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Since we're listing MUs here, might as well do one for the frog:

-1: :4sheik::4sonic::4fox:
+-0: :4bowserjr::4diddy::4lucario::4mario::4megaman::4metaknight::4ness::4olimar::4pacman::4peach::4pikachu::4pit::4darkpit::rosalina::4shulk::4villager::4zss::4wario::4kirby::4miibrawl::4rob::4yoshi::4miigun:
+1: :4bowser::4falcon::4charizard::4dedede::4drmario::4duckhunt::4falco::4gaw::4myfriends::4littlemac::4marth::4lucina::4luigi::4mewtwo::4palutena::4robinm::4tlink::4link::4wiifit::4zelda::4dk::4ganondorf::4samus::4miisword:
+2: :4jigglypuff:

I'm sure some of those might be in the wrong places but that's how I feel about it =V
And what if charizard mega evolve, does a DD and become faster and stronger than you while losing his weakness to water?
Bulky Mzard X is da best
 

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Since we're listing MUs here, might as well do one for the frog:


+2: :4jigglypuff:

I'm sure some of those might be in the wrong places but that's how I feel about it =V
Me: imma approach as jigglypuff :D
Greninja: Upsmash
Me: I cri
 

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And what if charizard mega evolve, does a DD and become faster and stronger than you while losing his weakness to water?
Bulky Mzard X is da best
252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 144 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 227-269 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja: 262-310 (91.9 - 108.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
lol
Gren OHKOs with Stealth Rock on (50% chance), granted Hydro Miss doesn't miss.
 

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Today on characters I'm picking up again because they're suddenly interesting:

:4jigglypuff: Because I finally figured out how to land rest, lol.

:4ness: Because holy **** the forehead and he's mah boi.:ness:

Wooooooo
 

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So I ended up beating Classic Mode on 6.5 difficulty with Jiggs twice today with only one hand. Fighting Mii Team sucks but I can stretch my hand to the circle pad to spam Pound and win.

Master Hand really does tests my hand limits, but setting one of the jump buttons to shield made stuff easier. Spam Uair ftw. Too bad, didn't get any noteworthy custom moves but Spinphony smh. :///
 

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Speaking of Jiggs. Anyone up for a few matches? I'm going to try out Jiggs a bit. I did try her out before on the 3DS, and she is quite fun to use.
 

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252 SpA Life Orb Greninja Hydro Pump vs. 144 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 227-269 (68.1 - 80.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Greninja: 262-310 (91.9 - 108.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
lol
Gren OHKOs with Stealth Rock on (50% chance), granted Hydro Miss doesn't miss.
So i just went to showdown and saw that the new bulky charizard is played with roost and DD, and DC and earthquake to attack. This is really bad, what the **** did happen. Charizard X: full att/hp, hp grass/flare blitz/outrage/roost
Take starmie to spin and kill heatran and nothing will wall the beast
 

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So i just went to showdown and saw that the new bulky charizard is played with roost and DD, and DC and earthquake to attack. This is really bad, what the **** did happen. Charizard X: full att/hp, hp grass/flare blitz/outrage/roost
Take starmie to spin and kill heatran and nothing will wall the beast
I'm actually thinking of trying to make another VGC Team for Pokemon where I have an Arcanine as a tank. Doubt it'll work though. :c
 

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Arcanine is pretty good to tank but it can't come freely multiple times. And his offensive and utility is bad wihout investment so i discourage this. The fact that he needs a lot of speed if you want to counter things mean that his bulk is not the best.
 

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Wait Arcanine is viable now?
Most commonly held item is the Rocky Helmet, lol. He also has Intimidate and I'm probably wrong but I'm seeing a lot fewer Bisharps and Milotics. Arcanines also carry Will-o-wisp and Snarl. Extreme Speed helps with the required bulk investment. Arcanine is steadily increasing in use and popularity.
Mono-Type teams are more legit :secretkpop:
Really hard to pull off though :( I want Soak to work sooo badly on my team.
 
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I use Intimidate Morning Sun Will-o-wisp Arcanine as a tank.

I use Intimidate Knock Off Taunt Krookodile as a tank.

