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[Rizen]

So today this girl on my bus says that pink ISN'T a colour, it's a shade of red. And all my friends keep telling her that pink is it's own colour because:
- It has it's own section on the colour wheel. (The wheels that art programs have)
- We even told her to try and make pink with red with the shade slider. (The closest she could get was like salmon colour)
- And she says that colours like baby blue aren't colours because they're SHADES
- She says that google lies because it says that pink is a colour (like WTF???)
- We keep trying to tell her that colours reflect off of light and that's what we see but she's super stubborn.
- Then she asked about black and white and we tell her those are SHADES
- She says that she can make pink paint out of red by mixing for a LONG time -____-
- She says that you can't make red or yellow and those are colours but we told her they're PRIMARY colours
- We tried to explain that red is like a great ancestor for pink
This just stressed me out for the bus ride. And I need ideas to debate with her. Please can you give me ideas?

And @Nammy12 will be gone for a while. He's on a Ottawa trip.

Well it depends on how you define color, lol.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/07/does-the-color-pink-exist-scientists-arent-sure/
I think the best explanation is from ^this:
"Pink is real—or it is not—but it is just as real or not-real as red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet."
Seeing as Pink isn't necessarily a tint of red but a range including tints of read and violet mixed...
http://www.colormatters.com/the-meanings-of-colors/pink
it's not exactly accurate to describe pink as a tint. I think the dictionary definition is what you're looking for:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pink?s=t
"a color varying from light crimson to pale reddish purple."
since color is:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/color?s=t
"the quality of an object or substance with respect to light reflected by the object, usually determined visually by measurement of hue, saturation, and brightness of the reflected light; saturation or chroma; hue."
a broad term relating to reflected light.

 

[FullMoon]

EEEEEEEE IT'S RAINING

So yeaaaa I really like &. I lost most of the matches with them but that's because I was training my demon amiibo, lol.

feels very easy to use and like a much better . He won't be too hard to pick up.

wasn't very easy to use, which I expected since I don't really know his moves too much yet. I kept using side-b accidentally when trying to recover which caused me to sd, so I need to work on that.

But yeah definitely gonna use them more.

Shadow Sneak SDs while trying to recover, overcoming that is like the rite of passage of every Greninja player ever lol.

 

[Koiba]

Well it depends on how you define color, lol.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/07/does-the-color-pink-exist-scientists-arent-sure/
I think the best explanation is from ^this:
"Pink is real—or it is not—but it is just as real or not-real as red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo and violet."
Seeing as Pink isn't necessarily a tint of red but a range including tints of read and violet mixed...
http://www.colormatters.com/the-meanings-of-colors/pink
it's not exactly accurate to describe pink as a tint. I think the dictionary definition is what you're looking for:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pink?s=t
"a color varying from light crimson to pale reddish purple."
since color is:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/color?s=t
"the quality of an object or substance with respect to light reflected by the object, usually determined visually by measurement of hue, saturation, and brightness of the reflected light; saturation or chroma; hue."
a broad term relating to reflected light.

So technically pink is a mixture of red and purple?

 

[kenniky]

Shadow Sneak SDs while trying to recover, overcoming that is like the rite of passage of every Greninja player ever lol.

Apparently I've gone through the rite of passage without being a Greninja player...

._.

EDIT: that is a cool post number

 

[Rizen]

So technically pink is a mixture of red and purple?

More like Pink is a range that humans perceive as a color that goes from light crimson to pale reddish purple. More importantly, color is reflected light we perceive visually. In that sense Pink is a color as much as any.

 

[Antonykun]

sometimes i wonder if the most toxic thing is smash 4 is its community :/

 

[kenniky]

sometimes i wonder if the most toxic thing is smash 4 is its community :/

We no longer have Poison types so you might be right

 

[Soul.]

sometimes i wonder if the most toxic thing is smash 4 is its community :/

Let's see.... 3DS vs. Wii U, Customs or no Customs, 2 stock or 3 stock, lol tourney problems, asking for patches instead of adapting...
I guess.

 

[Space Stranger]

sometimes i wonder if the most toxic thing is smash 4 is its community :/

I can use this again!
SMASHBOARDS: HOME OF THE ANGRY FANBOYS WHO WHINE ABOUT ANYTHING IMPLEMENTED IN A SMASH GAME

 

[Trieste SP]

sometimes i wonder if the most toxic thing is smash 4 is its community :/

You should see the MKBoards. They are pure toxic. I'm not kidding.

 

[Soul.]

The Misimpressions thread is talking about my main.
This is going to be good.

 

[Kofu]

I'm trying to find Pikachu avatars but I can't... Ughhh.

I could try drawing something for you if you want, though it would probably pale in comparison to the usual quality. I've drawn my fair share of fakemon over the years and sometimes people will look at my drawings and say things look like Pokémon even if it's not my intention.

Sounds like something I would do tbh

Once I got shieldbroken by like 3 Bowser Bombs in one match >_>


Also why does everyone hate Reuniclus ;-;

Something that SolidSense mentioned once was that shielding will become less important at high level play. There's less shieldstun in this game but more recovery frames after shielding. He suggested pivot FTilts as one of the replacement defensive options which I think is great.

