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[#HBC | Nabe]

Luckily, that was the last post of the page. Next one will have a collapsing box.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

WHat's more, Kevin contradicts himself:

Also lol at DH's post I don't think at any point I was anti-kuz lynch

DO NOT LYNCH KUZ

....yeah. Give me a better reason as to why I should take my vote off you.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Lol.

That's not Kev being anti-Kuz, that's Kev saying that Swiss was the only viable D1 lynch.

 

[Swiss]

Skimmed Nabe's massive post.

Kevin why did Kuz' feel your wagon was "pointless?" #481.

 

[KevinM]

I'm assuming because there was no way a wagon was going to roll on me with 24 hours left on the day and if he placed a vote there he only looks like he's trying to stall a lynch.

Then again I'm not really in the mood to play why would he do those games.



Also since Nabe's post is full of bias I would like to point out that what you posted about me seems like a natural progression from having a sure guilty to playing out and swinging a lynch on the easier scummier play.

Pointing out that DH is trying to skew what I said considering Kuz was on my list of people to lynch from pretty much the onset of D1 and is taking me out of context by saying I didn't want Kuz to be lynched. Just because I mentioned that at ONE point during the day when I thought the sure play was Swiss because of a non CC'd cop saying he has a guilty doesn't mean I didn't think Kuz was at all scummy especially considering I was one of the few who called him out on the fact his fake cc was completely illogical and scummy play.

So why are you trying to misconstrue that DH, hoping you will get a nice old wagon started on a lie?

Swiss, I don't care if you think my yesterday's play was "garbage" toDay isn't yesterday, and even if my play was considered garbage I still had a now confirmed member of scum on my list from the beginning of the day, where as you kept trying to get X1 lynched and lying saying that everything he said was a joke and he was going along with plan he CLEARLY wasn't going along with.

Swiss/Nabe/DH can go, deal with Bed if that hasn't won us the game.

Gheb would really like to see you take a firm stance on something instead of continuing to post on the unforeseen plan that X1 was attempting.

That's right guys I don't know what X1 was up to yesterday he must be scum.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Wow, you sure did address everything I've said.

 

[BSL]

=Swiss, I don't care if you think my yesterday's play was "garbage" toDay isn't yesterday

wait, early yesterDay, you said that i should be looked at toDay because of my bad play. how is this different from that?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Kevin, you were defending yourself with a contradiction. You were practically not defending yourself at all.

Now that nabe pointed out it was not a directly anti-kus lynch, I would take my vote off you, but he's brought up points that you haven't addressed yet. My vote stays.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

7. Swiss- (4): X1-12, Nabe, GhEEb, KevinM

4. KevinM- (2): Swiss, Dark Horse

1. X1-12- (0)

2. DarkHorse- (0)

3. GhEEb-(0)

6. Gova- (0)

8. SwordDancer- (0)

9. Nabe- (0)

12. BSL- (0)

13. Sir Bedevere- (0)

Strikes:

X1-12: 2

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch. Deadline is Dec. 22nd at 2:00 EST.

 

[BSL]

Srsly, this guy needs a cracker.

 

[KevinM]

wait, early yesterDay, you said that i should be looked at toDay because of my bad play. how is this different from that?

Because I thought your play was legitimately scummy, they are more focusing on how I didn't bring a lot of content to the game.

 

[BSL]

Do you mind giving me a recap why you thought I was scummy?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Readin' up n postin' soon

 

[X1-12]

Never can tell if Swiss is town or not because he plays such a damn scummy game even when he's town :/ I think we should just roll with the fact Swiss is acting scummy, the fact he could justify it as town isn't enough since there's much more likely scummy reasons for doing it

@Mod: can you include the amount of votes need to lynch in each votecount?

 

[Swiss]

Did you not N1 me :/

Fail. How about we lynch who I say until we mislynch, then we lynch me (serious offer). You'll never get my lynch to happen toDay anyway - I'm far too devious.

What do you think of Kevin? And Bed. Where did Bed go?

Kevin why were you willing to lynch/pressure BSL because you

Because I don't like the way you've played D1

yet you feel as if your terrible play D1 should be entirely disregarded.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

@Swiss bed went to the scum QT.

