You get no Sympathy in a "Fire Emblem Discussion"

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I still think tag teaming is kinda cheap though...

Also, I like the name Dreadfighter a lot.

It's the most awesome class in the game, it was the third promotion in the Mercenary line in Gaiden, so you can actually consider it a Vanguard with Magic.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

I still think tag teaming is kinda cheap though...

Also, I like the name Dreadfighter a lot.

I used to think that too. But the game is designed around it so its more challenging to compensate.

Plus the tag team mechanic adds a lot more strategy to the gameplay. Placement of units in relation to other units is extremely important, more so than before. When I first saw the trailer I was extremely skeptical but now I look forward to it possibly being used in later games.

One more thing. Because a pair up system was added (which is sorta different that standing next to somebody) they took out the ability to rescue. The games more punishing with unit placement because once you move somebody, you can't get them out except with a warp or dance.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Yeah but say, if you tag a General to a Wyvern Rider, don't you get the extra movement of the Wyvern Rider instead of the slow ass clumpsy General? I dunno man. It's a cool concept, but I don't quite like it that much yet. Hopefully actually playing the game will change this.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Yeah but say, if you tag a General to a Wyvern Rider, don't you get the extra movement of the Wyvern Rider instead of the slow *** clumpsy General? I dunno man. It's a cool concept, but I don't quite like it that much yet. Hopefully actually playing the game will change this.

Gangrel is not a vital unit, what will help your ass in this game are the children, they are so overpowered, when you do the marriages though consider the classes and pre plan the skill set you want to have, and if you ever plan to get Ike's DLC (it will award you with a skill called Limit Breaker) which will increase the caps by 10 points, so you will have 4 skill slots only because Limit Breaker is basically the most overpowered Skill ever, it can actually make your units stronger than the final boss xD.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Aren't there also supposed to be enemies with 99s in all stats?

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Aren't there also supposed to be enemies with 99s in all stats?

It's called the Training DLC or something like that.

 

[Diddy Kong]

How do you survive such a thing?

 

[FlareHabanero]

How do you survive such a thing?

By not sucking.

 

[Diddy Kong]

OKAYYYY.

Clear and simple.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

By not sucking.

Till now didn't find a game that's as hard as Fire Emblem 5. even the units stats in that game are gimped where all the character fully promoted stat caps are on 20....

 

[Diddy Kong]

So that's decrease upon promotion in FE5..?

Must be divine punishment for the incest.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

So that's decrease upon promotion in FE5..?

Must be divine punishment for the incest.

Hahaha xD, it was definitely a punishment . but no it's the fact that non-promoted units caps were 15 stat point, and the promoted units get 5 more above them, it was messed to be honest.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Well, less place to get RNG screwed I guess? But still...

Also, Lachesis totally cuckholded Finn. Feel kinda bad for him.

 

[ChronoBound]

Also, Lachesis totally cuckholded Finn. Feel kinda bad for him.

I think that may be why Fin is cold and a bit of a jerk around women in FE4 Gen 2 and FE5.

Seriously, if Fin is Nanna's father, at least she got to grow up and fight alongside one of her parents which is a lot more than can be said for most of the FE4 Gen 2 cast.

 

[Diddy Kong]

That's surely something unique there yeah. Most of the FE4 cast didn't get that chance. Finn turned cold though? Maybe that had more to do with Cuan and Ethlin dying? And him being so seriously determined to see Leaf fullfill his father's dreams? Still, he was searching for Lachesis all over the continent apperantly. So I guess he did love her in the end? That Beowulf must've had some mad medievel swag on him though.

Also, why is Levin called Lewyn now? That's one of the worse new names yet. I thought the Levin Sword would've made it clear it's supposed to be Levin.

Speaking of FE4 and parents fighting with their children... I always found it rather odd that in the DLC episodes featuring Sigurd and Celice, the two fight togheter with each other quite casually... It's like

Sigurd: 'C'mon son, let me show you how it's done!'
Celice: 'Yeah pops, let's kick these guys asses!' '

AND THEY ACT LIKE SIGURD NEVER DIED AND ****!

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I got RNG screwed today xD, I was playing against a fairly weak Streetpass team, to the point that I can take them all on with on character but his best character was an assassin who did Lethality on Chrom xD and I lost for that damn reason.

 

[---]

Thought I'd post this here for all to see.

It's not Iwata Asks, but there's quite a few little tidbits of information that is more fan based such as more DLC, favorite characters, how to create chapter maps, whether Awakening really is the 13th game or the 14th, etc.

Personally I found it hilarious that the character models were poor because they didn't realize the 3DS's graphical potential until late in development and that all the developers said that their favorite character is Tharja ().

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

^

They better have thanked God heavily for coming up with SMT X FE.

One more chance to redeem yourselves developers.

ONE.

MORE

CHANCE.

 

[FalKoopa]

all the developers said that their favorite character is Tharja ().

They are Japanese. Makes sense.
Just too much sense.

 

[Frostwraith]

They are Japanese. Makes sense.
Just too much sense.

Hear hear!

They better have thanked God heavily for coming up with SMT X FE.

One more chance to redeem yourselves developers.

ONE.

MORE

CHANCE.

Maybe at E3 we will know more details about the game, who knows?

 

[Croph]

Thought I'd post this here for all to see.

It's not Iwata Asks, but there's quite a few little tidbits of information that is more fan based such as more DLC, favorite characters, how to create chapter maps, whether Awakening really is the 13th game or the 14th, etc.

Well, that was an interesting read, especially them explaining how they create the maps. But yeah, what's with everyone liking Tharja? It's true then. Game developers are making characters that appeal to themselves.

I found it funny that they answered the "feet" question. I was always wondered what's up with everyone's funky feet.

