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[S.F.L.R_9]

yes you can do that... ill send you a replay later kay?

...So you're telling me you can get a kill at 70% off of a move that comes out on frame 4?

 

[Macchiato]

...So you're telling me you can get a kill at 70% off of a move that comes out on frame 4?

50% if they dont mash out and you charge it.

 

[Lavani]

I know, thats exactly what I'm saying.

Everyone, just read this thread to have your mind blown.
http://squidboards.com/threads/wow-look-at-all-these-techs-o.546/

Thanks for ruining my evening.

 

[Macchiato]

@ S.F.L.R_9 sent the replay btw. just go online and if the data think pops up, then go out of online and go to replays.

 

[Soul.]

It's funny seeing people complain about the word [tech] just because it applies to a fighting game.
"wow I hate the term tech. We don't need Smash Bros. logic on Splatoon"
Then you have that Squidboards thread and see people talking about immature elitism with Melee.

 

[Burgundy]

I know, thats exactly what I'm saying.

Everyone, just read this thread to have your mind blown.
http://squidboards.com/threads/wow-look-at-all-these-techs-o.546/

Uuuuuuuugh.
Was the Smash community like this when it first started?

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

50% if they dont mash out and you charge it.

BAN•WFT

 

[Macchiato]

BAN•WFT

the character most people consider bottom tier. k

tbh i think hes secretly a top tier.

 

[r_greening1]

@ CatRaccoonBL That thread was about the dumbest arguement I've ever seen lol Good thing we don't have those here!

 

[Lorde]

Reminder that WFT's usmash comes out on frame 14 and everyone is going to mash when they're buried, so idk how reliable they combo is in actuality. Besides, the jab combo is kinda wonky sometimes and hits the opponent off the ground a little bit so that they don't get buried.

 

[Moydow]

I've seen some people mash out of burial at upwards of 100% almost instantly (as in, too quick for me to do any sort of meaningful punish). How is that even possible? It takes me ages to mash out even at tiny percents.

 

[Ffamran]

I know, thats exactly what I'm saying.

Everyone, just read this thread to have your mind blown.
http://squidboards.com/threads/wow-look-at-all-these-techs-o.546/

Why is this thread allowed to exist? How the **** does Smash own a word used in countless things, games, films, martial arts, cooking, science, math, and more?

 

[Macchiato]

Reminder that WFT's usmash comes out on frame 14 and everyone is going to mash when they're buried, so idk how reliable they combo is in actuality. Besides, the jab combo is kinda wonky sometimes and hits the opponent off the ground a little bit so that they don't get buried.

yeah but if theyre at 70% and mash out a lot. an instant jump cancelled usmash will work. yeah sometimes you have to pause for 1/4 a second before you input the third jab. its pretty reliable. i pull it off 3 times more than how many times dins fire hits a year, in a week.

 

[Antonykun]

@ UkeNicky I'm curious about your avi

 

[r_greening1]

WAIT GORLS!
I saw this a couple (LOT) of pages ago from somebody (I'm sorry I don't remember who!)

Does this mean we're all in a hotel matrix of sorts? I mean, if @ Lorde is the attendant does that make us the passengers of Zelda's Farore's Hotel Elevator? Both the elevator and our lives will end in death.

 

[Macchiato]

I've seen some people mash out of burial at upwards of 100% almost instantly (as in, too quick for me to do any sort of meaningful punish). How is that even possible? It takes me ages to mash out even at tiny percents.

it only really happens when your opponent is 20% or lower.

 

[Princess Toady]

yes you can do that... ill send you a replay later kay?

Please send me one too if you can one day !
I really wanna get better with Wii Fit. I already knew about USmash after her jab combo but the nair setup is news to me.

Also, I heard you could do something with her side B and dodging but somehow I'm unable to do anything after that. Oh and last thing I wanted to ask was, is it possible for WFT to cancel her Sun Salutation like Sheik does without having to go through the dodge animation? You know, as a fake out.

If you could please tag me if you replied, it would be awesome. I'm going to go to sleep, no idea why I'm not sleeping yet TBH.

