Zelda Franchise Discussion

[Robert of Normandy]

OoT and WW are the same Ganondorf. TP is another one entirely.

No, the FSA is the different one. TP is the same Ganon as OoT, WW, ALttP, and Zelda 1, just in a different universe.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

No, the FSA is the different one. TP is the same Ganon as OoT, WW, ALttP, and Zelda 1, just in a different universe.

Really? Could have sworn they were different.

 

[volbound1700]

So I picked up and played my original NES Adventures of Link last night. Within an hour and a half I played through one game of three lifes and beat the 1st palace, went and got the hammer, and beat the second palace. I lost my final life in the 3rd palace (I lost 1 life in a fall that hurt my chances).

I ended this game with lvl 6 life, lvl 5 magic, and lvl 5 attack.

Probably not the best run all time but it has to be up there.

 

[volbound1700]

OOT is Ganon's start. The time line splits so although it is the same person, it is him in a different universe.

 

[Diddy Kong]

You know, one thing always bothered me. How come those Sages in TP could capture Ganondorf to sentence him to death?

 

[volbound1700]

Diddy, I always thought that story followed shortly after OOT and that Link had beaten Ganon and he was turned over to the Sages to judge.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

-Ganon is the same guy every time
-Each Zelda is a descendant, in the royal family
-Each Link is a reincarnation

 

[Robert of Normandy]

-Ganon is the same guy every time

Except in FSA. Hyrule Historia confirms it's a reincarnation, NOT the same Ganon as the other games.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Except in FSA. Hyrule Historia confirms it's a reincarnation, NOT the same Ganon as the other games.

So there are a few reincarnations? Well, ok, I can see that.

 

[Big-Cat]

Except in FSA. Hyrule Historia confirms it's a reincarnation, NOT the same Ganon as the other games.

So I guess that means that we can see Ganondorf again in the Wind Waker timeline.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

So I guess that means that we can see Ganondorf again in the Wind Waker timeline.

It's a possibility, though as stated the FSA Ganon is not the same as in TP(they share a universe), so a future WW-timeline Ganon wouldn't have memory of what happened in WW.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Aren't they the same person, just with a different body?

It's a reincarnation, which means they have the same soul.

Does it specifically say reincarnation? Because in Zelda 2 it seems his followers have rituals that can summon him back into the world of the living

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Does it specifically say reincarnation? Because in Zelda 2 it seems his followers have rituals that can summon him back into the world of the living

Yes, in Hyrule Historia it specifically says reincarnation. If you play FSA, it's made clear that this Ganondorf is entirely new.

 

[TheCreator]

Tiiiiiiiiiingle for smash

 

[Fastblade5035]

Tingle for assist trophy

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Tingle for assist trophy

Pretty much this.

 

[FalKoopa]

Tiiiiiiiiiingle for smash

Why not?

 

[Big-Cat]

 

[DoubleAgentXies616]

Ok, whoever STILL THINKS Toon Link is not as relevant anymore, has not heard of the upcoming Wind Waker Remake for Wii U.
I believe Toon Link will return, I think they shouldn't fix what isn't broken!
That means sticking with the Zelda/Sheik combination (Sheik was a top in Melee and was hard to master in Brawl), and Ganondorf cannot possibly be taken out, being the main antagonist.

Or if Ganon were to be taken out, maybe to be replaced with Girahim? I would HATE to see that happen but it could happen.
Or maybe Vaatii? Not everyone who knows about TLOZ knows him, but Nintendo can do some weird choices!

Still, I think all triforce characters ought to stay, obviously updating the Adult Link to his most recent version. And PLEEEEASE, making him and the rest of the triforce chars strong AGAIN.

 

[Bowserlick]

Toon Link would be more flavorful if he had all new special moves (items from his games).

 

[Frostwraith]

Ok, whoever STILL THINKS Toon Link is not as relevant anymore, has not heard of the upcoming Wind Waker Remake for Wii U.

Those who say that Toon Link is irrelevant need to do their own research. Then again, what exactly is "character relevancy?"

Out of the 16 Zelda games, 7 have the cel-shaded Link. Doing the math, 7/16 = 43,75%... that's little less than half of the entire franchise (excluding remakes, except ALttP remake for GBA due to having Four Swords as a multiplayer mode).

Besides, Sakurai always defended that it wouldn't feel right to not have a younger Link. Considering we're getting a Wind Waker remake, I think Toon Link's chances may be better than some think.

And it's not like he can't be unique from Link... he could have Bombchu, the Whip, Deku Leaf, Skull Hammer and many other items from his games.

 

[FalKoopa]

I uncovered a disturbing piece of evidence from Toon Link's Dojo Page:

Those who have played Link should enjoy playing Toon Link, too. As a rule, the special moves are the same.

 

[Frostwraith]

I uncovered a disturbing piece of evidence from Toon Link's Dojo Page:

SAKURAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI!!!

