Yugioh anyone?

[Hot_ArmS]

Hey all, I'm looking to get back into yugioh. I don't have any cards now and haven't played in 7-8 years though. Is there any advice you guys could give me to get back up to speed? Any particular decks that might be good (and not overly expensive) to start off with? Any particular structure decks or anything I should pick up? I had a great understanding of the game back in the day but since it's been so long I'm really not sure where to begin now.

play on duelingnetwork.com first so you have a current understanding of the meta and what builds are popular

 

[Vyke]

Understanding the Meta on Dueling Network?

I'd suggest finding a local to go to and getting used to that meta instead, and forming a group of reliable friends to play it with. Are you still in Pitt, Engel? We've got a fairly competitive scene. Greentree Sports Cards has weird hours, but it's got a pretty big showing during it's hours.

 

[Engel]

Yeah I'm still around, just been busy with work. Guess I'll have to find time to make a smash Friday or something so you guys can coach me up haha.

 

[Vyke]

I don't really go to Duq/Smash Fridays much anymore. You might be able to find Lake/Aaron at them and catch some info off of him, but all of his decks are at my house, haha.

Greentree is probably the closest place you'll find near you. Mr. Nice Guys is a bit north of Pittsburgh, but the shop owner is a pretty good guy. I go to the Clearview Mall New Dimension Comics in Butler every Wednesday/Saturday if you're anywhere near there. There's also a New Dimension Comics in The Pittsburgh Mills run by one of my friends, but I don't know how active their scene is.

 

[camerino1]

So guys, I'm wanting to test out my burn deck on some top-tier decks. If anyone's wanting, I'm willing to play whenever. I really like this deck right now and I've not lost a set yet with it. I want to see what can beat me so I can prepare something to work against that.

 

[C.SDK]

Omg, I didn't know a thread for Yugioh existed. Basically, I want to start playing again but I forgot how to play and all the cards I have are extremely old.

Halp.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

So guys, I'm wanting to test out my burn deck on some top-tier decks. If anyone's wanting, I'm willing to play whenever. I really like this deck right now and I've not lost a set yet with it. I want to see what can beat me so I can prepare something to work against that.

Do you mean irl or online?

 

[Vyke]

Omg, I didn't know a thread for Yugioh existed. Basically, I want to start playing again but I forgot how to play and all the cards I have are extremely old.

Halp.

Buy any of the new Starter or Structure decks that have come within the past year. They all contain amazing cards and an updated rulebook.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I went to the abyss rising sneak peak today and took 1st, got my mat. But I pulled gaaarbaage. It's really frustrating that I've been wanting to play mermails ever since they came out (even back when people thought they were bad), but konami trolled the rarities so hard that it's going to be one of, if not the most expensive deck. I'm ALREADY seeing people misplaying with bad (both because it's a sneak peak and because they have no idea how to play/build them) mermail builds. One of the most frustrating things ever. Some dude tried to use Abysscale - Kraken to negate and destroy a card, then when I told him that's not how it even worked, he wanted to take back Abysscale's effect, and he didn't even know that the card is freaking mandatory.

Honestly screw mermails for being the deck I want but cannot get. Now I'm going to have to make some crazy Slushy deck or just an Atlantean deck of some sort.

 

[Vyke]

Fish Swarm is where it's at.

Different Dimension Trench op

 

[DtJ S2n]

More like beatdown, but yeah close enough. DDT is really bad though, you don't want to miss a fishborg early on, and you have to do a combo play to get at best a snowdust dragon out, which is just going to get bull blader'd or memory of an adversary'd or mind pollutant'd or mecha poseidra'd.

Abyss Warrior is the card that was really busted.

 

[camerino1]

On DN. I don't have enough money for a new meta deck, so I just stick with my Mystic Swordsman/warrior deck from 5 years ago. It was pretty good in its day. Anywho, I also think I have a deck I'd like Pinkreaper to try out sometime on his channel

 

[deepseadiva]

Fish Swarm is where it's at.