 

[---]

I like how the addition of one character automatically ruins the game for a small portion of the fanbase. Honestly haven't seen any real complaints towards the characters bar the villains aside from strictly this part of the SWF and that one complaint Chrono found on Amazon.jp. I won't defend IS's choice of characters/designs, but saying that a couple of minor characters ruins IS's and the series credibility is ridiculous. You all are acting like this is Fire Emblem's version of Sonic 06.

@Horsetail: Since it's not out in Europe yet, I would advise that you play the game for yourself and not just go off the minor nitpicks some of us have.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

Good read.

On page three I think they provided an explanation as to why the characters are missing feet. They said they began working on the project before the 3d's release. uncertain of the 3D's capabilities they didn't include more bones in the character's armature than they needed to. Like you said, the 3ds ended up having more than enough processing power to do it but it was too late. Edit i got ninja'd

At least Tharja wasn't the only name mentioned on the favorite character question. There was Gregor, your avatar, cynthia, lucina, and severa.

 

[Croph]

@--- Are you trying to imply that Tharja ruined my FE experience, sir?

Nah. Overall I do like the character designs (even the ridiculous ones imo), and some have even warmed up to me. But no matter what, we are going to get people who do not like certain characters/other things which, for them, automatically ruins the game, unfortunately. Likewise, we are going to get people who bought the game for certain characters (you might think that's shallow, but it does happen). I mean, who knows. We might get people who'll buy SMTxFE just for certain characters, not for the overall gameplay/experience. But I'm definitely not going to be one of them, especially with Roy...Me, buying SMTxFE just because of Roy appearing? Who would do that? I won't do that. I'm not that shallow, har har har.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

TripleHyper: Well I'm not really nitpicking about Tharja specificially (though well I can't really say I like her from what I've seen), but the whole models thing. I mean it's good we get Spotpass but we could have also had the unique models... (-;^;-);

But I guess. Just hope that crossover will do great justice crossing over FE overall.

 

[---]

Meh, mostly was getting sick of some of the really ridiculous complaints about how Awakening ruined the series (Character designs are the reason Awakening ruined the series? Not the story, gameplay or character personalities? Really?) and I thought I should address them. Forgive me for using one of your posts Horsetail, I'm not trying to single you out.

One more chance to redeem yourselves developers.

ONE.

MORE

CHANCE.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Fire Emblem 13 is the best Fire Emblem hands down, it got everything you need in a Fire Emblem game, Hopefully it's a first step for a greater Fire Emblem.

 

[Hickory]

Reading this thread enlightened me to the existence of SMT x FE. What do we know about it so far? I saw the trailer, and it was pretty ambiguous.... though it hinted at the return of older FE characters, which I would be totally down with.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Reading this thread enlightened me to the existence of SMT x FE. What do we know about it so far? I saw the trailer, and it was pretty ambiguous.... though it hinted at the return of older FE characters, which I would be totally down with.

All we know is that it's a Shin Megami Tensei x Fire Emblem crossover on the Wii U, and that's it.

Still probably one of the weirder crossovers out there.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

Reading this thread enlightened me to the existence of SMT x FE. What do we know about it so far? I saw the trailer, and it was pretty ambiguous.... though it hinted at the return of older FE characters, which I would be totally down with.

That's literally all we know at the moment.

 

[Hickory]

Still probably one of the weirder crossovers out there.

My initial thought, but having emulated the crap out of the fantastic Pokemon Conquest during lecture classes I'm open to this idea. I'm pumped about the idea of returning Fire Emblem characters.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

I'm pumped about the idea of returning Fire Emblem characters.

Yeah, its always nice too see old characters come back to life.

I also think it would just be neat to see them all fully animated in a different game. I don't think this is confirmed but I believe it was said that SMT's game format was going to be the one. Not completely sure.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I'm pumped about the idea of returning Fire Emblem characters.

Don't forget. Awakening does the same thing. :D

 

[Pazzo.]

I may sound like a Broken record, but... Chrom and Lyn for SSB4?

 

[Gingerbread Man]

I may sound like a Broken record, but... Chrom and Lyn for SSB4?

It would be cool but.
Why lyn?
Break it down for me. I want to know some reasons.

 

[FalKoopa]

Break it down for me. I want to know some reasons.

Being a Lyn supporter, I'll put the arguments I've heard in her support so far:
1. First Western FE lord
2. Assist Trophy in Brawl
3. (Not sure about this one) IntSys probably gives her more importance than Eliwood/Hector, seeing as she was the only one among them to get a DLC redesign.
4. (Argued mainly by KumaOso and ManlySpirit) Interesting moveset potential, as her style of swordplay is completely different from all other FE lords.
5. Female (Just Saying)

 

[Pazzo.]

It would be cool but.
Why lyn?
Break it down for me. I want to know some reasons.

1. Lyn is the First Lord you play as in the First FE Game in the US.
2. (Props. to FalKoopa) Assist Trophy in Brawl. That was like an insult to me.
3. I've heard people argue that Smash needs more Females characters, so why not?
4. (This is personal, so you can ignore it.) Fire Emblem *Gameboy* was my first game in the franchise.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I'm still raging inside everytime I remember that Hector and Sigurd didn't got any DLC redesigns. So you wanna bring back old characters but forget two of the BEST? Greaaaaaaat move IS.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Falkoopa mostly summed why I support Lyn too (though female-part isn't really a major one, but it's just for uniqueness points because she's a chick that kicks loads of ass and SHOWS it.)

Diddy: Good side of the coin: They might have got bad designs. And the Spotpass-ones have already pretty good skills.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Why Lyn if we can have Hector? I still ponder this.

Spoiler

After all, he's the only Lord capable of doing this:

Equip Hand Axe, and watch him **** the place.