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#HBC | Gorf

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Morning comes. And all of a sudden, laying right next to Harry and the Evolution of Dance guy, were two more bodies, both covered in blood and smelling like death.





Jonathan the Zombie (giraffeslasergun), Town Medium, and The Numa Numa Guy (Acrostic), Town Roleblocker, were killed N1.

Is there anybody to trust?

That being said, with 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! The deadline is Dec. 22nd, at 2:00 PM.
 

#HBC | Dancer

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Two lame players gone, with two power roles along with them. huh

What's a medium? Someone who can communicate with dead players I'm assuming?

Still studyng for finals. Did a quick read through during the Night, and found out that Swiss was telling the truth about everyone stating there reasons for finding Kuz scummy (not that it matters anymore, lol).

Bed, Nabe, or Swiss today. X1 and KevinM are secondary suspects at this point. Will explain laterish.
 

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Same as Swords except on Nabe, because he was only advocating a policy lynch so I'm unsure about him. The best way imo to prevent Kuz getting lynched was to push the lynch on Swiss which is why I think Sir Bed. I'm not ruling out Swiss because his life depends on how well he can WIFOM your guilty result.
 

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Also, I'm confused by the NK which I assume is Acrostic. This was his first game so it would be easy for scum to bend his will imo. Unless he crumbed RBer somewhere but I doubt that.
 

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A quick thing about the set-up of this game: 13 man games nearly always have Indies. 3v10 is anti scum, 4v9 is anti-town. Its kinda possible instead of an indy we have multiple mafia factions but unlikely.

[collapse=List of all Indies that I know]Jester
Survivor
Warlock
SK
Arsonist
JOAT (jack of all trades)
Poisoner
Lyncher
siblings
Mad scientist
Abductor/kidnapper
piper
nexus
cultist[/collapse]Remove all those to be mod-confirmed absent, or cannot kill N1:

SK
Arsonist (if allowed to prime N0)
JoaT
Poisoner (if allowed to poison N0)

Q.) Do I think GBoy is imaginative enough to include an Arsonist or Poisoner?
A.) No. Even if he did he would likely have done flavour kills for them

SK/Joat.

Most likely a SK. JOAT would probably not kill N1

tl;dr

We have a SK
 

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Kuz pulled the chainsaw defence on Swiss btw.
ah yo not gunna lie its exactly wut i was thinkin' when I saw da flip. liek hed totally fell fo' yer trap. figured it'll turn out useful 2 let u do yer thang.

watch out swiss we got yo fingahprintz.

vote swiss

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#HBC | Nabe

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Not even necessary, really. More like overkill. Considering we have X1cop claiming mod-confirmed sanity with a guilty on Swiss, we either take Swiss or X1. You two can fight it out all you want, but as far as I'm concerned Swiss lynch is the way to go, of the two. This cop situation makes this the easiest D2 I've seen in a long while.
 

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Two lame players gone, with two power roles along with them. huh
When I read the link X1 posted, I immediately thought of this post.

This fits almost perfectly with the "Well, that sucks" tell.
 

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hurt me a little bit that you stole my thunder
When I read the link X1 posted, I immediately thought of this post.

This fits almost perfectly with the "Well, that sucks" tell.

Yah I'm calling Swiss/Sword as remaining scum. Mod can confirm after the game that I called this as soon as D1 ended
 

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So a scum defended me? Your point? What happens when I get lynched? Anyone that defended me looks better.

I could point out why according to you I bussed Kuz on page 2 (wtf) and then harder, later, but I see no need. I don't think I'll be lynched.

Kevin couldn't have wagoned me any harder if he'd tried.

And he's scum - who was it that said "DO NOT LYNCH KUZ, lynch Swiss or X1?".

Vote Kevin
 

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Definitely don't like this post because if you've been reading theres no possible way you would have to reread his braindead posts.
Your using appeal to ridicule. (@bsl look it up)

also, swiss has a point. You were anti-lynch kuz, and he flipped scum.