Reuniclus is awesome.

He thinks Shulk and Greninja are bottom tier because they have bad frame data. He also is part of the reason Fuujin got banned. He's a Rosalina player and isn't great, since Macchiato destroyed him in like every match they played.

Waitwaitwaitwait WHAT

I mean, I'm ambivalent about Fuujin (don't know the guy) but I want to know how this happened.

I was thinking about the various characters in Smash and thought it would he fun to match up one Pokémon to each of them. Dark Pit is Absol, IMO, because edgy. Shulk is Aegislash. Haven't thought too much about the rest, but Falco is likely either Talonflame or Blaziken.

 

[Lavani]

Greninja is Politoed because he's a frog

 

[kenniky]

I was thinking about the various characters in Smash and thought it would he fun to match up one Pokémon to each of them. Dark Pit is Absol, IMO, because edgy. Shulk is Aegislash. Haven't thought too much about the rest, but Falco is likely either Talonflame or Blaziken.

Pikachu is Pikachu
Jigglypuff is Jigglypuff
Charizard is Charizard
Lucario is Lucario
Greninja is Greninja
Mewtwo is most definitely not Mewtwo, ew that weight change. Mewtwo, stop dieting.

seems like Regigigas imo

 

[Lorde]

Waitwaitwaitwait WHAT

I mean, I'm ambivalent about Fuujin (don't know the guy) but I want to know how this happened.

I was thinking about the various characters in Smash and thought it would he fun to match up one Pokémon to each of them. Dark Pit is Absol, IMO, because edgy. Shulk is Aegislash. Haven't thought too much about the rest, but Falco is likely either Talonflame or Blaziken.

I honestly don't know much about how he got banned. I just heard someone mention that in passing. If you want the specifics, ask someone who was around when it happened. Or even better yet, ask Fuujin when he shows up again. All I know what that some moderators followed him everywhere and infracted him unfairly when he posted gifs.

And Talonflame and Blaziken are wayyyyy too good to be Falco.

 

[Estel Elessar]

I could try drawing something for you if you want, though it would probably pale in comparison to the usual quality. I've drawn my fair share of fakemon over the years and sometimes people will look at my drawings and say things look like Pokémon even if it's not my intention.


Something that SolidSense mentioned once was that shielding will become less important at high level play. There's less shieldstun in this game but more recovery frames after shielding. He suggested pivot FTilts as one of the replacement defensive options which I think is great.

Reuniclus is awesome.


Waitwaitwaitwait WHAT

I mean, I'm ambivalent about Fuujin (don't know the guy) but I want to know how this happened.

I was thinking about the various characters in Smash and thought it would he fun to match up one Pokémon to each of them. Dark Pit is Absol, IMO, because edgy. Shulk is Aegislash. Haven't thought too much about the rest, but Falco is likely either Talonflame or Blaziken.

ZSS is Lopunny because Rule 34

 

[FullMoon]

Sheik would be a a Ninjask, both are pretty terrible at actually killing things even if they're super fast =V

Also for some reason Greninja is heavier than Sheik in this game and Ninjask is more frail than him as well

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Zelda = Glaceon
Sheik = Accelgor
1.0.4 Diddy = Mega Rayquaza

 

[UkeNicky]

Can I just say,

The back hit of Utilt is amazing. Combos into Usmash at like 10%, into Nair from 10-40%, into Bair from about 30% & into Uair about mid %s

It is indeed! To really up the masochist factor I always fight with my back to the enemy.
All Zelda players should know this trick by now, so, go out there and pull some tricks girls!

 

[2004Zilla]

I thought Zelda was Gardevoir.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I thought Zelda was Gardevoir.

What Zelda is:

- Slow
- Weak defensively
- Outright bad

What Gardevoir is not:

- Slow
- Weak defensively
- Outright bad

What Glaceon is:

- Slow
- Weak defensively
- Outright bad

 

[Space Stranger]

Pokemon talk!?

 

[Alacion]

The most toxic thing about Smash 4 is that the game rewards defensive play even more than Brawl.

 

[Antonykun]

yo @ KuroganeHammer in kurogane hammer you have different stats for the characters like attack and defense.
I wonder who has any max stats?

 

[KuroganeHammer]

The most toxic thing about Smash 4 is that the game rewards defensive play even more than Brawl.

How so?

Also does anyone have a capture card and hacked wii? I might need to get someone to record some lulzy hacked brawl stuff so i can explain KBG and BKB to people.

 

[Alacion]

How so?

Also does anyone have a capture card and hacked wii? I might need to get someone to record some lulzy hacked brawl stuff so i can explain KBG and BKB to people.

Defensive options like shield, spotdodge, and maybe rolling is way better and difficult to punish. Evidence... 75% of the people in this thread.

 

[Soul.]

Pokkén when. You can actually play a better Zelda in that game.

 

[Antonykun]

Defensive options like shield, spotdodge, and maybe rolling is way better and difficult to punish. Evidence... 75% of the people in this thread.

