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~ Gheb ~

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I could make a long, reasoned case but it'd probably be bull****.

I don't see scum bed playing toDay like this - it's part of the reason I think Kev IS scum - their polar plays.
lol wtf dat ain't even an explanation and u kno it. like ur supposed 2 tell meh y bed isnt a play n u tell meh some bullcrap bout his n kevs "polar" play? yea sorry broski but that **** aint gonna convince me.

unvote vote bedevere

thinkin' its best 2 b playin' it liek on d1 since it helped us teh most. wouldnt b surprised if x1 is doin' so as well.

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regardin' kevmo i gotta say i dun liek him either tbh. liek kev, u cant expect 2 just attack all dem ppl who think ur suspect by sayin'g they dum or scum. n u say ur a valuable playah - hate 2 break it down for ya but atm ur not exactly of much value to us, u kno?

n dis back n forth btween kev / swiss don make much sense 2 me tbh. cuz liek its lookin' kinda weird for kev 2 have a list of suspects n again hes sittin' on swiss all teh time. idk wut 2 think of dat.

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run it past me why Swiss is still alive..

waiting on sword to vote swiss

waiting for bed to read and realise there's no Nabe support and vote swiss
 

#HBC | Dancer

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This game makes no sense. So many scummy people with such wierd play all around.

vote Swiss

Swiss dies, toDay.

Bed is scummy, yes, I agree. His scum hunting seems so awkard and forced in general, and I'm not really buying it. Reaaaaaaaallllllllyyyy would prefer Swiss toDay, though.

@X1: What if Kuz flipped guilty after you would of supposedly claimed you had a guilty on him?
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Lol, made an error in my last post:


This game makes no sense. So many scummy people with such wierd play all around.

vote Swiss

Swiss dies, toDay.

Bed is scummy, yes, I agree. His scum hunting seems so awkard and forced in general, and I'm not really buying it. Reaaaaaaaallllllllyyyy would prefer Swiss toDay, though.

@X1: What if Kuz flipped inoncent after you would of supposedly claimed you had a guilty on him?
fix in bold
 

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regardin' kevmo i gotta say i dun liek him either tbh. liek kev, u cant expect 2 just attack all dem ppl who think ur suspect by sayin'g they dum or scum. n u say ur a valuable playah - hate 2 break it down for ya but atm ur not exactly of much value to us, u kno?

n dis back n forth btween kev / swiss don make much sense 2 me tbh. cuz liek its lookin' kinda weird for kev 2 have a list of suspects n again hes sittin' on swiss all teh time. idk wut 2 think of dat.

:059:
Are you kidding me, are you reading this ****ing game? You haven't made solid cases and yes I think a lot of the players in this game are currently dumb or scum, or just ****ing dumb.

Sorry but DH's case, Nabe's play, stuff like that isn't neccesarily the most helpful thing I've ever seen.

Let me break it down for you again, DH's entire case is based on the fact that I've commited logical fallacies, not of my stances, but of the way I speak in all games. Damn right I'm condescending nor do I care.

Nabe comes in and asks if there is a solid case against Bed or if one has even been made when I made a pretty solid one just ONE page back, the kid is clearly skimming because he would see some pretty hefty information on a number of players if he would just read ALL of the bigger posts.

Also why is there seemingly no discussion on Swiss a man with a guilty on him from X1 who has CONTINUED to press the issue of knowing he's scum all of D2. Why is that being neglected, why are people not discussing that?


Kevin has resigned his case pretty much.
Wow... no words. How about this for AtR.. YOU'RE A ****ING NUISANCE AND BAD AT THIS GAME.

Has there been a case on Bed? Anything notable? Am I missing something?

Gheb, Gova: why Bed? Why not Kev with posts like 721? At Gheb specifically: why Bed over Swiss?
Again I'm going to assume you're BLATANTLY skimming because there has been a case made in the last 40 pasts on Bed, and if you were to read it, you would see it has innumerable reasons why Bed is playing the scummiest possible game he can and basically being allowed to get away with it by using his prod dodge abilities.

run it past me why Swiss is still alive..

waiting on sword to vote swiss

waiting for bed to read and realise there's no Nabe support and vote swiss
Would like for this to happen as well

This game makes no sense. So many scummy people with such wierd play all around.

vote Swiss

Swiss dies, toDay.

Bed is scummy, yes, I agree. His scum hunting seems so awkard and forced in general, and I'm not really buying it. Reaaaaaaaallllllllyyyy would prefer Swiss toDay, though.

@X1: What if Kuz flipped guilty after you would of supposedly claimed you had a guilty on him?
I would LOVE for Swiss or Bed to go today, there really isn't a reason to go on any other player today.

Also

Unvote
Vote Swiss

Pretty sure my vote was already on him but I'm making sure that this wagon gets rolling. We have two days guys can we please act like we want to win this game and start discussing.

