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[Macchiato]

Everyone vote wii fit up on that list.
http://smashboards.com/threads/swf-...t-final-vote-before-creation-of-tiers.379736/
MESS

Community: *votes wii fit down because they assuming shes bad cuz range without even knowing much*
Me:

Quick poll: This list, or the community voted one?

That list

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

All right, my NNID is INFullMoon

Sent it. Who will be hosting?

 

[FullMoon]

I remember making my own tier list but I kinda scrapped it because I couldn't write a reasoning for the positions of all characters in it.

Sent it. Who will be hosting?

I can.

 

[Rickster]

bruh
play me and I'll teach you the ways of the Pikachu... oh wait, Wii U right. dammit
inb4 Shredder

I know how decent Pikachus play, and I still hate fighting them, lol. A friend of mine has him as one of her mains.

 

[Soul.]

I know how decent Pikachus play, and I still hate fighting them, lol. A friend of mine has him as one of her mains.

But can they Quick Attack OoS?

 

[Phenomiracle]

Amusingly enough I already started to talk to some people at college today, it helps that they go the same way as me when I'm going home. We're not quite friends yet, but who knows, maybe.

And it begins.

Don't want to jinx it, but this is the start everyone takes. Your social life will be nice and fluid.

 

[Rizen]

[collapse=rant]
This actually was a great piece of advise, Locke posted something really interesting that addresses one of the most interesting parts of depression:

My mind was overflowing and I blocked out. I was thinking many whatifs and whatnots, within them, death.
I'm not saying I wanted or thought or planned suicide, I'm not even like "BWAAA I'M SO SAD I'M GONNA DIE!", but it popped in my mind simply as a though.
While I was riding my bike I almost began wildly accelerating for no reason until I realized "what am I doing?", moved to the side of the road and began breathing deeply/almost crying.
That showed me that I am very unstable right now (though I try to stay composed), but I am REALLY scared of another episode. But "keep breathing" is a great piece of advise right now because it was what saved me yesterday, and will probably save me later.


EDIT: I do not mean to say I'm contemplating suicide, I definitely do not want that, just want to rant[/collapse]

Sorry you're so depressed. I'm not doing well either tbh. Taking it one day at a time is important too. I hope you feel better.

 

[kenniky]

Guys. We gotta start Operation Newfall to get NoA to give us the original n3DS. Operations Rainfall (localizing Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower) and Moonfall (Majora's Mask 3D) worked so why not Newfall?

 

[Soul.]

Guys. We gotta start Operation Newfall to get NoA to give us the original n3DS. Operations Rainfall (localizing Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower) and Moonfall (Majora's Mask 3D) worked so why not Newfall?

Yes, with the bonus of porting The Last Story and lolpandorastower for the New 3DS.

 

[Lorde]

Guys. We gotta start Operation Newfall to get NoA to give us the original n3DS. Operations Rainfall (localizing Xenoblade, Last Story, and Pandora's Tower) and Moonfall (Majora's Mask 3D) worked so why not Newfall?

We can start riots over a fancy piece of plastic. It'll be great.

With MM3D, did the fanbase actually have anything to do with the making of it? As in, did Nintendo make it because the fans wanted it so badly?

_

I'm going to make a custom palette swap for Melee Peach in a few minutes, gorls. What color hair and dress should I do?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Gorls, I voted up Zeldamazing, Samus, and best husbando in the community tier list :^)

 

[spiderfreak1011]

I remember making my own tier list but I kinda scrapped it because I couldn't write a reasoning for the positions of all characters in it.



I can.

Given how balanced the roster is, i'm not surprised. We probably just need a top 15-20 for the roster for the time being anyway.

 

[Rizen]

Why is Mii Brawler so high up?

 

[Soul.]

We can start riots over a fancy piece of plastic. It'll be great.

With MM3D, did the fanbase actually have anything to do with the making of it? As in, did Nintendo make it because the fans wanted it so badly?

_

I'm going to make a custom palette swap for Melee Peach in a few minutes, gorls. What color hair and dress should I do?

Pikachu faceplates pls. They're releasing that thing on Europe in April 2nd. NoA when.