Vote Kevin

Also, yesterDay bed:

Started posting well after the day had started
Tunneled swiss (sans a couple of tidbits here and there)
Didn't understand why people didn't believe x1
Didn't think kuz was scum
Did a 180º and said he might vote kuz

hmmmmmmmmmm.....

FoS: Bed
 

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Nabe can you bounce around anymore, starting to think we might have found our scum here.
First of all, my original response to your crap.
My vote has been on Swiss since the moment X1 claimed his result. As for me being fine with Kuz's lynch like you brought up in your previous post -- yes, I am fine with that, but as I keep saying, Swiss/X1 is the move. I've also been on Kuz since shortly after X1's claim, for buddying, and I'll cite the post number when I'm back.

Out to a funeral and I'll respond to all else later, but I'm not going to let you BS like that.
Nabe hasn't been helpful and he's tossing around a few lynches as if he's been around them from the beginning.
Post 45, post 54. i.e. the first page of gameplay.
NO ONE VOTE

seriously stop voting we don't need the day to end this quickly.

We have a cop N0 claiming guilty and a CC and you guys are throwing votes around.

Everyone stop voting.
You should know. You were there. :oneeye:

Anyways you just said you were fine with Kuz's lynch why are you now fine for a Swiss lynch?
Because... I always have been. I wouldn't say I'm "now fine", so much as "it's a continuation of the stances I've had all thread".
 

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Okay, here is my reasoning for thinking Swiss, Nabe, or Bed should be the play toDay.

Swiss: Actually, most people already pointed out the fact the reason why Swiss is scummy, that is, the fact that Kuz used the chainsaw defense. I guess I would just add to that the fact that Kuz pretty much attacked everyone that attacked him (me, BSL, DH), minus Swiss. I do believe he had a small little fight with Swiss, but he resolved it pretty quickly. Although Swiss attacked Kuz a good bunch, Kuz didn't really attack him back as much. As should be obvious by now, this is inconsistent with how he treated everyone else who accused him. This is definitely a point of interest, especially considering that you would think that Kuz would of targeted Swiss yesturDay, since Swiss was in a fairly easy position to be pushed then. He didn't, and that, I think, paints a big red mark on Swiss.

Anyways, once again, laterish I'll pull some quotes up to prove this point.

Nabe: I actually don't really find him scummy due to any relation to Kuz, but I find him more so just because of general scumminess. All of Day 1 play was completely void of scum hunting. Instead, all he did was make fluff posts talking about things that all ready happened and, at best, toke a stance on a already very popular issue. I did not see any attempt at genuine scum hunting from him, and that is why I suspect him.

Bed: Eh, it's kind of hard to call out Bed, for the reason that I'll be calling him out on the same things that you could probably call me out on. That is, him trying to derail the Kuz wagon. Now, to my defense, the only reason I didn't want to lynch Kuz yesturDay is because I wanted to lynch Swiss or X1 first. Bed, on the other hand, was always trying to derail suspicion on Kuz in general. Could very well just be a misguided effort, though. I probably need to reread him specifically more.

Also, note that I really doubt that both Bed and Swiss are buddies. Only one of them are probably scum.

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When I read the link X1 posted, I immediately thought of this post.

This fits almost perfectly with the "Well, that sucks" tell.
Oh jeez, BSL, I hate to break it to you, but that's pretty much the lamest tell there is. Use your own head rather than that wiki (which can be pretty bad at times) to figure out if you actually think that makes me more suspicious.

Yah I'm calling Swiss/Sword as remaining scum. Mod can confirm after the game that I called this as soon as D1 ended
You actually told the mod ahead of time who you think is scum? You're aiming waaaaay too hard for those golden dice, bro.
 

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Oh jeez, BSL, I hate to break it to you, but that's pretty much the lamest tell there is. Use your own head rather than that wiki (which can be pretty bad at times) to figure out if you actually think that makes me more suspicious.
understandable. i mean, i didnt even FoS you for it, which is saying something.
 