It still blows my mind that for an entire day I dealt with a kid playing the fallacy game and NOONE else had any say or opinion the entire day this close to deadline.
 

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Wow... no words. How about this for AtR.. YOU'RE A ****ING NUISANCE AND BAD AT THIS GAME.
Well, you had said that you wouldn't respond unless I "brought up something new", which basically means that you're done with my case. And since you ended it, you pretty much gave up.

What's more, what was that about metaing? Impossible to meta you after how many times you've been scum? Yet you're saying this is how you usually talk? Wouldn't that mean that this is how you usually talk as scum?

Downgrading to blatantly insulting me just makes you look worse.

GGs
 

#HBC | Nabe

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I didn't miss it, but it also doesn't answer my question.
Bed is playing a ridiculously scummy game, giving us barely any information, being on Swiss' wagon the entire day yesterday saying that he was tunnling because of the cop, which is a super safe game, unlike yesterday where I tunneled Swiss until NEW information came out. Bed hardly seemed phased by the new information and continued to push for the Swiss lynch until the day ended.

Then we get to D2, Bed starts off by making a few baseless accusations and just ends it with

"Just realized all my reads have been gut/meta reads, will re-read and post more tomorrow"

Guys I implore you give me a firm stance that Bed has given this entire game.
I assume this is the post you mean. Bed has been johning, Bed has no stances. That's not really a "solid" case like you say.

I asked if there was anything notable; this isn't. I also asked why the day had become Bed v. you; I assume you didn't generate that result yourself. That's the question I'm asking that I'd like answered (obv. not by you) because if there were reason for Bed v. Kev, I'd want to take that into account.

With things as Swiss v. Kev, right now I'm happy with my vote where it is.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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4. KevinM- (3): Swiss, BSL, Dark Horse

7. Swiss- (3): Nabe, KevinM, Sworddancer

13. Sir Bedevere- (1): GhEEb

9. Nabe- (1): Sir Bedevere

1. X1-12- (0)

2. DarkHorse- (0)

3. GhEEb-(0)

6. Gova- (0)

8. SwordDancer- (0)

12. BSL- (0)

Strikes:

X1-12: 2

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch. Deadline is Dec. 22nd at 2:00 EST.


EDIT:

KevinM said:
Wow... no words. How about this for AtR.. YOU'RE A ****ING NUISANCE AND BAD AT THIS GAME.
OP said:
1. Have fun and do not personally attack another player in an offensive manner.
I'm not gonna modkill you for it any time soon, but this can come off as douchy. I mean, yea, I'd probz do the exact same thing as you if I were in your position, but try not to get so pissed off next time haha. I lol'd though :p, I did.
 

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around that point sword i'd have given town 1 scum and 1 town its good enough for me to live, plus id get another investigation.

@Gheb: can you vote swiss plz?
 

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I'm sure he will be soon. What are you doing with your vote, Sword? That's the question.

I'll take a Bed lynch over 'lil 'ol Swissaii but would prefer Kev.

I'd make a case as to why Bed shouldn't be lynched, but he's just gone inactive - and more importantly, he's a dead man [not] typing. All I'll do is make my own lynch more likely by saving him, right?

No point getting myself lynched.
 

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@ Nabe, this paragraph in particular stood out when I was reading. I don't think it was addressed Day 1 either.

Not understanding the kuz hate. Maybe someone could condense his scumminess into one post or something, but all I'm hearing is a lot of "kuz, why'd you say that?" and "why'd you do that in RVS?", which are questions more often asked to a newer player. Aside from fake-claiming N0 cop in RVS and maybe thinking Swiss and X1 are both town (which doesn't make sense IMO), I don't know what else he's done wrong, and I don't think anyone has actually said they thought he was town/not scummy (maybe Gheb did?), which makes it more likely that scum are just hiding amongst all the wagoners and will try and push a kuz lynch after we get their Swissai scumbuddai. If Swiss flips scum, I'd actually consider kuz a lot less likely to be mafia than if Swiss flips town, both because of that, and simply because I think Swiss would have gotten him to stop saying weird things to lead town away from getting 2 scum in a row.
This looks like a noob card defense to me. Those were the reasons people likely thought Kuz was scum. Saying everything was a joke was scummy and it really reduced the validity of anything Kuz said.

Bed, why would you prefer a me/nabe lynch over Swiss when the situation between Swiss/X1hasn't changed at all? Do you not think there's scum between Swiss/X1?
 

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I did a bit of a reread and fixed my reads for the eleventh time (:awesome:).

Nabe is more town than I originally thought. My initial dry reread had me not remembering much of what he did or said, but an ISO on his posts showed he was doing things and was making some stances. More ok with him now.