They made it shortly after OoT 3D so I'd say no. They were aware of the outcry tho.

 

[Rickster]

But can they Quick Attack OoS?

Yes, they can actually.
They've been with him since the 64 days.

 

[Lavani]

Why is Mii Brawler so high up?

Highest air speed in the game (higher than Speed Shulk), solid frame data, possibly the best horizontal recovery, and the absurdly broken move known as Helicopter Kick.

 

[Soul.]

Yes, they can actually.
They've been with him since the 64 days.

Oh, that's good to know.

Highest air speed in the game (higher than Speed Shulk), solid frame data, possibly the best horizontal recovery, and the absurdly broken move known as Helicopter Kick.

lmao that's ridiculous yo

 

[kenniky]

Highest air speed in the game (higher than Speed Shulk), solid frame data, possibly the best horizontal recovery, and the absurdly broken move known as Helicopter Kick.

Wait I thought Piston Punch was the broken one
Mii Brawler has pretty trash vertical recovery though

 

[Rizen]

Oh wow, I didn't know you could chain helicopter kicks. IDK much about the Miis.

 

[Lavani]

Wait I thought Piston Punch was the broken one
Mii Brawler has pretty trash vertical recovery though

Piston Punch has an exploit like Roy's reverse upB that can 0-death Jigglypuff, and light characters on platforms

Helicopter Kick is absurd legitimately.

and yeah his vertical recovery is trash, but the horizontal's good enough that you have no excuse to not make it back unless you get spiked.

 

[Ffamran]

Oh wow, I didn't know you could chain helicopter kicks. IDK much about the Miis.

Isn't that Mii Brawler's Fair being chained before Helicopter Kick?

 

[Lavani]

Isn't that Mii Brawler's Fair being chained before Helicopter Kick?

This.

dthrow>fair(>fair)>Helicopter Kick combos and kills starting around 20% iirc...or maybe it only worked that early because of rage in that instance, I'm not terribly versed in Miis.

 

[Macchiato]

Highest air speed in the game (higher than Speed Shulk), solid frame data, possibly the best horizontal recovery, and the absurdly broken move known as Helicopter Kick.

Great mobility, solid frame data, possibly the best ledge game, and the absurdly broken move known as nair.

Then why is Wii Fit so low on that Community "Official" Tier List?

 

[evmaxy54]

Highest air speed in the game (higher than Speed Shulk), solid frame data, possibly the best horizontal recovery, and the absurdly broken move known as Helicopter Kick.

A.K.A top tier banter agreed

 

[Lorde]

There's really no way to explain this:
#first custom palette

 

[Lavani]

Great mobility

She's around the middle of the cast on all three counts of walk speed, run speed, and air speed.

solid frame data

Also pretty average, with the glaring flaw that she doesn't have a quick aerial to use to escape juggles; kind of like Greninja's data with worse smashes (in startup, range, and disjoint) and without the wtfhuge grab range

possibly the best ledge game

Skeptical about this, though I don't think it's bad particularly with customs on.

and the absurdly broken move known as nair.

Its damage and combo potential is pretty good, its startup and hitboxes are not. There are plenty of other nairs I'd rather have.

I will agree she's better than her spot on the community list, but there is very little on the community list I agree with to begin with.

 

[Soul.]

bruh i'd rather have a frame 3 nair that is useful for combos, out of shield and after QACs

 

[Lorde]

bruh i'd rather have a frame 3 nair that is useful for combos, out of shield

ikr Luma's nair is a great move in general

 

[Cenizas]

a frame 3 nair that is useful for combos, out of shield

Hello.

 

[Macchiato]

She's around the middle of the cast on all three counts of walk speed, run speed, and air speed.

Specifically around 20 which is pretty good.

Also pretty average, with the glaring flaw that she doesn't have a quick aerial to use to escape juggles; kind of like Greninja's data with worse smashes (in startup, range, and disjoint) and without the wtfhuge grab range

And multi direction hitboxes great for countering rolls. I don't get why they did that to her grab, Sakurai yew made this game for filthy casuals didn't yew?