I almost considered using Wish Salamence as a tank too. Judge me, gorls. :secretkpop:
 

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I've used Arcanine in Singles before on a rather strange team I have:
Mega Kangaskhan (PIMPNITE SUX!), Azumarill (Manly Reisen), Weezing (Smogon4Noobz), Arcanine (Phlog Pyro), Rotom-W (Calgon) and Donphan (♀+♀=Yuri)

As for my Arcanine's stats and Moves:
Calm (+SDef, -Atk)
252 HP, 128 Def, 128 SDef, 4 Spd
Intimidate
Leftovers
Extreme Speed
Toxic
Morning Sun
Flamethrower

I almost considered using Wish Salamence as a tank too. Judge me, gorls. :secretkpop:
Puh-lease. I used a Joltik in doubles with a Focus Sash. Infestation, Toxic, Dicharge and Protect. :yeahboi:
 
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So i just went to showdown and saw that the new bulky charizard is played with roost and DD, and DC and earthquake to attack. This is really bad, what the **** did happen. Charizard X: full att/hp, hp grass/flare blitz/outrage/roost
Take starmie to spin and kill heatran and nothing will wall the beast
wait why starmie for heatran... nvm forgot air balloon which makes earthquake useless. **** that. **** predictions
 
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Controversy time~ Zelda's MUs IMO

Slight Advantage: :4samus:
Very slight Advantage: :4dedede:
Even: :4robinf::4wiifit::4rob::4bowserjr::4ganondorf:
Very Slight Disadvantage: :4charizard::4bowser::4dk::4villager::4duckhunt::4lucina::4lucario::4miisword:
Slight Disadvantage: :4kirby::4jigglypuff::4falco::4drmario::4mario::4marth::rosalina::4myfriends::4palutena::4mewtwo::4miigun:
Disadvantage: :4gaw::4pacman::4luigi::4pikachu::4pit::4darkpit::4falcon::4diddy::4metaknight::4olimar::4greninja::4link::4tlink::4wario::4yoshi::4ness:
Strong Disadvantage: :4megaman::4fox::4miibrawl::4peach::4littlemac::4shulk:
Very Strong Disadvantage: :4sonic::4sheik::4zss:


I'm still being optimistic with these very slight terms smh ; w ;
Even-ish: :4samus::4dedede::4robinf::4wiifit::4rob::4bowserjr::4ganondorf::4villager::4falco:
Slight Disadvantage: :4charizard::4dk::4bowser::4duckhunt::4lucina::4jigglypuff::4kirby::rosalina::4myfriends::4palutena::4mewtwo::4gaw:
Disadvantage: :4marth::4mario::4luigi::4pit::4darkpit::4falcon::4metaknight::4olimar::4greninja::4link::4tlink::4ness::4wario2::4pacman::4shulk::4lucario:
Strong Disadvantage: :4megaman::4peach::4yoshi::4sonic::4sheik::4pikachu::4diddy::4fox:
Very strong Disadvantage: :4zss::4littlemac: :4zelda:(:secretkpop:)

Miis not ranked - don't know enough about them.
Also this is without customs.
 
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I'd use a Zapdos for my VGC Team. However, its from Gen 4 and ones that aren't caught in Gen 6 are banned right?
Plus it only has one IV in SAtk. :c

But so far. My team is:
Talonflame (Ho-Oh 2.0), Slowbro (HOENNCONFIRM), Mawile (Onii-chan!?), Tornadus-T (Windy Miller), Landorus-T (Demeteros) and Sylveon.
 

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As for my Arcanine's stats and Moves:
Calm (+SDef, -Atk)
252 HP, 128 Def, 128 SDef, 4 Spd
Intimidate
Leftovers
Extreme Speed
Toxic
Morning Sun
Flamethrower
In Pokemon, COMPROMISE IS THE WORST OPTION. Invest fully in one defense or don't invest at all. Best to abuse Intimidate and focus on defense. Can switch better into things like Scizor and Breloom. Also switch to Impish nature and use Flare Blitz over Flamethrower to minimize compromising offenses.

Even-ish: :4samus::4dedede::4robinf::4wiifit::4rob::4bowserjr::4ganondorf::4villager::4falco:
Slight Disadvantage: :4charizard::4dk::4bowser::4duckhunt::4lucina::4jigglypuff::4kirby::rosalina::4myfriends::4palutena::4mewtwo::4gaw:
Disadvantage: :4marth::4mario::4luigi::4pit::4darkpit::4falcon::4metaknight::4olimar::4greninja::4link::4tlink::4ness::4wario2::4pacman::4shulk:
Strong Disadvantage: :4megaman::4peach::4yoshi::4sonic::4sheik::4pikachu::4diddy:
Very strong Disadvantage: :4zss::4littlemac:

Miis not ranked - don't know enough about them.
Also this is without customs.
Also without :4lucario:lololol
 
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I'd use a Zapdos for my VGC Team. However, its from Gen 4 and ones that aren't caught in Gen 6 are banned right?
Plus it only has one IV in SAtk. :c

But so far. My team is:
Talonflame (Ho-Oh 2.0), Slowbro (HOENNCONFIRM), Mawile (Onii-chan!?), Tornadus-T (Windy Miller), Landorus-T (Demeteros) and Sylveon.
Pokémon that are for use on VGC can only be from the new games.
Torn-T is kinda surprising lol.
 