Gova is still "eh". Little contribution, and I don't like how he was very slightly defending Kuz D1 in places. Has very little presence, and I can see that possibly being because mafia are down to 1 person (are we sure of that? I have an inkling as to what caused the 2nd NK, but I'll need to see D3 to be sure) and sticking out too much and dying will cause his faction to lose.

^yes, I have a town read on the person defending me and a scum one on the one pressuring me, lol. It sort of just happened like that.

Kevin is better. I get pro-town intent from his posts, and I can't really see him bussing kuz the way he did unless there are 3 mafia. The "rage" and large posts are something of a town tell to me; in Villains mafia, van started the game off with large posts and lots of content and literally told us "I'm glad to finally be town" after coming out of Dgames mafia (I think) and playing a lurky scum game, and I didn't really need to read half of what he was saying to get a town read on him. Here, Kevin has sort of replaced the "lots of content" part with "lots of rage", but I still get the general "this guy is REALLY happy to finally be town again" vibes that I got from van.

Swiss I like more. I like what he's done in the game and the whole "plan" they had D1 is really making me not want to lynch him, simply because, looking back, I could understand how he realized what X1's plan was and I could see him doing what he did as town more than I could as scum. I'm also seeing slightly more reasoning in his reason for his case on Kevin, although it's still not really something I'd want to lynch Kevin over.

@Sir B: Will you vote Swiss?
I'd rather not vote Swiss, or Kevin. IMO they're both town, and I don't like that this Day has degenerated into "either Kevin or Swiss (or me >.>)". Gova lynch seems better to me because he isn't doing much and, if there's really 2 mafia left (as I think you suspect, X1), he's much more likely to be it than either Swiss or Kevin.

If you're gonna twist my tit on this, though, then I have to say no, I'd rather lynch Kevin. I think I overall get the most townie-vibes from what Kevin's been saying, but I think long-term, having Swiss around is more likely to kick up scum than Kevin will.

Bed, why would you prefer a me/nabe lynch over Swiss when the situation between Swiss/X1hasn't changed at all? Do you not think there's scum between Swiss/X1?
Because I feel like one of you is scum (probably you, now) while I don't feel the same about X1/Swiss.

No, not anymore.

unvote, vote: Gova

does anyone else think swiss/kevin are both town?
 

#HBC | Gorf

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4. KevinM- (3): Swiss, BSL, Dark Horse

7. Swiss- (3): Nabe, KevinM, Sworddancer

6. Gova- (1): Sir Bedevere

13. Sir Bedevere- (1): GhEEb

1. X1-12- (0)

2. DarkHorse- (0)

3. GhEEb- (0)

8. SwordDancer- (0)

9. Nabe- (0):

12. BSL- (0)

Strikes:

X1-12: 2

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch. Deadline is Dec. 22nd at 2:00 EST.
 

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I'm going to switch my vote to sir b after that post. I haven't really given much credit to posts against him, when I should have.

Unvote vote sir b

I like Kevin as a person. This has nothing to do with the game, or how scummy he is, just his response to DH was awesome.
 

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ayo, just got an 8 hour ride bhind meh n im tired as shít. postin' soonish, skimmed over a couple o' posts n i got stuff 2 say. makin' sure imma say it b4 deadline tho just gimme a lil time n imma b back beastin' yo

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Gheb if you can't swap switch up a Bed lynch, you gonna give me Kev on a platter, right?

BSL do you want Kev lynched, or is he just the best option? Wrt how hard you actually pushed it.
 

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I'm not out for kevblood. I'd say he's about even for best option with sir b.
 

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Oh, missed your question about Gova.

Straight coastin', yo. His lack of activity was why I asked the question about prod times. It was close to the 48 hour mark for him. I'll reread him later when I get more time to see if his inactivity is scummy or not.
 

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Gheb if you can't swap switch up a Bed lynch, you gonna give me Kev on a platter, right?
sorry bro but idk wut u mean thur. liek, wut does teh 1 thing have 2 do with teh other?

n kevin u simply dont convince me. some1 of ur xperience should kno bettah than 2 just go aftah ppl for bein' dum. goin' scum takes top priority, we aint in an 18 playah game where u can just lynch weight on d2. teh only reason imma let dat fly fo' toDay is cuz we already lynched a scumbag.

n lol @ u accusing me of makin' no solid cases on anybody when no1 even bothered to cover mah points on bed yesterDay. still thinkin' thats more actual content on a playah than other ppl posted so fall back, son.

:059:
 

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Well, someone gotta hit the noose. See?

We ain't going no lynch, as Kevin bravely pointed out D1.

@ Kevin - Would you take your own lynch over a no lynch? Assume there are only two options.
 

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@Bed, can you bring up my post where I defended Kuz? I think I know which one you are talking about but I'd rather you bring it up to make sure. What do you think that guilty X1 has on Swiss means?

@BSL, Why do you think Bed/Kev should go?
 