Skeptical about this, though I don't think it's bad particularly with customs on.

I think it's amazing, the header makes it amazingly safe to get back to the ledge. Also, from a ledge trump wii fit trainer can use the header headbutt to spike since they won't have invincibility when they regrab it

Its damage and combo potential is pretty good, its startup and hitboxes are not. There are plenty of other nairs I'd rather have.

It's landing lag is really low, its pretty good for a nair. Also it has kill set ups like uair.

I will agree she's better than her spot on the community list, but there is very little on the community list I agree with to begin with.

Like Dark pit that low? I can't tell if that is worse than EventHubs

 

[Soul.]

Hello.

 

[kenniky]

without the wtfhuge grab range

Don't you mean wfthuge

Also does anyone actually want to help support Operation Newfall? I'd like those Xenoblade faceplates; plus I have an original 3DS and I don't want a bigger model screwing with my hands

 

[Rickster]

Sometimes I think my connection quality standards are too high for Roll Glory. I leave my opponent at least 50% of the time after the first match, lol.

/dearsmashdiary

 

[FullMoon]

Good games, @ CatRaccoonBL

Gotta stop now because I'm getting tired. Apologies for the lag.

 

[Ffamran]

Speaking of Nairs, Sonic's Nair kills, right? Then what is Pikachu's Nair used for and what was Wolf's Nair used for in Brawl? Are they more like interrupters and free damage? Pikachu uses Uair and Bair more for combos and Dair and Fair are more kill moves, right? Wolf was in the same boat, except Bair and Fair were both kill and combo moves while Dair was more for meteoring.

 

[Soul.]

Speaking of Nairs, Sonic's Nair kills, right? Then what is Pikachu's Nair used for and what was Wolf's Nair used for in Brawl? Are they more like interrupters and free damage? Pikachu uses Uair and Bair more for combos and Dair and Fair are more kill moves, right? Wolf was in the same boat, except Bair and Fair were both kill and combo moves while Dair was more for meteoring.

NAir on Pikachu is used to get out of whatever next to it. Therefore it's a good OoS option and/or get off me move.
edit: In Brawl it was also a good KO option.

In Smash 4 it's also used as a combo tool for when the opponent doesn't DI or DI's toward Pikachu, leading to a FF FAir. lol

 

[Lavani]

Speaking of Nairs, Sonic's Nair kills, right? Then what is Pikachu's Nair used for and what was Wolf's Nair used for in Brawl? Are they more like interrupters and free damage? Pikachu uses Uair and Bair more for combos and Dair and Fair are more kill moves, right? Wolf was in the same boat, except Bair and Fair were both kill and combo moves while Dair was more for meteoring.

I...think Sonic's nair is really just used for damage racking? I don't think it kills until pretty late, but it does 12% and combos from spindash.

Pikachu's nair is good at breaking juggles since it's 3f, ソウル covered it already though. Pika's fair is used for combos too, landing with ff fair leaves enough time to follow up with anything...I think 7f or faster? I know ff fair>dash attack is a kill combo if you're frame perfect, anyway.

 

[Berserker.]

Why in the hell does ultimate uppercut do **** knockback in mid-air? O_o

 

[Rickster]

Speaking of Nairs, Sonic's Nair kills, right? Then what is Pikachu's Nair used for and what was Wolf's Nair used for in Brawl? Are they more like interrupters and free damage? Pikachu uses Uair and Bair more for combos and Dair and Fair are more kill moves, right? Wolf was in the same boat, except Bair and Fair were both kill and combo moves while Dair was more for meteoring.

I didn't main Wolf, but I think an landing nair could go into various attacks. You could also use it for a weird form of edgeguarding since it kinda drags the opponent down with you. Then the interrupting thing you mentioned. Those were the things I used it for, at least.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Good games, @ CatRaccoonBL

Gotta stop now because I'm getting tired. Apologies for the lag.

Good games to you as well. Very amazing Greninja. I wish I was decent with Rosalina. I may actually have to consider dropping her, but I won't any time soon since I'm faithful to her.

At least my villager and jigglypuff are decent enough. Also fully support wuhu island as well. <3