Seriously, sometimes I fail to understand Sakurai's mentality.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah well Skyward Link shouldn't use a boomerang, and Toon Link cannot use Skyward Strike. Hopefully that makes things a little different for them.

Also, the Hurricane Spin varries a lot from regular Spin Attacks, and Toon Link could use elemental arrows as well.

 

[DragonSniperNintendo]

Skyward Link can roll bombs, Toon Link can not

 

[Gallowglass]

My opinion
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, and Toon/Young/Kid Link will make a return.

I don't believe there will be any playable additions but if I was a betting man this would be my chances.
Tingle > Impa > Toon variations > Other reoccurring character (King of Hyrule, Kome/Kotake, The Goddesses, etc...) > One shot favs (Skull Kid, Darunia, etc...)

Side note how did Kome and Kotake appear in Oracle of Ages/Season when they clearly died in OOT?

Anyways, this isn't to say that you may see recent characters appear as assist trophies. Ghirahim and Groose might show up as an AT. This is just practical and not a dream team. I certainly do ot wish for Tingle to be in it but he does seem the most likely out of all the character of the Zelda Universe.

 

[Spire]

Side note how did Kome and Kotake appear in Oracle of Ages/Season when they clearly died in OOT?

Because the Zelda timeline is ********.

Undocumented resurrection or reincarnations or something, I dunno.

 

[FalKoopa]

Side note how did Kome and Kotake appear in Oracle of Ages/Season when they clearly died in OOT?

How does Ganondorf come back a thousand times despite being killed by Link?

 

[Sharkarat]

My opinion

I don't believe there will be any playable additions but if I was a betting man this would be my chances.
Tingle > Impa > Toon variations > Other reoccurring character (King of Hyrule, Kome/Kotake, The Goddesses, etc...) > One shot favs (Skull Kid, Darunia, etc...)

I agree with that, but personally I would add Vaati.
Tingle > Impa > Vaati > Toon variations > Other reoccurring character > One shot favs

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I really doubt Impa and Vaati would be playable

 

[Sharkarat]

I really doubt Impa and Vaati would be playable

Well also agreed with this part of his post:

I don't believe there will be any playable additions

 

[Gallowglass]

How does Ganondorf come back a thousand times despite being killed by Link?

Well one Ganondorf has the Triforce of Power and essentially a god. He can be stabbed in the face and still talk to you like it was just a mere flesh wound. When he does die he requires the blood of Link to resurrect himself (feature in Zelda 2). Its possible that Links from different ages were killed by followers of Ganon which made him revive. This doesn't count the times he was simply imprisoned like in OOT.

I agree with that, but personally I would add Vaati.
Tingle > Impa > Vaati > Toon variations > Other reoccurring character > One shot favs

I kinda position Vaati with the "other reoccuring character" section though I feel he hasn't really stood out as a main villain. Though the only game I've played him in was Four Swords Adventures and he didn't stand out that much to me. I certainly don't have enough information about him to know where he stands.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I kinda position Vaati with the "other reoccuring character" section though I feel he hasn't really stood out as a main villain. Though the only game I've played him in was Four Swords Adventures and he didn't stand out that much to me. I certainly don't have enough information about him to know where he stands.

Vaati was the main villain for Minish Cap and both of the Four Swords games. He's only beaten by Ganon for number of appearances.

If you're not sure, do some research. You're already on the internet.

 

[Frostwraith]

ZeldaWiki is a good place to start for those who don't know much about the series or haven't played a particular game. I think it's a one of the more complete wikis of all I found on the internet.

 

[Sharkarat]

I kinda position Vaati with the "other reoccuring character" section though I feel he hasn't really stood out as a main villain. Though the only game I've played him in was Four Swords Adventures and he didn't stand out that much to me. I certainly don't have enough information about him to know where he stands.

He probably stand out more as a main villain in the other two where he actually is the main villain and not just second to ganon. Atleast I feel that he is more important than other "other reoccuring characters".

And the the only toon variation i realy think has a chance is Toon Zelda/Sheik/Tetra, but I don't know where I would put her likehood except somwhere between Vaati and higher than Tingle.

 

[FalKoopa]

I kinda position Vaati with the "other reoccuring character" section though I feel he hasn't really stood out as a main villain. Though the only game I've played him in was Four Swords Adventures and he didn't stand out that much to me. I certainly don't have enough information about him to know where he stands.

You want to know more about Vaati? Play Minish Cap. You'll learn to love him.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I think Impa is way more likely than Tingle. Or any other potential newcomer whatsoever for the Zelda series.

 

[FalKoopa]

I think Impa is way more likely than Tingle. Or any other potential newcomer whatsoever for the Zelda series.

Tingle has appeared in more games than Impa.

Moreover, Nintendo loves him!

 

[Diddy Kong]

But everyone else hates him.

 

[FalKoopa]

But everyone else hates him.

Haters gonna hate.