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Well, you mentioned it, so I was just assuming you thought I was suspicious because of it. >.>

Also, lack of action (like you not fos me) is kind of hard to see.
 

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k. my bad then. i was only mentioning it to see what others thought. nothing came of it, so its whatevs.
 

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Right so like I said ignoring DH's awful idea.

Nabe was completely useless D1 and the reason I believe he is scum is because of how he played a completely fluffy opinion free D1 something any scum watching his scummates playing a **** game would do.

Also lol at DH's post I don't think at any point I was anti-kuz lynch, in fact I was on his wagon and wasn't a contriteful hammer either.
 

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Not even necessary, really. More like overkill. Considering we have X1cop claiming mod-confirmed sanity with a guilty on Swiss, we either take Swiss or X1. You two can fight it out all you want, but as far as I'm concerned Swiss lynch is the way to go, of the two. This cop situation makes this the easiest D2 I've seen in a long while.
LMFAO r u serious dude like wtf.

consider switchin' 2 nabe after posts liek that.

And he's scum - who was it that said "DO NOT LYNCH KUZ, lynch Swiss or X1?".
lol ur dum. u still dont c wut yesterday's play was all about, aight?

:059:
 

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lol ur dum. u still dont c wut yesterday's play was all about, aight?

:059:
Yeah. I know exactly what yesterDay was about. At no point did I think Kevin was in on it. Unless he's in a mason (which could explain things).

This is the problem and what I was trying to tell X1. How do we know who was just 'playing along' and who wasn't?

I saw X1/you/me and NO-ONE else. I saw nothing from Kevin other then poor play.
 

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Okay, here is my reasoning for thinking Swiss, Nabe, or Bed should be the play toDay.

Swiss: Actually, most people already pointed out the fact the reason why Swiss is scummy, that is, the fact that Kuz used the chainsaw defense. I guess I would just add to that the fact that Kuz pretty much attacked everyone that attacked him (me, BSL, DH), minus Swiss. I do believe he had a small little fight with Swiss, but he resolved it pretty quickly. Although Swiss attacked Kuz a good bunch, Kuz didn't really attack him back as much. As should be obvious by now, this is inconsistent with how he treated everyone else who accused him. This is definitely a point of interest, especially considering that you would think that Kuz would of targeted Swiss yesturDay, since Swiss was in a fairly easy position to be pushed then. He didn't, and that, I think, paints a big red mark on Swiss.
Yes he buddied me, I called him out on it.

Yes he pulled mad defence on me, I called him out on it.

I don't really see how his scum flip implicates me. I can see how what he did implicates him - scum love defending townies, but it doesn't shine much of a light on me (other than obv town). Many people were pushing me, by defending me Kuz gains myself as an ally or cred when I flip town.

Also someone pointed out Kuz knew I'd flip town OMG HAI SWISS UR TOWN FOR ONCE. I could be indie - but I'm not.
 

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Yes he buddied me, I called him out on it.

Yes he pulled mad defence on me, I called him out on it.

I don't really see how his scum flip implicates me. I can see how what he did implicates him - scum love defending townies, but it doesn't shine much of a light on me (other than obv town). Many people were pushing me, by defending me Kuz gains myself as an ally or cred when I flip town.

Also someone pointed out Kuz knew I'd flip town OMG HAI SWISS UR TOWN FOR ONCE. I could be indie - but I'm not.
You actually said this

Kuz is scum as he supposed I'd flip indie as he knows who scum are. Wait, was he joking there? Quote every post which was 'jokey' Kuz. I want to see reasoning for each 'joke'. Why were there two scum on my wagon? Does this mean they are or aren't bussing? Looks like indirect protecting/attacking depending on your stance - neither is good.
Well you kinda called him out, I didn't see you push him, if you so confidently know he's scum why not push his lynch? you were set on my lynch on the false assumption that I was trying to trade my life for yours and made it very clear it was my lynch you would be pushing for at the end of the Day (yet your vote was on Kevin, and you completely ignored me at the Day end).

