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[Furret]

Thank you Sakurai.

but he didn't do anything

 

[Alacion]

but he didn't do anything

Good enough for me.

 

[Deleted member]

OH DEAR GOD I FOUND MY FIRST MEWTWO. Mewtwo definitely looks better in this game. Shadow Ball's pretty good. I can see the spammers now...

 

[Shrokatii]

apparently falcos better? @Ffamran

 

[Dihan]

I forward smashed a ZSS and she didn't fall out.

 

[LRodC]

I feel like Zelda got a huge landing lag reduction on most of her aerials. Up smash still has a crap hitbox. Din's seems to be faster as well as Phantom. Seems overall buffed.

 

[「 Derk 」]

I forward smashed a ZSS and she didn't fall out.

F-smash does seem to hold people a lot better now. ZSS does a really weird bounce effect during f-smash haha. Still does the same damage. Guessing U-smash holds people better now also.

Edit: I down tilted to get ZSS in the air and she still fell out of f-smash lol. It feels like it holds a lot better on the ground though. ZSS didn't fall out of a single f-smash or u-smash when used on the ground but she falls out when she is in the air.

 

[McKnightlíght]

I kind of want to main Diddy right now. Just so I can say I mained him before Sakurai buffed his neutral B to kill at 14%

 

[Shrokatii]

seems like sonic is untouched. d^ng

 

[Soul.]

What are Mewtwo's customs? Are they unlocked by default?

 

[Shrokatii]

What are Mewtwo's customs? Are they unlocked by default?

seems like he might not even have any. watch chibos stream

 

[Rizen]

I tested Link and he seems the same except jab 1 has longer end lag so jab cancel from 1 is gone. Link's moves seem untouched except his Hylian shield now blocks Fox and falco's lasers (and probably the other previously unblockable attacks).

 

[Shrokatii]

so apparently staling might be changed... interesting yet weird, i just wanna see falcon nerfs... PLEASE

 

[warionumbah2]

MK got no changes

His lag after down b is gone

Basically buffed his recovery

 

[Shrokatii]

MK got no changes

His lag after down b is gone

Basically buffed his recovery

wait what? seems the same to me

 

[Soul.]

HSB doesn't seem changed. Eh

so apparently staling might be changed... interesting yet weird, i just wanna see falcon nerfs... PLEASE

Falcon is unchanged from what I can see.

 

[Mocha]

Wait so can you really still break out of Zelda's f-smash? I was testing with someone for a bit and he wasn't able to SDI it

 

[Shrokatii]

HSB doesn't seem changed. Eh

Falcon is unchanged from what I can see.

dddaaaaaaannnnnnggggggg

i hate falcon even more now

 

[LRodC]

Falcon got a speed reduction on his up air and Sonic got a large landing lag increase. Testing on 3ds.

 

[「 Derk 」]

When Sakurai forgets about characters, Alfonzo is in charge of the balance. Alfonzo: “Idk how to fix Zelda either!”
F-smash was totally buffed girls!

I honestly want to say it holds in grounded opponents better but I can't say for sure. Opponents in the air still easily fall out of F-smash. Feels and facts are 2 completely different things.

 

[ForteX]

just played against a Zelda and need some confirmation, did Din's Fire always put her into free fall?

 

[Shrokatii]

just played against a Zelda and need some confirmation, did Din's Fire always put her into free fall?

since melee.

 

[Moydow]

just played against a Zelda and need some confirmation, did Din's Fire always put her into free fall?

Yes. Always has, and at this rate it always will

 

[ForteX]

Alright, thanks. Never have paid attention to it, and never have seen anyone use it as an option to cover their return until tonight and it didn't work out for them, it struck me as weird if it always did that.

Guess they missed an input or something.

 

[「 Derk 」]

Alright, thanks. Never have paid attention to it, and never have seen anyone use it as an option to cover their return until tonight and it didn't work out for them, it struck me as weird if it always did that.

Guess they missed an input or something.

Probably trying to love jump and reverse their momentum to float back to the stage. It's pretty easy to accidentally input Din's Fire that way.

 

[|ven|]

I don't mind this patched zelda. I do believe landing lag was decreased immensely, godbless. It was traded for Fair though. It is harder to land kicks.

 

[Shrokatii]

still no mewtwo code sent to me.... does everyone have theirs or is it just me?

 

[Zylach]

Also testing Zelda over here. She feels completely unchanged though. I'll figure out the landing lag thing when I actually face human beings tomorrow I suspect since I'm just using my 3ds in my bed right now and the 3ds controller feels weird. I got my Mewtwo codes and he feels so solid. Won't activate on Wii U yet though, only 3ds.

 

[Moydow]

still no mewtwo code sent to me.... does everyone have theirs or is it just me?

Literally just got mine

 

[RyokoYaksa]

It feels like Fsmash isn't quite so easy to fall out of anymore. Before, it wasn't unusual to fall out of the move just by holding up even if both parties had their feet on the ground. It doesn't seem like you can escape it so easily with that now.

 

[Berserker.]

feels unchanged


's b-throw survives the purge and lives on
's f-smash consistently connects on ZSS, so I guess f-smash connects properly now

 

[Meru.]

Zelda feels completely unchanged to me.

This sucks.

 

[ぱみゅ]

feels unchanged

By comparing damages with THIS LIST, I got the following:
Some stuff on Lucina:
Dtilt 8.075>~8.75
Fsmash 14>15
Dsmash2 13>14
Fair 8>~8.6
Shield Breaker (Uncharged) 8>~8.6
Shield Breaker (Fullcharge) 21>23 (WHY?)
Still untested: Dancing Blade & Variants, Counter & Variants

Every timing felt exactly the same as before.


Confirmation still pending.

 

[ActionShot]

It appears that the blind spot on f tilt is gone. can anyone else confirm?

 

[Zylach]

On a side note, Mewtwo can wall jump

 

[Berserker.]

Lucina changes

Whoops :s

My bad.

 

[Locke 06]

Lol. Watching mewtwo get wrecked on for glory.

Mega man seems to be the same. Except losing item-ftilt is actually a pretty hard.

Oh god. Mega man vs mewtwo. Shadow ball doesn't push him off the ledge like in melee... **** dtilt is so fast.

Dtilt>jab seems to be a thing for M2

 

[Shrokatii]

marths trails for his sword are different. much importance

 

[Berserker.]

I'm just gonna wait on the frame data/visual comparisons to confirm that Shulk wasn't changed at all. Damage output, Monado arts mechanics are the same. Frame speed and knockback, I'll have to wait for that.

How's Mewtwo btw?

 

[Shrokatii]

i dont have mewtwo yet, but chibo is testing marth atm

judging from videos he seems mid tier for me. yet hes JUST released and no frame data or tactics have been found lol