 

[Lorde]

yeah but if theyre at 70% and mash out a lot

I've seen some people mash out of burial at upwards of 100% almost instantly (as in, too quick for me to do any sort of meaningful punish)

Ty Moydow.

Again, usmash comes out on frame 14. You must be playing people who are legally dead if they're consistently getting punished with such a slow move.

 

[FullMoon]

I know, thats exactly what I'm saying.

Everyone, just read this thread to have your mind blown.
http://squidboards.com/threads/wow-look-at-all-these-techs-o.546/

So I look at that...

Something elitists forget and just think about hitboxes and how to be a special snowflake.

Later:

Splatoon is pretty dang original. I'm all up for original lingo for the game. I think it deserves it. So what if we are trying to be different?

Doing a good job not trying to be a special snowflake there I see.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

@ Macchiato Omg that jab to usmash is so awesome. WFT is such a hype character to watch

 

[Jestar]

That squid boards thread thing gave me a good laugh.

It's funny because the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear "tech" is the action that happens when you break your fall against walls/the ground by hitting the shield button and not "tech"nique so reading the word "tech" so many times kept screwing my mind up.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

That squid boards thread thing gave me a good laugh.

It's funny because the first thing that comes to my mind when I hear "tech" is the action that happens when you break your fall against walls/the ground by hitting the shield button and not "tech"nique so reading the word "tech" so many times kept screwing my mind up.

Yeah, we could've probably came up with a better name for that. (Especially since it is officially called a ukemi. Fun fact, Uprising also has a ukemi feature).

 

[Lavani]

lv9 CPUs mash out of the bury at 100% before even a buffered usmash comes out.

I think bury time is based on knockback, Wii Fit's burying hitbox on jab3 has really weak knockback and next to no bury time.

Yeah, we could've probably came up with a better name for that. (Especially since it is officially called a ukemi. Fun fact, Uprising also has a ukemi feature).

Teching/ukemi is used in various games to refer to the same things, with teching generally being the english terminology and not originating from smash.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

The game isn't even out yet and people are already kicking up a ****storm, lmao

 

[Aunt Jemima]

So, going back to what I said about Zelda being my main while Kirby is a secondary, this applies to SLHG (Smooth Lander Heavy Gravity). Way too lazy to find a link for those who don't know about it, but I've been playing it a ton, makes Smash 4 a whole lot more fun. Zelda is seriously amazing here, possibly top tier. I'm maining her instead of Kirby as she's a lot more fun to play than the pink puffball. Kirby's just U-Tilt the character here, so it gets really boring.

Anyways, here's some gifs of SLHG

He didn't actually die because DI, lol.

He actually died because DI, lol.

lern2recover

LERN2RECOVER (edit: oh man that walk at the end)

why is Locke so bad at recovering

zolda2stronk

IT ISN'T ZELDA BUT ROBOTS

lol

LOL

mutu is speaurist while shemiz/deekay/fux is lawkay

EDIT: WOW PAGESTRETCH

 

[Macchiato]

Ty Moydow.

Again, usmash comes out on frame 14. You must be playing people who are legally dead if they're consistently getting punished with such a slow move.

thats why we dont use it to punish. we use it after a true set up for a confirmed kill

Please send me one too if you can one day !
I really wanna get better with Wii Fit. I already knew about USmash after her jab combo but the nair setup is news to me.

Also, I heard you could do something with her side B and dodging but somehow I'm unable to do anything after that. Oh and last thing I wanted to ask was, is it possible for WFT to cancel her Sun Salutation like Sheik does without having to go through the dodge animation? You know, as a fake out.

If you could please tag me if you replied, it would be awesome. I'm going to go to sleep, no idea why I'm not sleeping yet TBH.

kay ill send it to you soon. the nair and the jab one. i think your talking about her mini hop lag cancel header.
Steps:

1. Short hop
2. Immediately Side-B
3. Immediately shorten Side-B

her sun salutation? she can grab out of it, spotdodge, roll, or shield. in the air she can airdodge. nothing else but she can fake out by canceling momentum with an airdodge after a deep breathing.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Messing around with Samus in training and
how is her usmash even worse than Zelda's??? thanks Sakurai

 

[FullMoon]

So I made an account on Squidboards.