The fact you 'called him out on it' really weakly is not convincing either, so what you did call him out on it? He still said it and its still reflects badly on you, you can't undo his scummy posts by attacking him weakly. Do you genuinely think Kuz is smart enough to falsely implicate a townie? if he was then do you think he'd pick you as a target when the game is kinda full of mislynch bait/fodder.

@Swiss: ^answer all above questions
 

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X1 I said I'd be pushing your lynch but then never did. What does this tell you? It should tell you I know what you're doing. What more do you want me to do ffs? You can't call me out on lying to you when you've been lying to me.

I didn't want you lynched (but it was useful to see if you cracked or not).


Also I did want Kuz lynched, you want me to scramble for the pro town points and quote it? #126 (which you quoted) was my FIRST post with content (even you can agree my earlier posts were plying up to your claim). What's your point? I then called him out on knowing the N0 cop rules (wtf) and something else, which I can find if you're determined to continue this.

What did I do about it? I wagoned him and said we should lynch him - if he were my buddy why did I not push your lynch when I had ample reasoning to do so? I could have EASILY pushed your lynch and got myself cleared, but I didn't. Why? Because I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

There are two roles you can have in this game - I don't know which, but surely cop you investigated me last night anyway. Either way you'll now know this.

And Kuz was on my town list in DnD, he was scum. So I don't think he's bad as scum, no. No scum got lynched in the entire game.

As for why Kuz would choose me...Who would you want on your side in a game full of quiet people? One of few people who ALWAYS tells people what to and clears people D1? Yes please. Exactly what I did to Cello in Oddworld. Are you even trying to think this through?
 

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This is the problem and what I was trying to tell X1. How do we know who was just 'playing along' and who wasn't?
thinkin' its fairly obv who wasnt playin' along, eh. u can actually c it in my previous post...

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I also find it fairly odd that Kuz's initial joke was to discredit the investigation that X1 did which was of course a guilty on you swiss.

What do you mean give you details of what went down yesterday? We lynched scum, I don't care about some glorified plan that people were playing along with.

Swiss can go
Nabe can go
Bed can go

not necessarily but preferably in that order.
 

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Kev - D1, or "The OMGUS Case"

Disclaimer: Going into this ISO with a gut on Switz/Kev scumteam, so this case will be full of swingy bias and rage.


NO ONE VOTE

seriously stop voting we don't need the day to end this quickly.

We have a cop N0 claiming guilty and a CC and you guys are throwing votes around.

Everyone stop voting.
Fair point. No content.

S/K swing: Could be protecting Swiss from a cop claim. Also worth noting that the "CC" was Kuz, who later claimed to be joking.

I don't care if Swiss is inevitably lynched today I still want to slow this roll. We have plenty of time in the day, there is no reason to hustle a lynch when we have a N0 investigation claiming he has a guilty being COUNTER claimed by a different N0 investigation claiming HE has a guilty.

I don't need size 72 I would hope to get that point across.

We can't rush something like this.
Restatement and clarification of the previous post. No content.

The size 72 is in reference to X1, who (being a cop claim) would naturally be pushing his own guilty report. However, X1 only used larger text to point out that we weren't in RVS; he wasn't spamming "VOTE SWISS" or something like that.

S/K swing: Negativity towards X1, a potshot for no reason.

So after he explicitely stated on three separate occasions he wasn't joking, you didn't think it would be a good idea to back off the jokes?

the RVS isn't a neccesary time in mafia why would you intentionally try and draw it out.

also FOS BSL , i find it hard the only useful thing you have said this game has to do with role pm templates an hope you would scum hunt a little harder
A response to Kuz's 100 and an FOS at BSL. No content.

Fair point in the first bit, but also a point that you were for some reason negative about when X1 was voicing it.

In the FOS against BSL, I've underlined a part I thought was cute: you telling BSL that he's useless and isn't scumhunting, when it's early in the game and you yourself were making your third post of non-scumhunting.

Swing: "you didn't think it would be a good idea to back off the jokes" could be Kev directing Kuz.


