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[BJN39]

So what's the current discussion about Zelderp thus far?

Use Farore's Wind ehryday. OOS > KO @ way earlier than your moves.

It flipping KO'ed a pika that was VI'ing correctly at like, 25%.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Typical discussion of what makes Phantom bad. Oh, and Din's Fire. And also her custom moves. And most of her other moves too.

... So basically why Zelda is bad.

 

[Milky.]

Use Farore's Wind ehryday. OOS > KO @ way earlier than your moves.

It flipping KO'ed a pika that was VI'ing correctly at like, 25%.

lolwat..

Have you guys tried to nair cancel into Farore's wind around 70%~ish? I talked to Mocha about this, it's usually a guaranteed hit if you space and time it correctly. And KO's if sweet spotted right (Which isn't hard)

Typical discussion of what makes Phantom bad. Oh, and Din's Fire. And also her custom moves. And most of her other moves too.

... So basically why Zelda is bad.

I kinda like Phantom, it helps her recover. And I'd take Phantom any day over a down b I never use (transforming into Sheik)

 

[BJN39]

lolwat..

Have you guys tried to nair cancel into Farore's wind around 70%~ish? I talked to Mocha about this, it's usually a guaranteed hit if you space and time it correctly. And KO's if sweet spotted right (Which isn't hard)
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Actually @ Alacion brought it up and its craziness. He even had a GIF of it or something. I love the idea of Zelda having SOMETHING to be feared.

 

[Milky.]

Actually @ Alacion brought it up and its craziness. He even had a GIF of it or something. I love the idea of Zelda having SOMETHING to be feared.

She had her OP lightning kicks

I think once everyone has a general understanding of the game, KO'ing with Farore's won't be as easy. Of course us Zelda mains will also step up our game and find mix-ups with Farore's

 

[Mocha]

No problem, bud (:

And idk, we're kinda talking about all sorts of things regarding Zelda, and since is the social thread, it's been a pretty much general chat. Milky, go buy yourself an HDMI cable (they should cost too much) so that we can play Smash U lol

 

[Phenomiracle]

Why do I have this terrible feeling Zelda's meta will hardly progress, if at all? Someone slap me.

 

[micstar615]

At least we have patches guys! Patches! Maybe next time she'll get a 0.5% FTilt buff <3

We should seriously be able to store Phantom.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

them off stage faroes kills had me like O.O. Zelda's effects are so good looking on the Wii u. makes me wish i didn't have to wait for it.

At least we have patches guys! Patches! Maybe next time she'll get a 0.5% FTilt buff <3

We should seriously be able to store Phantom.

or at least make phantom not reflectable....or cut the lag time. hell i'd be happy if i could move the moment i let phantom fly because then i could really take charge even if it could still be reflected. imagine running with phantom side by side...

i just want Nair to auto cancel, is that too much to ask for?

 

[GameAngel64]

I am not liking the weird stuff Nayru's Love is doing on the Wii U version. What's the deal there?

 

[Alacion]

Lol'd when I saw Rosalina Gravitational Pull Zelda's Phantom. At least there's no cooldown to reuse Phantom...

 

[BJN39]

Why do I have this terrible feeling Zelda's meta will hardly progress, if at all? Someone slap me.

Because you must've secretly known what was going on in the Brawl Zelda boards for the past 4 years.

*Looks at Fuujin*

 

[Milky.]

Don't know why you all complaining about how terribad Zelda is... She's been placing well in tournaments so far I heard. I think Nairo won a few tournaments with her as well

HAVE A LITTLE FAITH.

No problem, bud (:

And idk, we're kinda talking about all sorts of things regarding Zelda, and since is the social thread, it's been a pretty much general chat. Milky, go buy yourself an HDMI cable (they should cost too much) so that we can play Smash U lol

Getting the HDMI cable isn't the problem, it's getting the game with the bundle gahh

 

[SBphiloz4]

It's not that we are complaining that Zelda is bad, it's more or less we know that she IS bad. But that doesn't stop us from using her. We just have to work our butts off to make her win tourneys. Nairo's doing well as of now, so here's hoping that this is momentum for things to come with our princess in the future. c:

We just have to first accept the character we have in front of us (a bad character) in order to improve. Otherwise, we can't go anywhere. Then, we can place some faith in her and make her work.

 

[Kriscake]

The worst thing is facing opponents that know and exploit Zelda's weaknesses. I find I get so infuriated when I am outspaced/camped by the better players and our approach options are limited now that RC pivot range was nerfed and the delay on even the short phantom is a tad too long to go for that option sometimes.

Storable phantom would at least give us that bit of self defence from wall of air assault or being outrolled by super armor mac. Also hate how Fsmash is too easilly DI'd out of. Zelda needs some more reliability buffs to her kit.

Still love her character and playstyle though. I will strive to get better with these thoughts in mind...

 

[JigglyZelda003]

just so that i know it's just me, for anyone else who's had the 3ds version does it freeze your system often? like it doesn't even force close you have to hard reset it.

I've had this problem from launch and while it seemed to cool down and not happen as often, but the past week every 1-6 matches my game is freezing...and its annoying me to no end XD

 

[ZombieBran]

On the bright side, the only way they wouldn't patch Zelda is if they're completely oblivious to all her flaws. Not even pure buffs, simple things like people falling out of her smashes and ftilt/Phantom blind spots. And Din's exploding in people's faces but missing.