Different Dimension Trench op

Trench is SWEETNEES.

Abyss Rising hell yes I'm back into this game. WATER is back!!

 

[Vyke]

More like beatdown, but yeah close enough. DDT is really bad though, you don't want to miss a fishborg early on, and you have to do a combo play to get at best a snowdust dragon out, which is just going to get bull blader'd or memory of an adversary'd or mind pollutant'd or mecha poseidra'd.

Abyss Warrior is the card that was really busted.

I'm talking actual fish, not any of this new age junk.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Superancient_Deepsea_King_Coelacanth + http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Different_Dimension_Deepsea_Trench + Heavy Storm / Storm / Double Cyclone / etc.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nimble_Sunfish
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Nimble_Angler
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Metabo-Shark
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Oyster_Meister
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Royal_Swamp_Eel

God help us all when Xyz Remora comes out, though.

 

[GwJ]

So I'm really rusty at building my decks and since I had no internet, I couldn't netdeck (nor do I really want to), so could you guys critique my 3 decks?

Lightsworns:

Spoiler

Monsters:
Aurkus, Lightsworn Druid x1
Lumina, Lightsworn Summoner x2
Jain, Lightsworn Paladin x2
Ryko, Lightsworn Hunter x2
Wulf, Lightsworn Beast x2
Ehren, Lightsworn Monk x1
Garoth, Lightsworn Warrior x1
Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress x2
Judgment Dragon x3
Tour Guide x2
Sangan x1
Marshmallon x1
Honest x1
Gorz x1
Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning x1

Spells:
Charge of the Light Brigade x1
Solar Recharge x3
Pot of Duality x2
Monster Reborn x1
Dark Hole x1
Reinforcement of the Army x1
Heavy Storm x1
Monster Reincarnation x1
Seal of Orichalcos (Testing out its usefulness) x1

Traps:
Solemn Judgment x1
Torrential Tribute x2
Bottomless Trap Hole x2

Extra Deck:
Number 11: Big Eye x1
Number 20: Giga-Brilliant x1
Number 34: Terror-Byte x1
Number 39: Utopia x1
(Shares most with Evolsaurs since I don't have enough extras to have 2)

Side Deck:
Sephylon, the Ultimate Timelord x3
Lightray Daedalus x3
Beckoning Light x1
Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer x1
Lyla, Lightsworn Sorceress x1
Soul Release x3
MST x3

*NOTE* Added 3 Soul Release and 3 MST to side deck (will tech in MSTs later)

Evols:

Spoiler

Monsters:
Evoltile Gephyro x2
Evoltile Pleuro x2
Evoltile Odonto x3
Evoltile Casinerio x1
Evoltile Westlo x2
Evolsaur Cerato x3
Evolsaur Vulcano x2
Evolsaur Pelta x2
Evolsaur Diplo x2
Evolsaur Terias x2
Evolsaur Elias x2 (I'd make it 1 and 3, but I don't have a third Elias)

Spells:
Dark Hole x1
Heavy Storm x1
Monster Reborn x1
Mystical Space Typhoon x1
Evo-Force x1
Fossil Dig x1
Evo-Diversity x2

Traps:
Solemn Judgment x1
Solemn Warning x2
Mirror Force x1
Fiendish Chain x2
Evolutionary Bridge x2
Dimension Slice x1

Extra:
Gachi Gachi x1
Number 17: Leviathan Dragon x1
Number 39: Utopia x1
Maestroke x1
Number 16: Shock Master x1
Laggia x3
Dolkka x2
Solda x3
Photon Strike Bounzer x1
Number 25: Force Focus x1

Side:
Evoltile Lagosucho x1
Dimension Slice x2
Evo-Price x2
Evo-Instant x1
Evo-Branch x3