Also why are you still so positive he's joking? Why do you keep trying to hammer that point in
Very good point. I would call this your first content of the game. Same swing as previous post.


Gova are you buddying with Swiss or just saying the role template is the same?
And you were doing so well. What is with this question? You ragged on BSL for talking about role PMs... so that you could do the same? No content. Null swing, it's a dumb post from either alignment.


I believe you quoted that incorrectly. Should make sure from now on to have quotes be tied to the correct person.

I also find it rather odd the line of

"When Swiss flips indepedent"

rather sure of that Kuz?
A line to Acrostic and another for Kuz. A good point expressed towards Kuz.
Swing: again, reads a bit like leading Kuz. Hasn't escalated to bussing yet.

I really want some more information on this line, you made it sound like you and X1 had planned this out. He's making it very clear you didn't so were you just hoping he didn't log on again until your lynch? Later on he clearly says you're lying and that he is ONCE again being serious so I have to ask what exactly your plan with this was?

Really interesting line here, don't like how you're giving him an out, I definitely would foresee this as you trying to cover a scum buddy if you were to flip scum. This line is basically a get out of jail free card and I don't really like the connection it puts between the two of you.

Still really don't like the game you're playing IGMEOY for newer players that means "I got my eye on you"

Hey I don't know if you've realized but we're out of the RVS and if you'd like to try and add things of substance that would be helpful, you're one of the better players here and you've only given a synapsis of the game.

Are you able to communicate with Swiss outside of the thread?
Addresses Swiss, BSL, Gheb, X1. Addresses Swiss' motive for saying it was all a lie, and highlights Swiss/Kuz. Flashes an acronym at BSL. Calls Gheb out for lack of substance, again a little ironic. Good question posed to X1.

S/K swing: "I don't really like the connection it puts between the two of you." Informs Swiss that he's being obvious, tells him to stop. Sets up a Kuz bus later in the Day when they've decided he's dug a big enough hole.


Swiss, even if you're telling the truth statistically it makes no sense to lynch the cop because if he's telling the truth and we then know you are scum we wasted a possible night investigation.
Policy point. ;) No content. Worth pointing out that at this point, X1 hadn't claimed even cop, so the reasoning was all valid.


Is anyone else confused by Kuz asking if someones quick topic is working ok?

Gheb I am completely fine with lynching X1 no alternatives if Swiss flipped town.

I also think if Swiss flips scum Kuz is someone I would want to look at as well as BSL.
Point on Kuz, policy stance on Swiss/X1, lays out Swiss/Kuz/BSL.
S/K swing: sellin' the buddies down the river ho ho


Because I don't like the way you've played D1
Response to BSL's 226: "Why look at me if Swiss is scum?" which was in response to Kev's previous post. Not what I would call a satisfactory answer. No swing.


Ok so I wouldn't want to role hunt at this point in the game, its not exactly town to start trying to unearth power roles.

Also who gives a **** if X1 is a warlock, let him win the game for all I care I'm perfectly fine joint winning with an indie as long as town wins this game. Swiss needs to die toDay.

Swiss you say you won't have a lot of information lynching you but I think by seeing the stances we've had on all the different possibilities you are QUITE simply the best possible lynch.

Vote Swiss

Not moving this and firmly thing this is the best play and only possible play town should be considering at this point.

DO NOT LYNCH KUZ just because of how oddly he's played without gaining any information of this flip.

Think about it guys

we go into D2 if they are both still alive we go RIGHT back into he said she said.

Stop worrying about the indy and just win this game if you're town.
Okay, stance is set in stone. Kev wants Swiss gone, Kuz is not the play. Firmly a policy lynch. Questions the validity of checking for indies.


I have a lot to post about on this last page but I won't be able to do it until tomorrow or much later tonight.
@Swiss please don't try and say I'm stalling when I'm merely trying to figure out exactly how to go with all the new information we got today.

God we need a day vig in every game I swear.
Johns, no content.


Nabe can you bounce around anymore, starting to think we might have found our scum here.