I see what you did there

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Defensive options like shield, spotdodge, and maybe rolling is way better and difficult to punish. Evidence... 75% of the people in this thread.

I noticed this too but then I started playing dash grab the character. Sheik and Falcon destroy anyone who sits in shield or rolls.

yo @ KuroganeHammer in kurogane hammer you have different stats for the characters like attack and defense.
I wonder who has any max stats?

Max stats:
Speed: Sonic, ZSS, Falcon, Grninja, Sheik, Monado Shulk
Weight: Bowser, Monado Shulk
Recovery: Pikachu,

 

[Alacion]

I see what you did there

You guys know I'm right.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I don't understand the reference.

 

[Koiba]

I could try drawing something for you if you want, though it would probably pale in comparison to the usual quality. I've drawn my fair share of fakemon over the years and sometimes people will look at my drawings and say things look like Pokémon even if it's not my intention.


Something that SolidSense mentioned once was that shielding will become less important at high level play. There's less shieldstun in this game but more recovery frames after shielding. He suggested pivot FTilts as one of the replacement defensive options which I think is great.

Reuniclus is awesome.


Waitwaitwaitwait WHAT

I mean, I'm ambivalent about Fuujin (don't know the guy) but I want to know how this happened.

I was thinking about the various characters in Smash and thought it would he fun to match up one Pokémon to each of them. Dark Pit is Absol, IMO, because edgy. Shulk is Aegislash. Haven't thought too much about the rest, but Falco is likely either Talonflame or Blaziken.

:Blastoise
:Squirtle
:Blaziken
:Gallade
: Fatter Empoleon
:Chimchar
: Fatter Infernape
:
:Growlithe and Ducklett
:
:
:Regigigas
:
: Pangoro
:Smeargle
:Hitmonchan
:
: Meowstic (F)
: Bibarel
:
: Volcanion
:
:
:Yamask
: Hitmontop
:
:
:Meowstic(M)
: Leafeon
:Arceus
: Klefki
:Florges
:Bisharp
Porygon Z
:
:Luvdisc
:Mega Kangaskan
: Clawtizer
:Accelegor
: Ageslash
:Ninjask
:
:
: Garbador
:
: Tyrantrum
:Nidoqueen
:Lopunny

 

[kenniky]

yo @ KuroganeHammer in kurogane hammer you have different stats for the characters like attack and defense.
I wonder who has any max stats?

Shulk also has a max in difficulty

lol

 

[Antonykun]

I noticed this too but then I started playing dash grab the character. Sheik and Falcon destroy anyone who sits in shield or rolls.


Max stats:
Speed: Sonic, ZSS, Falcon, Greninja, Sheik, Monado Shulk
Weight: Bowser, Monado Shulk
Recovery: Pikachu,

so no one is maxed out for the other stats? or will you think about it later?

 

[Alacion]

I noticed this too but then I started playing dash grab the character. Sheik and Falcon destroy anyone who sits in shield or rolls.

Yeah you're right. Speed punishes overly defensive play but still go in and you're most likely going to lose unless you are that top tier.

I'm not sure what the reference but based on my games with you guys, most of you stand there and wait for people to go in. You guys get away with it too which and that is why I've been putting 90% of my Smash practise for the past month into Melee again.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

so no one is maxed out for the other stats? or will you think about it later?

I think about it when I get there.

Speed/Weight/Recovery all have a list in a notepad of the characters that go where.

For offense/defense I think about this carefully and discuss it with people who main the character to see where abouts it should be.

I don't think I could say any one character has a "perfect" offensive game, or "perfect" defensive game though.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

The word toxic is a horrible buzz word that shouldn't be used. (Unless in Pokemon move context).

But yes, the major problem is the community. The fact we have such a split.

Also, offense and defense are not better then each other. Its a preference. I rather not play such an offensive game like melee myself. But I'm NOT going to say it sucks because it has an offensive game.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

Yeah you're right. Speed punishes overly defensive play but still go in and you're most likely going to lose unless you are that top tier.

I'm not sure what the reference but based on my games with you guys, most of you stand there and wait for people to go in. You guys get away with it too which and that is why I've been putting 90% of my Smash practise for the past month into Melee again.

This is really true! Unless you're one of the top 8 characters or Little Mac (Rosalina the exception), you can't just run at people and punish shields or rolls. The option to do it is there, defensive options are still a bit (VERY) on the weak side but the problem is that hitboxes in this game just... don't really exist.

 

[kenniky]

This is really true! Unless you're one of the top 8 characters or Little Mac (Rosalina the exception), you can't just run at people and punish shields or rolls. The option to do it is there, defensive options are still a bit (VERY) on the weak side but the problem is that hitboxes in this game just... don't really exist.

Unless they're Falcon's, in which case they envelop the Milky Way galaxy

 

[Lorde]

Characters that should have max stat things on Aero's website imo:

Recovery: and maybe
Speed:
Weight:
Difficulty:

offense and defense don't really matter all that much. roaslini would probably have the closest to max defense, though.