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Cenizas

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I've never played League or anything of that genre before but I'd totally sign up if it meant I got to play with the sistren. Who's a support type character with Zelda tier sass that I could use?
 

McKnightlíght

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I've never played League or anything of that genre before but I'd totally sign up if it meant I got to play with the sistren. Who's a support type character with Zelda tier sass that I could use?
:4zelda: Tier or










:4zelda: Tier?
 

Lavani

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I HAVE THE BIGGEST LOAD OF TRASH IN THIS SPOILER

:4zelda:

@ Lavani Lavani what is shulks vision counter window
I believe it's 5-40f on the first use, with a 70f FAF

I'm not really sure how the decay works for repeated use but it doesn't seem significant, five in a row was still 5-32f.
 

KuroganeHammer

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I believe it's 5-40f on the first use, with a 70f FAF

I'm not really sure how the decay works for repeated use but it doesn't seem significant, five in a row was still 5-32f.
i theorize it just defaults down to 32f after one use.
 

Lavani

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i theorize it just defaults down to 32f after one use.
Counting frames on use #2 suggests that you are right :teeth:

Weird number imo but whatever, that's still a larger counter window than a good chunk of counters though.
 
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Lmao League of Legends

Doesn't that game get patched like weekly!? Sm4sh patching is already hampering the development of the game, but LOL takes that to another level how even
 

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Lmao League of Legends

Doesn't that game get patched like weekly!? Sm4sh patching is already hampering the development of the game, but LOL takes that to another level how even
My Smash friend plays LoL quite a bit, so every time I complain about Smash to him, he complains about LoL's constant patching, lol.

Sharing what we hate about our competitive games with each other ~
 

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The frame 7 startup thing might be right though, MasterCore has stuff listed at frame 7. There's a "flash" graphic at frame 5 ingame that obscures the blinking and seemed like a likely starting point for the counter frames though so idk
 

CatRaccoonBL

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@ CatRaccoonBL CatRaccoonBL I'm so sorry about the lag lol.

My internet is being really wonky right now.

Didn't know you played Olimar though. That D-Air spike though =V
You know, what is Greninja Weakness? Because honestly he seems to have an answer for everything and everything. And he can force opponents to almost do what he wants. Maybe you are just that amazing with him though. >.>

I started picking him up as a secondary a short time ago. Give or take less then a week. I don't remember spiking you...

Also, I didn't notice any lag what so ever.
 

Lavani

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There's a "flash" graphic at frame 5 ingame
ok so weird as **** discovery

there are invincibility frames there instead of counter frames

counter does seem to be frame 7

You know, what is Greninja Weakness? Because honestly he seems to have an answer for everything and everything. And he can force opponents to almost do what he wants. Maybe you are just that amazing with him though. >.>

I started picking him up as a secondary a short time ago. Give or take less then a week. I don't remember spiking you...

Also, I didn't notice any lag what so ever.
Worst OoS options in the game, laggy aerials that give him no easy way to escape juggles, horribly slow standing grab are the main things that come to mind

I feel like he has a bit harder of a time killing than he should for what he is, too.
 
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FullMoon

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You know, what is Greninja Weakness? Because honestly he seems to have an answer for everything and everything. And he can force opponents to almost do what he wants. Maybe you are just that amazing with him though. >.>

I started picking him up as a secondary a short time ago. Give or take less then a week. I don't remember spiking you...

Also, I didn't notice any lag what so ever.
Greninja's main weakness is that he can't approach very well and he has pretty much no good OoS options. Also frame data.

And I meant my D-Air spike while you were trying to recover once =P

Hydro Pump is surprisingly effective against Olimar's recovery.

Also really? The matches were really stuttery for me, I dropped a lot of inputs because of it.
 

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I don't understand the FE:A hate. Chrom is so cool. I want to be him if when I grow up.
 

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Greninja's main weakness is that he can't approach very well and he has pretty much no good OoS options. Also frame data.

And I meant my D-Air spike while you were trying to recover once =P

Hydro Pump is surprisingly effective against Olimar's recovery.

Also really? The matches were really stuttery for me, I dropped a lot of inputs because of it.
Really? Because it seems like you are able to get to me just find, especially with that amazing dash grab. And frame data? Like I said, you seem to be able to go all over the place no matter what move you do. It's very hard to touch you especially with things like Nair.

Let's all not forget about Up-smash. Which I could only start avoiding by using Olimar's up-b creatively. I don't know how to deal with that. Most of my characters down-airs can't reach and even if I did try I'll just eat an up air instead.
 

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ok so weird as **** discovery

there are invincibility frames there instead of counter frames

counter does seem to be frame 7
I suppose that explains this?


Also, this was taken from the Prima guide as well, but apparently Dash vision's counter window recovers slightly faster than normal.
 

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There's so much FE:A hate cuz "oh ma gherd itz 4 casuialz nowq11!" when in reality it actually saved the series. smh
Plus since the game exists digitally, I could buy it for less than $59,327,628,526
 

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Awakening saved Fire Emblem because shipping.

Basically everyone that loves shipping (which are a lot of people) join forces and that promotes Fire Emblem (which includes the :4robinf:social). Nintendo gets profit. Shippers are with shippers. Win-win. :^)
 
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