 

[Swiss]

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Aight, so after readin' stuff i gotta say im not convinced by nabes case on kev @ all. like nice effort but idk about teh content - lookin' kinda generic tbh. i can def c dem pro-town intentions behind dat post regardless. nabe, u should srsly stop pushin' teh "either x1 or swiss"-scenario. do u not c teh point in x1 lyin' yesterDay? do u not c teh connections n info we got from it? liek, teh chainsawdefense is liek teh strongest lead we have up 2 nao n we have already lynched a scumbag. idk why u hold it against x1 - he's likely town. let him do his thang, son.

kev, liek i said yesterDay im thinkin' bed is scum n can die. dh / bsl are somwhere between scum n dum in mah book. feelin' bettah about nabe nao so im officially allowin' him 2 proxy his vote on mine n let us pros handle teh situation. j/k but srsly im k with nabe around.
n i dont trust u still. u still have a whole buncha lynches u keep floatin around n with yesterDay's play dat's lookin' kinda convenient thur. gonna keep mah eyes on u,ya dig?

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Sir Bedevere recieves another prod. One more, and he'll be replaced out.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gheb, why do you think X1 I town? (inb4 he mentioned why)

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Aight, so after readin' stuff i gotta say im not convinced by nabes case on kev @ all. like nice effort but idk about teh content - lookin' kinda generic tbh. i can def c dem pro-town intentions behind dat post regardless. nabe, u should srsly stop pushin' teh "either x1 or swiss"-scenario. do u not c teh point in x1 lyin' yesterDay? do u not c teh connections n info we got from it? liek, teh chainsawdefense is liek teh strongest lead we have up 2 nao n we have already lynched a scumbag. idk why u hold it against x1 - he's likely town. let him do his thang, son.

Kind of lost me here, since I already believe X1 to be town, or at least the townier of the two.

As for Swiss/X1: cool story.

X1: if the guilty on Swiss yesterDay was a lie, a direct statement of that would be a good idea. Something like "it was a lie".

Until I hear that, I'm still going to take the claim as read. Not that it changes the Kev case at all, or the Swiss case (when I make it) which will focus on swing to Swiss/Kev/Kuz like the Kev one did. But there's no sense in letting it go on half-stocked the way it is.

 

[KevinM]

Wow, you sure did address everything I've said.

What would be the point of me doing a PbPA when it would just be a basic spin of why exactly I was saying things. If you're trying to be biased and construe those quotes as scummy, I don't feel like trying to go through the concrete wall.

Trust me i've played with gut instinct players and swing players before, reasoning is pointless you just let them make their case point out the minor inconsistencies and move on hoping they get out of that stage.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Posting to avoid prod. My exams end tomorrow, Ill post some actual content then.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Gova does not recieve a prod because he informed me that he'd be absent yesterday, the 13th. I kind of didn't think much of it, but if he doesn't post at around this time tomorrow he'll be prodded.

 

[Sir Bedevere]

Really sorry guys, been getting distracted by a lot of things. Christmas break is coming up so I'll have a bit more time to focus on mafia.

also ugh i make bad reads blah blah

Also, yesterDay bed:

1 Started posting well after the day had started
2 Tunneled swiss (sans a couple of tidbits here and there)
3 Didn't understand why people didn't believe x1
4 Didn't think kuz was scum
5 Did a 180º and said he might vote kuz

Why does that mean anything?
Because I thought he was scum.
I understood, I just didn't agree with them.
Fine, but townies can make that mistake too.
I never 180'd. I said I'd vote kuz only if we needed a lynch, not because I thought he was scum or didn't think Swiss was. Lynch>no lynch.

Is there anything else addressed to me/questions people want to ask me? I'll reread and take in this thread later, right now I want to know what the hell happened yesterday. >>

So, apparently X1, Swiss and Gheb were all in on this super secret plan to fake n0 cop, NOT call it off after it went way too far and got Swiss to L-1, and use the reactions to lynch someone else? I call BS. In order for that to have happened, 3 things would have had to been true:

1. X1 had to know Swiss was town.

2. Swiss would have to know X1 was town.

3. A large part of the town had to know what was going on as well.

So unless they're masons (and if you are, cat's PROBABLY out of the bag now), they can't have done this without cheating, being mafia, or an extreme amount of luck. The fact that Gheb appears to be playing along just looks weird to me as well.

I'm not buying this super-awesome plan. X1 needs to come out and say he lied, as Nabe suggested, or I'm putting my vote back on Swiss.