*NOTE* Added 2 Evo-Price, 1 Evo-Instant, and 3 Evo-Branch to side

Plants:

Spoiler

Monsters:
Level Eater x1
Naturia Cherries x3
Tuningware x2
Treeborn Frog x1
Effect Veiler x3
Doppelwarrior x2
Ryko x3
Junk Synchron x3
Tour Guide x2
Sangan x1
Birdman x1
Dandylion x1
Debris Dragon x1
Quickdraw Synchron x1
Tragoedia x2
Gorz x1
Dark Armed Dragon x1
BLS x1

Spells:
Dark Hole x1
Heavy Storm x1
Monster Reborn x1
Mind Control x1
ROTA x1
One for One x1
Pot of Avarice x1
The Warrior Returning Alive x1
MST x1

Traps:
Call of the Haunted x1

Extra:
Formula Synchron x1
Armory Arm x1
Dark Diviner x1
Catastor x1
Frozen Fitzgerald x1
Drill Warrior x1
Gaia Knight x1
Black Rose Dragon x1
Junk Berserker x1
Scrap Dragon x1
Stardust Dragon x1
Colossal Fighter x1
Number 17: Leviathan Dragon x1
Wind-Up Zenmaines x1
Leviair the Sea Dragon x1

Side:
D.D. Crow x1
Maxx "C" x1
Royal Prison x1
Royal Decree x1
MST x2

*NOTE* Added 2 MST to side

So, those are my 3 decks I currently run (although I plan on rebuilding my Inzektors sometime soon). For reference on how to critique, my most common opponent mains Dark Worlds and also runs Six Sams, Atlanteans (whatever set just came out, he uses that. Only played it once or twice and had to proxy, beat him each time), and Crystal Beasts.

My most common loss is my Lightsworns against his Dark Worlds because since I run just a heavy storm and no MST, Skill Drain kills me each time. I need to tech in some MST, but I'm not sure where.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Oh my bad vyke I coulda sworn you were talking about sneak peak format. Yeah FishTK swag etc. And yeah remora gon be crazy you're totally right.

GW, I've never known lightsworns to run traps, though I'm really not a LS player. But regardless, in this format, most everybody has switched over to using a lot of handtraps. Tragoedia, Effect Veiler, and Maxx C, try to fit something from those in if you can? I don't like orihalcos but it's cool you're testing it. Just know that it's going to make your Gorz extremely dead. That's all I really know about LS.

No comment on evols, again not something I know of. For the junk-doppel plants, all I can tell you is that you probably want more than 1 MST.

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

As someone that plays Evols all the time, I can tell you that there are really only ~7 good Evoltile and Evolsaur monsters, of course, if this is for IRL I do know that the good ones kind of cost money. Good monsters and why:

Evoltiles:

Westlo - The bread and butter, should be at 3.
Najasho - Hilariously powerful with Evo-Force, good with Enemy Controller (which should be in, especially if you have Casino) This can go to three, especially if you want to run trib
Casinerio - A quick one-for-two if you can kill something, shouldn't be run past one, can be left out.
Odonto - A very iffy card. Best used should you draw Vulcano. I like having one for such occasions.

Evolsaurs

Cerato - 2100 when special summoned AND searches when it kills something. Has 1900 to crash with pesky Thunder Kings. Definitely goes at three.
Diplo - S/T destruction with backrow crazy decks running around is good. 1600 attack, is not. I like to keep it at 2.
Vulcano - An amazing effect that nets you a rank four when successful, however, at 1200 it is often a bad idea to run more than 2. 1 is okay, but having 2 gives you its ability twice.

I only suggest against the 5+ guys because they're even slower than Evols already are, and it gives you more room for the great Rank 4s that exist. I can tell you now that Force should be at 3 (it's so good, why wouldn't it be at 3?) I'd suggest at least trying out E-con (especially if you plan on using Casino) but I can tell you it's pretty great. Forbidden lance is also nice as it'll protect Evolzars from harmful spells/traps AND make big monsters weaker.