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"@ Kevin - Would you take your own lynch over a no lynch? Assume there are only two options."

A loaded question, and one that isn't really fair for me to answer. If the answer was would you take the chance of lynching a townie over a no lynch the answer is yes.

However since knowing I am town and willingly agreeing to my lynch would be a 100 percent chance of us losing an unnecessary townie I would of course answer no.

Please don't try and contribute by using questions that get us no where.

BSL, can you point out why you are still completely convinced that Swiss is not the play?

Bed, can you not be useless and vote Swiss instead of scum mcscummerson trying to start a wagon that is going to get absolutely no support less then 24 hours from deadline.
 

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sorry bro but idk wut u mean thur. liek, wut does teh 1 thing have 2 do with teh other?

n kevin u simply dont convince me. some1 of ur xperience should kno bettah than 2 just go aftah ppl for bein' dum. goin' scum takes top priority, we aint in an 18 playah game where u can just lynch weight on d2. teh only reason imma let dat fly fo' toDay is cuz we already lynched a scumbag.

n lol @ u accusing me of makin' no solid cases on anybody when no1 even bothered to cover mah points on bed yesterDay. still thinkin' thats more actual content on a playah than other ppl posted so fall back, son.

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n someone whos bn in mad games wit me shud kno that i ***n cnt stand dumbs that aint doin nothin to advance teh game we lynched a ***n scumbag yesteday if i had to go with lynching a heads up between 2 kidz im aint sur of or a dumber kid that might be ***n bad scum i'm leanin towards latter erry dam time

Back to actually typing, I am SURE however that we've got some scummy prints on Swiss, and if we can't get those then we should damn well through Bed through the ringer.

Two best options, really no way to dispute that, no matter what fallacy you try and hide behind.
 

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BSL, DH - you pushing for a Kev lynch, or swapping to Bed?
I dunno.

The only reason I would swap to bed is to avoid a nl, and there a little less than 24 hours to decide, which I find more than enough.

However, at the time of the deadline, i'll be at school, so I wouldn't be able to switch votes roughly 7 hours before the deadline.

As for now, i'm keeping my vote on kevin.

Also, what do you both think of Gova?
Not exactly on my town list. He seems so convinced that X1's claim is legit, and, if I recall correctly, his reasons are:

1. He never admitted to lying
2. Why would a town X1 do that?

(this isn't strawmanning. I'm sure these are 95% word for word)

Both of these are bad reasons to back up anyone.

If X1 flips scum, though, i'm 100% convinced gova is his scumbuddy.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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7. Swiss- (3): Nabe, KevinM, Sworddancer

4. KevinM- (2): Swiss, Dark Horse

13. Sir Bedevere- (2): GhEEb, BSL

6. Gova- (1): Sir Bedevere

1. X1-12- (0)

2. DarkHorse- (0)

3. GhEEb- (0)

8. SwordDancer- (0)

9. Nabe- (0):

12. BSL- (0)

Strikes:

X1-12: 2

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch. Deadline is Dec. 22nd at 2:00 EST.
 

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@Gova

BSL, it was a lead in to the quote I think is scummy and paraphrased that qoute reads to me as "but why not me" which makes it look like you're concerned with being cleared. Why do you think Kuz is scum?
That, and it seems to me that you've been tunneling Kuz mad hard yo. And if you think Kuz is scum and you see a connection between him and Swiss why aren't you voting for Swiss? If Swiss flips scum it would further solidify your suspicions of Kuz being scum and reduces the doubts of X1 being a cop.
Imo Kuz was only buddying up to you in what he thought was RVS. In all likely hood he's probably doing it just because you've played together before and are a strong player.
All little posts where you lightly defend Kuz and even answer questions for him. It's much more scummy than someone blatantly defending a flipped scum (as I was) or bussing them (as Kevin was), IMO, since you're attempting to leave as few traces back to yourself as possible.

We don't need to do this, though, since it's more likely you're scum if it was just you and kuz as scum, and I somehow misread this game as only having 11 players (so there's more likely a 3-man scumteam), and people seem to be hung up on either Kevin or Swiss being scum, anyways. :/

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If you feel like I need more stances or w/e, pressure me into them. >.> A large part of why I haven't been doing much this game is it was lylo in another game and I needed to spare more attention to it (and I was the one making gigantic page-stretching walls), but I can focus on just this game now. And with the Christmas Break upon me and nothing to do, I WILL be more active, promise. /johns

If no one is backing down on this Kevin/Swiss/(me) thing, than I have to say that Kevin is the better play. Despite accusing me of lack of stances and scumhunting, I don't feel like he's made that many stances or scumhunts of his own, and I think his bussing connections with kuz are more scummy than kuz chainsawing Swiss; it's even possible kuz's scumbuddy told kuz to chainsaw him.

Vote: Kevin

who else is willing to go kevin?
 
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