Aside from that, I'm not liking the way DH is posting (seems way different to how he posts as town), X1 is probably town especially with all the called shots (as someone said, he really seems to be aiming for dice), and I'm still getting those general bad vibes from Sword (need to meta him soon).

 

[BSL]

Quickpost, just gonna say that I was not a part of the alleged super-secret-fake-n0-cop plan, if it existed. I'm just as out of the loop as bed is.

Tomorrow's exams are my two hardest, so I couldn't really play mafia today. After tomorrow, I can be back to the half-V/LA that I have been on. And then after Friday, I'll be back into this game as normal.

 

[Swiss]

Bed no rules have been broken wrt me and X1. And we're not in a 3 man closed mason (wtf). Also X1 didn't need to know if I was town or not, he nearly accidentally lynched me and I could well have flipped scum. Likewise me doing what I did didn't have the prerequisite of knowing X1 was town.

I'm not saying there aren't ANY closed masons, in fact I think there is one, but even that isn't X1/Gheb (or me lol).

Bed in light of this 'super secret plan' how do you feel your play compares to other players?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Gheb, why do you think X1 I town? (inb4 he mentioned why)

its caz of teh high risk/high reward tactic he commited himself 2 yesterDay, u kno. liek he totally put himself in teh crossfire 2 find scum n risked bein' a lynch target 2day in teh process. i still dun c how ppl dun realize how helpful his play wuz yesterDay =/

X1: if the guilty on Swiss yesterDay was a lie, a direct statement of that would be a good idea. Something like "it was a lie".

fall back, dawg. hes literally done half teh work fo' teh town win yesterDay. his play is so pro-town i dun even care if he been lyin', k?

bed, i wasn't "in" on teh plan rite off da bat, u kno? i jus got round 2 it latah. ppl were all hoppin' on swiss just cuz of da n0 cop claim n i figured somethin's fishy rite thur. cuz u kno somethin's not quite rite if ppl react teh way they did.

which is wut x1s plan was all about anyway. liek fake some rlly dum stuff n pretend hes fo' real. then u get 2 c quickly who's huntin' scum n who's just messin' around. kuz was def. messin' around so we lynched him n he flipped scum. n dat gave us tons of coonnection 2 work with 2day. not some "super-secret" plan or anything. jus a strategy which helped us a lot n which is why x1 is clear 2 me.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Why does that mean anything?

It implies two things:

1. You're lurking so attention will not try to be raised at you.
2. You're acting in the mafia QT

Because I thought he was scum.

You also said that this day couldn't end without a swiss lynch.

I understood, I just didn't agree with them.

You're right. You didn't agree with people who had pointed out several times that X1 is lying about his claim.

Fine, but townies can make that mistake too.

How could you make that mistake, as it was painfully obvious he was scum?

No, I don't think townies would make that mistake.

I never 180'd. I said I'd vote kuz only if we needed a lynch, not because I thought he was scum or didn't think Swiss was. Lynch>no lynch.

My bad, sorry. My other points are still valid.

Aside from that, I'm not liking the way DH is posting (seems way different to how he posts as town),

lol OMGUS

What's my town play?
What's my scum play?
What's my indy play?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Alright, exams are done.

Even if what X1 was doing was really a gambit, I still find Swiss to be scummy, for reasons I and others already pointed out. As Swiss pointed out himself, Swiss could still of very well been scum, even if X1 didn't really know for sure.

Still need to pull up those quotes on Swiss, and I still need to reread Bed. I'm on campus right now and I don't really feel like doing this atm, since I'll be leaving soon.

 

[Swiss]

Sword, the only point against me is that Kuz defended me when it looked like I'd be lynched. This has scum implications for him and is hence one of the reasons why we lynched him, it doesn't have scum implications for me. Never seen a scum defend a town before? You come out of that **** GLOWING townie. I pulled it in my first, second AND third scum games, twice doing it D1 iirc.

Unless of course you think I'd be dumb enough to not tell my scum buddies about X1's gambit. In which case feel free to push my lynch and watch me lynch Kevin anyway.

 

[X1-12]

Gonna go through some posts from toDay, also gonna Unvote since its early

Okay, here is my reasoning for thinking Swiss, Nabe, or Bed should be the play toDay.