Yay?

 

[Aunt Jemima]

out of it, spotdodge, roll, or shield. in the air she can airdodge. nothing else but she can fake out by canceling momentum with an airdodge after a deep breathing.

How long do you have to wait before you can jump while in shield, and how long is WFT's jump start-up thing?

 

[Indigo Jeans]

mutu is speaurist while shemiz/deekay/fux is lawkay

Reserved, why must you type like that

 

[Macchiato]

So, going back to what I said about Zelda being my main while Kirby is a secondary, this applies to SLHG (Smooth Lander Heavy Gravity). Way too lazy to find a link for those who don't know about it, but I've been playing it a ton, makes Smash 4 a whole lot more fun. Zelda is seriously amazing here, possibly top tier. I'm maining her instead of Kirby as she's a lot more fun to play than the pink puffball. Kirby's just U-Tilt the character here, so it gets really boring.

Anyways, here's some gifs of SLHG

He didn't actually die because DI, lol.

He actually died because DI, lol.

lern2recover

LERN2RECOVER

why is Locke so bad at recovering

zolda2stronk

IT ISN'T ZELDA BUT ROBOTS

lol

LOL

mutu is speaurist while shemiz/deekay/fux is lawkay

EDIT: WOW PAGESTRETCH

does this help wii fit? anyways it wont happen because of one thing. recoveries like duck hunts, robins and olimars are useless and dont help, in fact they make you fall instead of recovery. what a shame.

 

[Indigo Jeans]

How long do you have to wait before you can jump while in shield, and how long is WFT's jump start-up thing?

You can jump OoS on F1. I think WFT's jumpsquat is 5F

 

[Burgundy]

Alright I'm out of a computer now so see you tomorrow gorls. @ CatRaccoonBL save the Squidboards from anarchy.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

I'd also like to give a shoutout to jab 2 for being Samus' best taunt

 

[Lavani]

How long do you have to wait before you can jump while in shield, and how long is WFT's jump start-up thing?

You can jump out of shield immediately from frame 1, Wii Fit's jumpsquat is frame 5.

E: 'd I'm too distracted right now

 

[Aunt Jemima]

does this help wii fit? anyways it wont happen because of one thing. recoveries like duck hunts, robins and olimars are useless and dont help, in fact they make you fall instead of recovery. what a shame.

Duck Hunt/Mega Man can use customs to fix their recoveries, nobody else is nerfed so hard that they're completely useless at recovering except for Sonic.

I don't play Wii Fit Trainer at all so I can't comment on that. More N-Air at least ;D

 

[Jestar]

does this help wii fit? anyways it wont happen because of one thing. recoveries like duck hunts, robins and olimars are useless and dont help, in fact they make you fall instead of recovery. what a shame.

Also 's recovery =

 

[Macchiato]

Duck Hunt/Mega Man can use customs to fix their recoveries, nobody else is nerfed so hard that they're completely useless at recovering except for Sonic.

I don't play Wii Fit Trainer at all so I can't comment on that. More N-Air at least ;D

omg more nair combos and uair juggles. nairs gonna be safer on shield omg. reverse fair to smashes will become a thing. she will actually have grab combos. wait wouldnt his usmash be nerfed due to gravity nerfing verticle kills generally.

 

[UkeNicky]

@ UkeNicky I'm curious about your avi

Is art from this manga I'm reading lately, it's called Adekan: Elegant Men.
There's a lot of bromance and borderline boy love but it isn't actually yaoi so y'all are safe to read it if you want to. I love it though, the art is so different and unique and it's basically a murder mystery series :3
I am almost certain the series is still ongoing but it isn't like I'm even close to finishing yet, I've only just started it.

 

[Aunt Jemima]

omg more nair combos and uair juggles. nairs gonna be safer on shield omg. reverse fair to smashes will become a thing. she will actually have grab combos. wait wouldnt his usmash be nerfed due to gravity nerfing verticle kills generally.

Vertical kills are fixed with Build 2 for SLHG as the Moon Launcher Badge is used to balance out stats. It's also why characters like Mario and Kirby won't be using their U-Tilts on you until 59658343423908432490%