The alternative is that all this stuff was intentional, which would be the worst of all.

 

[Rion]

I "thunderstomped" some folks on wifi today with Dair.

That was more satisfying than I imagined.

I now understand that little joy that Ganon players experience!

 

[BJN39]

I was actually putting in work on 1v1 fo' glory myself, which surprised ME considering I think I suck and I hadn't played in a little.

Scored just about every beautiful KO in the book: SH AD BAir, Gimping w/ DAir, FW elevator (multiple times) or even just straight up LKs.

There was even this one time I sort of accidentally FW'ed at a Kirby after Dthrow. (Grounded, not like guarateed at all or even close) and I hit him as he jumped away and YOLO killed him at 70% to win while I was 50%+ behind

 

[Xys]

I read this chat for Fuujin posts. He/she is funny. Is he/she coming back or is he/she banned forever? I feel like he added a spark of flavor to this forum.

Also the thunder foot, up smash combo is really satisfying. I totally get that.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I think Zelda is still the worst character in the game but if you land a BnB combo move at low percents then you can string moves together for 20-40%

I really feel rewarded for landing stuff unlike in Brawl where instead I was punished for it.

 

[Rickster]

just so that i know it's just me, for anyone else who's had the 3ds version does it freeze your system often? like it doesn't even force close you have to hard reset it.

I've had this problem from launch and while it seemed to cool down and not happen as often, but the past week every 1-6 matches my game is freezing...and its annoying me to no end XD

Never had anything like that happen. I have the X and Y XL, if that makes a difference.

These Zelda combos. Never thought I'd say that. My favorite one is Dtilt>Utilt>Jab>Grab>Uthrow/Dthrow>Nair>kick or stomp.

Of course it's not always consistent. I cut out some attacks sometimes. But it still feels great. I managed to 0-death a bad Ganondorf the other day. Happy memories.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

@ Alacion i just read a fox amiibo came 3rd at a BC tournament

why

 

[JigglyZelda003]

lol amiibo's for true balanced tiers.

 

[Mocha]

inb4Amiibotournaments.

I actually tried out my Amiibo yesterday (a Link one) and felt like I was fighting a level 1 CPU. Granted, he started to 'improve' as he leveled up, but I'm not sure how exactly I'm supposed to teach him habits and stuff.

 

[GameAngel64]

simple things like people falling out of her smashes

Even Master Core (that is, just the ball) managed to twice fall out of my F-Smash. My husband was amused.

 

[SBphiloz4]

BC so free lol.

... Wait, that's my region.

And I don't think Zelda is that bad. She's 3rd to bottom, if you ask me. ccccc: (Doesn't change much)

 

[Alacion]

@ Alacion i just read a fox amiibo came 3rd at a BC tournament

why

They're bad and I wasn't there

 

[Phenomiracle]

BC so free lol.

... Wait, that's my region.

And I don't think Zelda is that bad. She's 3rd to bottom, if you ask me. ccccc: (Doesn't change much)

Who's worse? Ganondorf/Olimar?

I'd say she's the worst in the game, despite her recovery being one of the very best.

 

[ZombieBran]

I can't see how anyone is worst off than Olimar. I love the little guy but he just does not work. We always point out how Zelda feels in beta. Well, Olimar feels like he's in alpha. (geddit, because Alph)

 

[Mocha]

I find a certain irony in Olimar being next to Zelda in any tier list.

 

[Milky.]

Wait, there's an actual tier list already? lol..

 

[Mocha]

If there was, I doubt I could take it seriously.

Too many characters with undeveloped games out there, or too many characters with moves that we may deem as 'really good' - before we figure out how to deal with them/shield/etc a few months from now.

 

[SBphiloz4]

Funny, starting from the 5th worst, I personally think that Megaman, Olimar, Zelda, Ganondorf and Wii Fit Trainer round off the bottom 5 as of now.

*controversy intensifies*

 

[micstar615]

I actually think Ganondorf is pretty decent with customs on! Zelda is def near the end, but overall I feel this game is pretty well balanced.

ALSO, here's some footage of Zhime playing SSB4 Zelda, he's pretty good!

http://youtu.be/BE-4SLlq0HA

http://youtu.be/jlVLCUoWFlQ

http://youtu.be/3g2AmgwUFL4

 

[SBphiloz4]

So Nairo, Zhime and Ed all use Red Zelda. I for some reason feel kinda bad and mainstream for also using Red, haha. #ColourPaletteProblems

 

[micstar615]

I really like the white palette :3

 

[Milky.]

White and Blue are hands down the best alternative costumes.

Oh yeah! I remember Zhime. He wanted me to train his Zelda back in Brawl. He's pretty good with her in P:M too

 

[SBphiloz4]

Zhime's Zelda in PM is crazy good. Easily the best in the business in that game.

You can definitely see his passive aggressive play style from PM carry over in those vids above in Sm4sh.

 

[Mocha]

Has anyone noticed that doing a turn-around down tilt with Zelda is slower now? Like if you're down tilting in one direction, and then all the sudden you turn around to down tilt, it's a bit slow compared to Brawl.

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