Swiss: Actually, most people already pointed out the fact the reason why Swiss is scummy, that is, the fact that Kuz used the chainsaw defense. I guess I would just add to that the fact that Kuz pretty much attacked everyone that attacked him (me, BSL, DH), minus Swiss. I do believe he had a small little fight with Swiss, but he resolved it pretty quickly. Although Swiss attacked Kuz a good bunch, Kuz didn't really attack him back as much. As should be obvious by now, this is inconsistent with how he treated everyone else who accused him. This is definitely a point of interest, especially considering that you would think that Kuz would of targeted Swiss yesturDay, since Swiss was in a fairly easy position to be pushed then. He didn't, and that, I think, paints a big red mark on Swiss.

Anyways, once again, laterish I'll pull some quotes up to prove this point.

Nabe: I actually don't really find him scummy due to any relation to Kuz, but I find him more so just because of general scumminess. All of Day 1 play was completely void of scum hunting. Instead, all he did was make fluff posts talking about things that all ready happened and, at best, toke a stance on a already very popular issue. I did not see any attempt at genuine scum hunting from him, and that is why I suspect him.

Bed: Eh, it's kind of hard to call out Bed, for the reason that I'll be calling him out on the same things that you could probably call me out on. That is, him trying to derail the Kuz wagon. Now, to my defense, the only reason I didn't want to lynch Kuz yesturDay is because I wanted to lynch Swiss or X1 first. Bed, on the other hand, was always trying to derail suspicion on Kuz in general. Could very well just be a misguided effort, though. I probably need to reread him specifically more.

Also, note that I really doubt that both Bed and Swiss are buddies. Only one of them are probably scum.

---


Oh jeez, BSL, I hate to break it to you, but that's pretty much the lamest tell there is. Use your own head rather than that wiki (which can be pretty bad at times) to figure out if you actually think that makes me more suspicious.



You actually told the mod ahead of time who you think is scum? You're aiming waaaaay too hard for those golden dice, bro.

What would you think if I told you that chainsaw defence only applies if the one being defended flips scum. Would your opinion of Swiss change?

If Swiss is your biggest suspect why did you not vote for him now?

-> will you vote Swiss now?

What do you think about how Kevin has the exact same scumpicks as you?

I also find it fairly odd that Kuz's initial joke was to discredit the investigation that X1 did which was of course a guilty on you swiss.

What do you mean give you details of what went down yesterday? We lynched scum, I don't care about some glorified plan that people were playing along with.

Swiss can go
Nabe can go
Bed can go

not necessarily but preferably in that order.

Kind of lost me here, since I already believe X1 to be town, or at least the townier of the two.

As for Swiss/X1: cool story.

X1: if the guilty on Swiss yesterDay was a lie, a direct statement of that would be a good idea. Something like "it was a lie".

Yah, I hear you brother.

@Swiss:What exactly about Kevs D1 play did you not like, show me a few examples
@Swiss: Do you honestly believe that Kuz is clever enough to intentionally, not just defend, but actually pull the chainsaw on someone. If so do you believe he would actually try that on someone as 'devious' as yourself when this game is full of easy mislynches? (relatively)

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

i still dun c how ppl dun realize how helpful his play wuz yesterDay =/

Please state very clearly why you think his play was helpful. The end result was that scum got lynched, yes, but I don't think it merits the attitude that you've carried through this Day of X1 being the White Knight of D1. I'd like more detail as to how you specifically think he was helpful.

fall back, dawg. hes literally done half teh work fo' teh town win yesterDay. his play is so pro-town i dun even care if he been lyin', k?

What is this? It's like we're not having the same conversation.

There's nothing to fall back from. You're defending X1 against nothing. X1 isn't on my radar, toDay is about Swiss. I cleared that up for you once already, in the very same post that you quoted and replied to. I am not saying "X1 lied, let's lynch that sucka". What I am saying is that a very simple "yeah I lied" would be appreciated, since we're already moving forward with the assumption that it's the case.

