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kenniky

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tbh I kinda want Roy to be bad for Fire Emblem tier
 

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Lol Male Robin is the only character in the Fire Emblem Reps with Jelly Rolls.

And it should stay that way.
 

Antonykun

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looked at Ryu on and Roy vid
Ry's jab looks horribly and Roy has about as much range as EVO Swordfighter smh
 

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It'd be hilarious if Ryu Hayabusa also got into Smash 4. I mean, we have('d) Link, Toon Link, Dr. Mario, Roy, Roy Koopa, Ryu, and Ryu Hayabusa. Oh, and Green Mario and Yellow Mario too. Then we'd need Toon Ganondorf, Toon Zelda, Toon Sheik - dear, Nayru, imagine the monstrosity of that -, Young Link, Wolf Link, Zelda Wii U Link, Dry Bowser, Tanooki Bowser, Big Mac, Nurse Peach, Cat Peach, Pink Gold Peach, and Purple Mario.

tbh I kinda want Roy to be bad for Fire Emblem tier
I could actually see that happening. Here's the thing: fast fall speed, low jump, and his recovery appears to be limited to Blazer while Ike has Quickdraw, Marth/Lucina have charged Shield Breaker, and Robin can at least throw something out to cover. Roy backs up everything with fast air speed, fast ground speed, and what seems to be fast attacks for a swordsman, but his range seems a bit shorter because of how he swings his sword compared to Link who makes sweeping cuts and thrusts, the Pits leaning into their attacks, Marth and Lucina using regular strikes, and Ike and Shulk's sheer range. Roy is kind of the Meta Knight of the sword users while being the Ike in air speed, Marth in ground speed, and Link in fall speed.

At the same time, Wolf's recovery was spotty because of ledge sweet-spot issues, he was a fast faller, his air speed was incredible, and he jumped low. Ground speed was meh, but in a way Roy and Wolf would be a bit similar. Both had range for melee fighters and attacked fairly quickly with strong hits. Difference: Roy's got a sword that needs to centered hits for power while Wolf's fighting with his claws and legs and doing consistent damage for the most part. Then there's the issue of auto-canceling. Roy's Fair apparently auto-cancels from what people have seen - yay, Ike Fair -, but that's just one move we know.

Roy could be like Little Mac, Dr. Mario, Ganondorf, etc. where so long as he doesn't leave the stage involuntarily, he's fine and a danger.
 

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@ SBphiloz4 SBphiloz4 so would you say my Tink is as good as like my Peach or Zelda?
If I'll be honest I can definitely see you rotating around between Zelda, Rosalina, Peach and Toon Link depending on MUs and preferences. I think you should probably test out your Tink more because I definitely think the former 3 are your most confident characters and it be hard to have other characters join them until you put in a lot of effort in them.
 
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brb moving shulk to the bottom of my personal tier list
Stay cold Vanilla :>

But yeah, Roy looks rly good. His recovery is bad though, but I'm definitely going to try him out. I just hope his landing lag isn't bad or anything. His f-air landing lag doesn't look bad tbh but the shield safety is what worries me atm
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I like how Ryu's d-tilt deals like 1.5% damage if it's the weak version but the follow ups are NUTS. The character looks ****ing beast. N-air does 13% damage even when sourspotted. Lol
 

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Lucas looks really good and has uthrow as a kill throw. I wonder if he still has his momentum tricks with PSI magnet. R.I.P. pressure though. Dair only does 15% now instead of 20%. Fsmash looks weaker too.
 

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It would be harsh if that gif hasn't already been used 20 times.
oh trust me, its really harsh. even if its an overrated .GIF :(
I remember in brawl that after you use PK Fire in the air, you get pushed back and if you use PSI magnet afterwards. Then you go really far horizontally giving him a p good horizontal recovery.
oh. so it might be possible to do it in smash 4. lol
 

Alacion

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Like that gif was probably posted by Fujin years before the existence of this thread.
 

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Stay cold Vanilla :>

But yeah, Roy looks rly good. His recovery is bad though, but I'm definitely going to try him out. I just hope his landing lag isn't bad or anything. His f-air landing lag doesn't look bad tbh but the shield safety is what worries me atm
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I like how Ryu's d-tilt deals like 1.5% damage if it's the weak version but the follow ups are NUTS. The character looks ****ing beast. N-air does 13% damage even when sourspotted. Lol
That landing lag doesn't look bad to you? Looks pretty similar to Marth fair to me, except now your tipper is weak so it's probably even more punishable spaced. The framerate in that gfy is pretty awful though so it's hard to tell exactly. Time will tell I guess, but considering both how he was in the past and how Marth/Lucina are in this game I expect nothing out of him.

Ryu looks amazing. Pretty sure I'm not going to buy any additional characters, but he definitely interests me the most out of the three by far.
 
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That landing lag doesn't look bad to you? Looks pretty similar to Marth fair to me, except now your tipper is weak so it's probably even more punishable spaced. The framerate in that gfy is pretty awful though so it's hard to tell exactly. Time will tell I guess, but considering both how he was in the past and how Marth/Lucina are in this game I expect nothing out of him.

Ryu looks amazing. Pretty sure I'm not going to buy any additional characters, but he definitely interests me the most out of the three by far.
It's hard to tell tbh. It may be the same as Marth's though. Also, don't be pessimistic :<

Really, I'm just waiting on his shield safety. I worry since the sweetspot and sourspot differences between his blade hitbox and tip hitbox are probably big/distant so spacing might actually be an issue for him. If that's a problem then well ****.

Shulk4lyf. But Ryu looks amaaaaaaaaziiiiiiiiiiiiiing. It's just the recovery that turns me off. Otherwise, I'm gonna kill for those codes
 

kenniky

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That landing lag doesn't look bad to you? Looks pretty similar to Marth fair to me, except now your tipper is weak so it's probably even more punishable spaced. The framerate in that gfy is pretty awful though so it's hard to tell exactly. Time will tell I guess, but considering both how he was in the past and how Marth/Lucina are in this game I expect nothing out of him.
Psst... berserker mains Shulk. Any sort of semilow lag looks good
 

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when I see a rosie avi

+1 to nintendo for good roy recolors

yeah I noticed he's gonna be a total champ

it doesn't help that he only got +1 HP for both of his levelups so far
oh you actually started playing FE5,
but ya, he really is the worst leading lord, despite being my favorite
the only things he has going for him is the sword he doesn't have enough con for, the abysmal stat caps of fe5 and the fact crusader scrolls exist
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