I don't think people are waiting on me to post I think activity has just lulled.

Anyways you just said you were fine with Kuz's lynch why are you now fine for a Swiss lynch?

With the fact that X1 seems to be lying about his role multiple times and the fact that after three rereads I saw him say he would be investigating people tonight on multiple occasions I feel Swiss is no longer the proper play today.

I also don't necessarily feel we should lynch X1 today either.

Fine with Kuz or Nabe going today

seems like dead weight.

Would rather go Nabe, but if that can't get rolling we absolutely need to lynch someone by deadline or fail town is already handing this game away.
Oops, stance wasn't set in stone after all. Point to me that I've addressed. Drops Swiss/X1 entirely, moves to me and Kuz.

S/K swing: Reconsiders his bus on Swiss, drops X1 as well. This is where Kev starts playing sideways, approaching me/Kuz rather than the cop claim / guilty report he'd been half-heartedly chasing previously. Kuz because he's a better loss for scumteam than Swiss, and me because I'm an easy target. Me over Kuz since I'm not his partner.


LOL You guys would rather lynch me for going afk for 3 days then people that are genuinly scummy?

I don't care if you guys think I'm playing my generic scum game, I'm not so you guys can either push the wrong wagon or we can start playing this game.

WE CANNOT NO LYNCH.

It's the day before deadline.

Nabe/Kuz/X-1 in that order of importance.

Nabe hasn't been helpful and he's tossing around a few lynches as if he's been around them from the beginning.

Kuz is just being genuinely bad as a player and those are people I really don't feel like having around for end game.

X-1 has flopped on his role multiple times in this game.

You guys would vote for me because after going throw my exams I finally had time to post but because I posted now I was clearly stalling. Nice DIYDDIYD guys.
Flashes v/la, says "I'm not scum", argues against No Lynch which no one addressed. Tosses X1 in as well.


Swiss I have played three games in my past 10 I believe (granted this is a number pulled from my head) where town has severely crippled themselves by no lynching.

Bed I don't understand where you can think Swiss is the play in light off all the X1 stuff that has come to light, have you just not been reading?

Nabe/Kuz/Bed/X-1

Gheb don't see where I'm being useless considering I stopped the D1 snowball and said before all the X1 controversy why I wanted Swiss lynched before X1 was found to be a chronic liar.
Offers his explanation for the No Lynch bit. Firmly opposes Swiss lynch. Clarifies his stance on X1 to Gheb. Swing: lol.


Unvote, Vote Kuz

He is officially at L-1.

Two things Acro I've been ignoring a majority of YOUR questions because they are either garbage (from memory i remember something about puppies and kitties) or just misleading because you don't know a whole lot about the game.
Votes for Kuz, trashes Acro.

Swing: Ship's sinking, better throw down that bus vote. Not quite as bad as Swiss' Hammer+1 on Kuz, at least.


@MOD are you allowed to specify what the strikes are for, am I missing something?
Asks the mod to clarify X1's posting restriction, lol. No content, no swing.


Swiss and Nabe me thinks for our final scumsuckers.

Anyways

Vote Swiss
Oops, your stance flipped overNight. Firmly back on Swiss now. Apparently X1 being a "chronic liar" doesn't matter to you in D2?


Definitely don't like this post because if you've been reading theres no possible way you would have to reread his braindead posts.
Trashing Acro post-mortem, while trashing DH. Talented. No content.


Right so like I said ignoring DH's awful idea.

Nabe was completely useless D1 and the reason I believe he is scum is because of how he played a completely fluffy opinion free D1 something any scum watching his scummates playing a **** game would do.

Also lol at DH's post I don't think at any point I was anti-kuz lynch, in fact I was on his wagon and wasn't a contriteful hammer either.
"Ignoring" DH, ignores my post as well. Then, responds to DH's post despite ignoring it. Points out that he was never anti-Kuz (true) and points out that he wasn't the hammer (technically true).


Still to follow: Swiss swing, and summary.
 
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