 

[X1-12]

Give it up Nabe, you are better off dropping it rather than wasting time

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

7. Swiss- (3): Nabe, GhEEb, KevinM

4. KevinM- (2): Swiss, Dark Horse

1. X1-12- (0)

2. DarkHorse- (0)

3. GhEEb-(0)

6. Gova- (0)

8. SwordDancer- (0)

9. Nabe- (0)

12. BSL- (0)

13. Sir Bedevere- (0)

Strikes:

X1-12: 2

With 10 alive it takes six to lynch. Deadline is Dec. 22nd at 2:00 EST.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

its caz of teh high risk/high reward tactic he commited himself 2 yesterDay, u kno. liek he totally put himself in teh crossfire 2 find scum n risked bein' a lynch target 2day in teh process. i still dun c how ppl dun realize how helpful his play wuz yesterDay =/

LOL. First off, how do you know he isn't scum and is doing that to make people like you think he's town?

Second, tell us where X1's cop has helped us. I'm curious.

fall back, dawg. hes literally done half teh work fo' teh town win yesterDay. his play is so pro-town i dun even care if he been lyin', k?

LOL. Seriously.

How is lying about an N0 guilty, then saying he would fake a guilty on someone toNight protown? I don't see how X1 has helped us at all.He's only created confusion.

which is wut x1s plan was all about anyway. liek fake some rlly dum stuff n pretend hes fo' real. then u get 2 c quickly who's huntin' scum n who's just messin' around.

Gheb, if he was doing that to scum hunt, then hy hasn't he produced reads yet? It's been longer than a day.

 

[Gova]

Sorry for the prod dodge, gonna go see Chronicles of Narnia.

 

[BSL]

Sword, the only point against me is that Kuz defended me when it looked like I'd be lynched.

Your Plan to find out if X1 was lying or not was actually really scummy.

 

[BSL]

DH, what's your address? I have a ups guy here and a box of crackers with your name on it.

 

[Swiss]

@Swiss:What exactly about Kevs D1 play did you not like, show me a few examples

A few? Good. I was about to quote most of his posts.

Gheb I am completely fine with lynching X1 no alternatives if Swiss flipped town.

This is terri-bad. Reasoning for this is already known and apparent. X1 can be lying.

Because I don't like the way you've played D1

This is Kev's reasoning for pressuring BSL if I flip scum. BSL's 'poor' play should be scummy regardless of my flip.

Also just realised this could be Kev scum fake pressuring BSL scum as I'd flip town so he drops the point later. I'm deciding this isn't true. I changed my mind on BSL for some reason.


THIS is the key reason I want him dead.

Here's what I think, there is NO reason NOT to lynch Swiss in this game, he gives us the MOST information. However I feel there should be TONS of discussion before we take what is IMO the only lynch choice of D1.

If we do not lynch him today we risk missing out on information on a bunch of crucial D1 players.

-KevinM

Looks good, right? A grade townie, gotta get that info.

When I pressured him on what information he'd get from my flip (#259) he stumbled and came up blank. He had nothing, zero. He didn't actually know what information my flip would give.

Looking into his #294 he says he doesn't care about lynching indies (wtf)

Also who gives a **** if X1 is a warlock, let him win the game for all I care I'm perfectly fine joint winning with an indie as long as town wins this game. Swiss needs to die toDay.

Later in this post he makes the slip of

Swiss you say you won't have a lot of information lynching you but I think by seeing the stances we've had on all the different possibilities you are QUITE simply the best possible lynch.

Again not saying what information we gain AND misquoting me, I never said my flip gave little information.

Kevin clearly pushed for my lynch on the basis that I HAD to be scum and that my flip would provide TONS of unspecified information and that if I did somehow magically flip town X1 should definitely be lynched the next day "no alternatives". That's BS of the highest degree.

Three pages later without him posting he calls me out for saying he's stalling. Next page he jumps off my wagon 'cuz I'm not as easy to lynch as he thought and jumps on other players.

Important to note that Kevin actually admitted he didn't know X1 was lying yesterDay, so we can take his posts at face value. (Also has prerequisite of X-town or X-Total****HeadScumBussing - the former is true). Kevin has taken the easiest available lynch.


I hate making long, reasoned posts like this X1 but sweet Jesus tell me you can see the scum reeking out of him. In future I'm gonna point out what's scummy at the time and you can just refer back to it. Like I said all of this before.

@Swiss: Do you honestly believe that Kuz is clever enough to intentionally, not just defend, but actually pull the chainsaw on someone. If so do you believe he would actually try that on someone as 'devious' as yourself when this game is full of easy mislynches? (relatively)

Pulling chainsaw isn't hard, or pro, it's more the opposite - I don't know what you mean by that.

Would he defend me? Yes. He did. Clearly.


Now we can lynch him.