com/threads/d-throw-to-back-air.387302/.

Try doing RAR Bairs if you can, but Falco doesn't have Sheik, Ike, Wolf, or hell, even Link's range and/or air speed. @Shaya and @Conda mentioned that Falco can make use of foxtrotting and fast fall short hops as a way to move around. I mentioned this before, but run off aerials are good, especially Sonic, Toon Link, Ike, Peach, and Falco's Fair, Ganondorf's Uair and Fair. For stage spiking, a run off Bair will do the trick, but Falco's range might be something to get used to. And as usual, look through the stickied threads.

On Shaya's thoughts: http://smashboards.com/search/1285234/?q=falco&o=date&c[user][0]=64230.

Falco loses to things because his disadvantaged state is pretty bad. And sometimes his jab doesn't work like it should (i.e. when you get PUNISHED FOR IT ON HIT vughhhh).
I would say using universal techs is fundamental-based play.
Fox trot away with Falco and tell me other characters have better options. Just saying ahead of time, you won't be convincing me otherwise. I'll give you Sheik.
When you turn pivot you can slide into any move forward. Jab and down tilt.
His turn pivot makes his pivot jump exceptionally 'fast' in horizontal movement. SH FF with Falco is absurd.

Falco's consistent combo game is the real reason to use him, if I'm going to talk about weaknesses, it's not rewards/follow ups, that's for certain.
Like, Falco's combo game is second only to ZSS in terms of characters I play. Falco has a much easier time getting his grab and his tilts are significantly safer compared to her (bar ftilt, but I'd still say Falco's is better).
Also he has one of the best up airs. In the "let's play horizontal uairs only the game" *qq from Diddy*

Also Falco's explosive laser is was my preferred custom (probably still is, but the slight buffs + match ups like Sheik where you'd like the game to be about her approaching you require it) because it gives him stupid edge guarding pressure and synergises with void reflector and in general is a great frame trap tool. All the weaknesses I just read from people were kinda funny.

Falco has a really good walk speed, perfect pivot and he probably has the largest turn pivot in the game.
Mobility doesn't ever seem to be my issue with Falco. He technically forces the approach against just about everyone.

I feel as if my only struggles with Falco are against characters with similar range (or more) at better speeds.
It's a short list tbh.

There's also videos you could watch, like ZeRo's commentary on him or Shofu's. Basically, lurk more.

Extremely off topic but I'm playing Melee on my computer and tell me why Peach decided to get the worst weave job in Nintendo history.....

There is nothing "Sweet" about those highlights.

Talk about a wicked weave.

 

[Lavani]

Today's episode of It Came From Roll Glory

names withheld to protect the innocent

 

[Locuan]

@ Locuan Explain why dolphin jump is really good

Well, it's a better vertical recovery but doesn't have a hitbox as most people will state but the primary reason is that you can go for way riskier edgeguards and still make it back on stage.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

So I tried out three characters today for fun

Iggy honestly plays way different than I thought he would.

I spent most of my matches trying to get a 9 with G&W. I also don't understand why he is so friggin light.

Nope, couldn't get the hang of her
I'll stick to

 

[Jaguar360]

Thinking about Brawl got me thinking about games before Brawl. Who all did yew gorls play in previous games?

64:
Melee:
Brawl:
Sm4sh ( / denotes cutoff for who I'm taking seriously): /

64 (I'm so bad at this):
Melee: /
Brawl: /
Project M:
Sm4sh: /

Yay, more lists!
General rule of thumb is to always play at least one Pokemon in each iteration.

Indeed. Mons are fun in general. Even Jiggs, the only Pokemon I've never mained, has been quite entertaining in each game I've picked her in.
And lists are fun :3

I ALMOST FELL IN LOVE WITH DR MARIO

Then I tried to recover :^(

His DPS is really impressive. His moveset is actually great (because he's a clone of Mario). I personally like his f-air better than Mario's because it hits HARD

I almost cried when I tried to recover for the first few times :'(
Then I started to improve with my Tornado mashing and save my double jump for later more often. I still screw myself over so many times though. I wish Super Sheet gave Doc horizontal distance and that I didn't accidentally fastfall my down B's so much.
/deardiary

X(THIS PROBABLY EXISTS I FEEL)

DID I RUSTLE YOUR SHIPPING JIMMIES YET, GORLS!?! :^)

Jimmies slightly rustled

I mentioned it earlier but it still makes me giggle

#360noscope

 

[Lavani]

I also don't understand why he is so friggin light.

You'd be light too if you were thinner than paper.

 

[Kofu]

About All-Star: I was watching Cosmo's stream and he said that indirect attacks are not affected by the damage reduction. This basically means projectiles, Palutena's USmash, all of Olimar's Pikmin attacks, and Flare Blitz for some unknown reason.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

You'd be light too if you were thinner than paper.

Mopcina agrees

 

[Furret]

About All-Star: I was watching Cosmo's stream and he said that indirect attacks are not affected by the damage reduction. This basically means projectiles, Palutena's USmash, all of Olimar's Pikmin attacks, and Flare Blitz for some unknown reason.

Flare blitz spawns an explosion, It's like using a bomb mask

 

[kenniky]

Even Jiggs, the only Pokemon I've never mained

the only Pokemon I've never mained

64 (I'm so bad at this):
Melee: /
Brawl: /
Project M:
Sm4sh: /

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EDIT: lol that third quote is broken or something

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Off topic story time: So I'm playing Palutena on FG and I did her stripper pole taunt as I took my opponent's stock. Just at that moment, my mom decided to walk in, look at the TV screen, and die laughing.