 

[GwJ]

Thanks for the advice, I'll work on that. It's hard to find someone else who plays Evols, so it's hard to get advice.

 

[DtJ S2n]

I have a friend who plays Evols and has built them a lot of different ways. I'll talk to him sometime about it and get word back to you.

 

[AxelSlam]

yugimons. i forgot about this thread.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Yo jump, Treeborn is def a good card but only if you're running some support to put it in the grave. With just treeborn you're really just hoping for a Ryko Mill to make it work(Level Eater at least becomes instantly live if you ditch it with Quickdraw)

If you're not playing Foolish or Swap Frog you'd be better off just not running Treeborn. I'd run another MST or a Tuning over it if i were you.

 

[GwJ]

Man, Tuning is like 4,000 dollars. I did buy a Spore on Amazon for like 1 dollar, so I'm gonna tech that in for Treeborn I think.

 

[ViperGold42]

Hey everyone, been awhile since I've been here, how is everyone and can someone give me a good Hieratic, Dark World OR top meta deck, can't seem to find any good ones on DN

 

[MysteryRevengerson]

Cosmo Blazer's been out a few days on DN, Heraldics too fun, Lightning Plover too good.

Good ****ing game

 

[Seagull Joe]

Been getting super into Ygo recently. Using a gravekeeper's deck on DN.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

Yeee Seagull finally got into it. You go to any locals yet?

 

[Seagull Joe]

Not yet. Will the following week.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

Seagull bring your deck to ps5

 

[Seagull Joe]

Seagull bring your deck to ps5

Kay.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

Also bring it and your trades (if any) to Crash 2 this Saturday if you do decide to go.

 

[Seagull Joe]

Also bring it and your trades (if any) to Crash 2 this Saturday if you do decide to go.

Doing a smashfest with the crew this weekend.

 

[ThunderSt0rm]

Doing a smashfest with the crew this weekend.

Ah alright. Just bring your yugioh stuff whenever you go to tourneys if you feel like it. That's what I've been doing for w/e I go to in case I find people to play lol

 

[ViperGold42]

this thread is so dead

 

[Vyke]

Peeps be busy with classes n' junk.

 

[DtJ S2n]

Fire Kings are pretty good but I think a lot of people are overhyping them. I think they'll be good enough to make people start dropping torrential though lmao. I think that Compulse is the new trap of choice for the format. Chainability, versatility, and the ability to take out threats already out like TKing is too important for a lot of decks.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I haven't played Yu Gi Oh since high school, which was MANY years ago. My favorite card back then was Thousand-Eyes Restrict

Kind of similar to Ditto being my favorite pokemon card back in the day

My favorite strategy seems to be letting the opponent destroy themselves

 

[GwJ]

Your favorite card got banned, son.

 

[Claire Diviner]

Isn't there, like, a million ways around Thousand-Eyes now, or can that card really pose that much of a threat to warrant banning?

 

[GwJ]

There's ways to get around anything. But I think this part of the effect is what killed it: "Other monsters cannot change their battle position or attack."

With that and the whole equipping thing, you're free to do what you want. And if you just want to get rid of the monsters on your opponents side of the field, you can either just grab the strongest one and attack them all or grab a weaker one that's protected some other way and crash it.

The only way to kill it is to veiler it and successfully attack it next turn or destroy it via card effect.

Sure, it's doable, but I think Konami judges things on the basis of "Can a deck reasonably be expected to deal with this?" If it turns out most decks can't deal with something like this reasonably, then that may be how it gets banned.

 

[Vyke]

There are plenty of ways around Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of The End as well. That isn't the point.

Usually anything that hits the ban list is because it's too efficient at what it does for very little risk or cost, or has some broke *** combo with another card (such as with Butterfly Dagger - Elma and Gearfried the Iron Knight.)