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In Pokemon, COMPROMISE IS THE WORST OPTION. Invest fully in one defense or don't invest at all. Best to abuse Intimidate and focus on defense. Can switch better into things like Scizor and Breloom. Also switch to Impish nature and use Flare Blitz over Flamethrower to minimize compromising offenses.
Ewww. Breloom.

Pokémon that are for use on VGC can only be from the new games.
Torn-T is kinda surprising lol.
I was thinking of using Tornadus-I. But I felt like having Regenerator might be better, until I got some feedback on having a Prankster Tornadus is better because of a +1 Tailwind. :3

But I already gave it a moveset. ;_;
Tailwind, Protect, Hurricane, Hidden Power Ground. Along with Max EVs in Speed and Sp. Atk. ;w;
 

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Ewww. Breloom.



I was thinking of using Tornadus-I. But I felt like having Regenerator might be better, until I got some feedback on having a Prankster Tornadus is better because of a +1 Tailwind. :3

But I already gave it a moveset. ;_;
Tailwind, Protect, Hurricane, Hidden Power Ground. Along with Max EVs in Speed and Sp. Atk. ;w;
Talonflame has priority Tailwind. Talonflame has priority Brave Bird. Talonflame has Flare Blitz for swag. Talonflame has Quick Guard.
Replace Tornadus with something else.
 

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She's still bottom tier with them.

What characters are worse than her?
There aren't official tiers so that was probably a bad way to phrase it. IMO Zelda is bottom 10. She's better than Mii Sword Fighter, Samus, Ganon, Charizard, Falco, Robin and maybe G&W, DDD and Mii Gunner. Don't get me wrong; she is a bad character.
Zelda does have a very good gimping and recovering game, grab game, and a low damage KO with elevator. Unfortunately she struggles in other aspects of MUs and can be very predictable once people learn how to deal with Faroe's. Even so Faroe's is at least as safe as other kill moves in the game, you just can't be reckless with it.
I'm with @S.F.L.R_9 Zelda is slightly underrated but still bad.
 

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Talonflame has priority Tailwind. Talonflame has priority Brave Bird. Talonflame has Flare Blitz for swag. Talonflame has Quick Guard.
Replace Tornadus with something else.
I would. But I just don't really feel like doing it. :c
And I don't want to go through trying to raise another Talonflame. I've had this Talonflame for a long time. :c

And I know I have three weak to Electric. :c
But I ain't using Skarmory, I don't like how Skarmory feels.
And I dunno what else to use. :c
 

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I want to build with infernape. I'll call him king diddy.
Joke aside infernape movepool is BS, he has everything, it's a shame his Base speed is only 108, with one more point he would check keldeo consistently.
Anyway, a scarfer with encore/CC/gunk shot/u turn seems good. Or a set with SR/taunt/u turn/mach point or something like that.
 

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Tornadus is terrible. Most popular Tailwind user atm is Suicune. Talonflame and Whimsicott are also popular due to having priority Tailwind and the latter has priority Encore fml.
 

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I would. But I just don't really feel like doing it. :c
And I don't want to go through trying to raise another Talonflame. I've had this Talonflame for a long time. :c

And I know I have three weak to Electric. :c
But I ain't using Skarmory, I don't like how Skarmory feels.
And I dunno what else to use. :c
uhh
Talonflame/Lando-T/Sylveon/Mega Kangaskhan/Amoonguss/Suicune
there.
Suicune can be a backup Tailwind user.
 
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I remember trying to be competitive in Pokemon.

Too complicated for me tbh. :( Sucks since Pokemon is one of my favorite games ever.
 

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uhh
Talonflame/Lando-T/Sylveon/Mega Kangaskhan/Amoonguss/Suicune
there.
Suicune can be a backup Tailwind user.
Funny that I have a M-Kangaskhan on my Singles team and an Amoonguss on my other team. :V

Suicune... PFFFFT. I only got that Shiny Event Suicune to promote B/W with a bad nature. :V
 
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