The Goddess of Light: Family Friendly Entertainment for all

 

[Ffamran]

Flare blitz spawns an explosion, It's like using a bomb mask

Charizard needs to shield before using Flare Blitz.

 

[Rizen]

Tingle was okay in MM but after that he got weirder. I wish he'd stop making cameos.

 

[UkeNicky]

Off topic story time: So I'm playing Palutena on FG and I did her stripper pole taunt as I took my opponent's stock. Just at that moment, my mom decided to walk in, look at the TV screen, and die laughing.

The Goddess of Light: Family Friendly Entertainment for all

Omg did your mom laugh like her too xD ?
That would've been extra priceless

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Omg did your mom laugh like her too xD ?
That would've been extra priceless

Omg I wish, that would've been amazing

Btw gorls, I just did something amazing on Roll Glory and I'm making a gif of it right now :^)

 

[Berserker.]

WAIT OH SNAP, IT'S TGC TODAY

NEED THE STREAM LINK

 

[Jaguar360]

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EDIT: lol that third quote is broken or something

Welp, time to go play that thing somewhere other than struggling in its Target Test now. Or I can just be lazy and remove that Jigglypuff sentence huehue

 

[Berserker.]

There's a team there in TGC called "Manu Ginobili" and "Tony Parker"

lmao

 

[Macchiato]

Any sis wanna play?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Oh how I love Roll Glory :^)

 

[Deleted member]

Oh how I love Roll Glory :^)

Ew that Link was gross.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Ew that Link was gross.

aren't all For Glory Links?

 

[Deleted member]

aren't all For Glory Links?

Well I play For Glory with Link.

And I'm easily better than whoever that was.

So are a number of other people who main Link and also happen to use him on For Glory.

So no.

:|

 

[UkeNicky]

Oh how I love Roll Glory :^)

This made me fall off my chair.

 

[Lavani]

I remember at release when all the Links I saw were beast with zairs and bomb lag cancels and stuff

what happened to those links

Oh how I love Roll Glory :^)

Huh, the boomerang doesn't change direction when you reflect it? Amazing.

10/10 gorl, good job

 

[Ffamran]

Ew that Link was gross.

Hell yeah! Look at his sick moves!

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Well I play For Glory with Link.

And I'm easily better than whoever that was.

So are a number of other people who main Link and also happen to use him on For Glory.

So no.

:|

It was a joke about how many bad people are on FG but ok

I'm glad to hear you're *actually* good with him, I enjoy watching Links who actually know how to play him well

I remember at release when all the Links I saw were beast with zairs and bomb lag cancels and stuff

what happened to those links


Huh, the boomerang doesn't change direction when you reflect it? Amazing.

10/10 gorl, good job

The bomb lag cancelling was taken out in one of the updates i kno bc I dropped Peach bc of that and i cry evrytim :^(

 

[SBphiloz4]

Any sis wanna play?

I can play on my Gamepad for a bit lol. We can do a First to 3 set. :^)

 

[Deleted member]

I remember at release when all the Links I saw were beast with zairs and bomb lag cancels and stuff

what happened to those links


Huh, the boomerang doesn't change direction when you reflect it? Amazing.

10/10 gorl, good job

The boomerang will only change direction if it is reflected as it is moving forward, any "reflection" as it is returning will only change who the windbox affects, as it did in the video.

Hell yeah! Look at his sick moves!

Ew no not Toon Link.

 

[Fernosaur]

So this happened.


My friend named Spenser: "At least you don't spell my name with a c."

Me: "...Cpenser?"

Spenser: ........


I swear, I'm the most stupid human being.

 

[Lavani]

The bomb lag cancelling was taken out in one of the updates

Well I know that much

I was just hoping people didn't actually drop him because of that being removed

 

[Macchiato]

I can play on my Gamepad for a bit lol. We can do a First to 3 set. :^)

Ok sis wait what happened to your controller though? Also rooms open

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Well I know that much

I was just hoping people didn't actually drop him because of that being removed

Ohhhh I see what you mean. Well there's still some good Links that go to tournaments like Kirinblaze and BrimeZ

 

[Ffamran]

I remember at release when all the Links I saw were beast with zairs and bomb lag cancels and stuff

what happened to those links


Huh, the boomerang doesn't change direction when you reflect it? Amazing.

10/10 gorl, good job

The same thing that happened in Dark Souls multiplayer.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Ok sis wait what happened to your controller though? Also rooms open

Oh, TV's not available, and I just need a quick refresher and break from my midterm studying, hence the short matches I can offer. If it's too short, we can do a FT5, but only if one of us sucks hard today (ie most likely me ;p )

 

[Ffamran]

Ew no not Toon Link.

Aww, but Toon Link's a little, innocent kid... with a sword and shield... and bombs... and arrows... and a boomerang... Yeah, never mind.

I still wished that Mayor Toon Link was an alt.

 

[FullMoon]

X(THIS PROBABLY EXISTS I FEEL)

Hey, depending of how it's done it could work.

I would edit this picture but I'm feeling lazy so =P

 

[Soul.]

I dropped Toon Link as a main once 1.0.4 happened. I would still use him if BLC were a thing still.
Now he just feels meh.

 

[SBphiloz4]

@ Macchiato , we'll make it a FT5, I have some extra time. c: