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I've always disliked Manaketes and most Laguz-type units for some reason, so I'm opposed to an Animal-unit Lord.

I do think that an Archer or Mage type Lord might be interesting. Or maybe another Lance wielding one, since theres not many of those. The most recent one was Ephraim from SS if I recall correctly.
 

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I've always disliked Manaketes and most Laguz-type units for some reason, so I'm opposed to an Animal-unit Lord.

I do think that an Archer or Mage type Lord might be interesting. Or maybe another Lance wielding one, since theres not many of those. The most recent one was Ephraim from SS if I recall correctly.
I'm sorry but an Archer Lord is a stupid idea, it's ok if the bows were second weapons which makes an archer Lord is out of the question, because an archer Lord will have a really big obstacle and that obstacle is the fact that he wont be able to counter attack melee attackers.
 

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I'm sorry but an Archer Lord is a stupid idea, it's ok if the bows were second weapons but of course and archer Lord is out of the question, because an archer Lord will have a really big because he wont be able to counter attack melee attackers.
I was thinking more along the lines of them starting with a different weapon and then getting bows later, like Swords and Bows, or Lances and Bows.
 

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I'm sorry but an Archer Lord is a stupid idea, it's ok if the bows were second weapons but of course and archer Lord is out of the question, because an archer Lord will have a really big because he wont be able to counter attack melee attackers.
Tear Ring Saga had an archer lord named Holmes, and he was actually much better than the other lord in that game Ronan (who is probably weaker than any other lord in the FE series except probably FE1 Marth).
 

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Yusuke Kozaki (designer of Fire Emblem Awakening characters) was on Reddit.

Here are the FE related questions

In addition to the character Katarina from the DLC, were there any other legacy Fire Emblem characters that you would have liked to illustrate for Fire Emblem Awakening?

Ike from Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn



Good evening, Mr. Kozaki! In Fire Emblem Awakening, is there a particular character you feel closely connected with? All of their designs are unique by their personalities, so which character do you see yourself as?

Vaike. I feel close considering the personality, not the design..




Were you a fan of the Fire Emblem series before doing the designs for Awakening?

Actually no. I hadn't played the game before I started to do the design. I didn't know a lot about the game. But that also means I wasn't influenced by the previous designs, so I could work more freely.




Hello Mr. Kozaki! Thanks for this AMA.

As a big fan of Fire Emblem, I know that many fans initially questioned the character designs for Awakening -- common complaints include eccentric dress and more sexualization and fanservice (1, 2, 3) than the series is typically known for. What inspired you to take this design approach with the series?

To me they were not design with fanservice or sexualization mind. The characters personalities are what led to their design.




How do you personally feel about Tharja's massive popularity among Fire Emblem fans? Could you explain how you approached this character when designing her?

This character has a very dark aura, but she likes the main characters very much.. She could be considered a stalker in another view. This is the only Fire Emblem Character whose figure has been manufactured here in Japan.




Are there any characters that you designed for Fire Emblem that got scrapped during development? Or any characters that you wished would have been included but didn't?

There were a lot of characters to draw, so there was no big shock when characters who were dropped.





When you were designing Fire Emblem characters, did you get any specific instructions as to what each character should look like? Or did they just let your imagination roam free? Also, is there any chance of Knights of Iris being localized?

From the production company, I got the personality of each character. I designed the character from this concept. I did a few designs for each character, and the production company chose from these.


Just wondering, which character in FE:A was your favorite to design? Also, what was your primary inspiration for the design of armored characters (e.g Social Knights and especially Armor Knights)?

Lucina. For the armored charcters, the art director designed the armor, and I designed the characters in the armor.
All credit goes to serenesforest poster Wheels.

Now we know that the stupid armor is done by the art director not the character designer, because of that you can't blame the guy.
 

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GREETINGS FRIENDS!

The character popularity polls from Facebook for Awakening are now up! I'm honestly far more surprised at the runner up than the winner. Everyone loves Rukina, and I'm happy that Anna is so high with so few support options (she's mai waifu and first S support! <3)
https://www.facebook.com/Nintendo3DS/app_162848913870953

What does this say about smash?!??
To me it looks like Rukina's odds just increased a little!
Like the above poster (Ike-Sama) I get my FE news from Serenesforest.
 

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As others have said before, I wonder how many people who voted for "Marth" are people who never played FE13 and actually think that's Marth.

I am very surprised about how high Anna is though. She was like only around 10 votes behind Chrom.
 

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If for some reason Sakurai JUST had to put in another FE character, maybe he should go for a magic-based one and leave any swordsman characters to other series. Although, I really think FE can be ignored for a representative this time.
 

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*Checks poll* Stahl's #10!?

My heart bounds like a thousand fluffy kittens!!



:laugh: jeez, and I wasn't even being serious when I voted. I wasn't expecting this
 

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I recall Tharja being a more popular person.i'd like any of these mages

Tharja
Ricken <--he's awesome
Henry

Henry and ricken are my first choices
 

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Why is walhart so popular? This is the first time I've actually heard of somebody liking Walhart.
If for some reason Sakurai JUST had to put in another FE character, maybe he should go for a magic-based one and leave any swordsman characters to other series. Although, I really think FE can be ignored for a representative this time.
MU uses magic and has the benefit of being an important and main character. The other choice (because adding a minor character is not happening) would be Micaiah who would be limited to light magic.
 

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Why is walhart so popular? This is the first time I've actually heard of somebody liking Walhart.
While I do like Walhart, I'm pretty sure his place on that poll was mostly due to troll votes. When I originally voted he had barely any votes, though more than any of the other villains (FE13's story was boring!), and was already miles behind most characters.

Anyway am still annoyed that they couldn't wait for all the main characters to be released. >_>
 

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While I do like Walhart, I'm pretty sure his place on that poll was mostly due to troll votes. When I originally voted he had barely any votes, though more than any of the other villains (FE13's story was boring!), and was already miles behind most characters.

Anyway am still annoyed that they couldn't wait for all the main characters to be released. >_>
The story wasn't bad. They just tried to fit too much in in a short amount of time. So it didn't seem to have much build up to the end. I mean splitting the game up into three mini plots didn't seem to help. It should have focused more on Validar after Gangrel rather than going off into a tangent with Walhart.
 

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While I don't think FE13's story was necessarily bad, I do think it was very... predictable. Mostly because the game doesn't hide its big reveals very well. You can pretty much guess where the plot is going to go by CH 11, which makes it much less dramatic when the real baddie gets revealed.

I guess I can see why someone can call the story boring.

Anyways... Anyone got a real good explanation as to why Walhart got 2nd place in that poll? Seriously. What is up with that?
 

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I for one like Walhart, he's a bad***, have you seen his support conversations?
Oh well, even if it was a troll vote in my opinion it was a troll vote well deserved. To anyone that participated, who did you vote for, and for everyone, who from the upper part of that list would you most WANT to see in smash? Obviously I want mai waifu Anna <3 Levin sword. And I really liked the story, sue me.
 

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I liked the story myself, but I can see why others didn't.

Walhart getting 2nd place had to be the work of the trolls. Not that he isn't a decent villain, but still.
 

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I wonder why Lon'qu and the dancing girl don't get support conversations with Basilio.

They talk about him in their support conversation

Also they talk about him in Gregor's conversation
 

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I wonder why Lon'qu and the dancing girl don't get support conversations with Basilio.
Yeah, they missed some really obvious supports. Especially with some of the Spotpass characters.

srsly, Yen'fay doesn't get to support with Say'ri and Emm doesn't get supports with her siblings. WTF.
 

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srsly, Yen'fay doesn't get to support with Say'ri and Emm doesn't get supports with her siblings. WTF.
Well, they're bonus characters. I don't think those characters living is actually supposed to be part of the story line. Perhaps IS didn't want to enforce it.

I'm willing to bet that if FE13 gets a sequel they'll act like those units never joined the army or came back to life.
 

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Well, they're bonus characters. I don't think those characters living is actually supposed to be part of the story line. Perhaps IS didn't want to enforce it.

I'm willing to bet that if FE13 gets a sequel they'll act like those units never joined the army or came back to life.
Well, all the bonus chars get to support with the Avatar. I don't think they're meant to be non-canon.


Also, I think Anna should totally have been able to support w/ Chrom.
 

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Well, all the bonus chars get to support with the Avatar. I don't think they're meant to be non-canon.
I think the reason for that was marriage options.

Anyways, I really hope its non-canon because Emmeryn not dieing really hurts the story. Her death was a tragic and great part of the game which is ruined if she actually lives.
As for Walhart, Gangrel and Aversa, it just seems lame that the villains, being evil and pretty much set on killing you, would join your army.
Yen'fay I just don't care about.

Yeah, Anna should have more supports.
 

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I'm pretty sure that the "resurrected" characters would still be considered non-canonical, as it directly interferes with the actual story line. They're probably just there for gameplay purposes.
 

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Well, I'm pretty sure they are canon because there is writing about what happens to the characters after the game

Such as
Emm never taking the throne again, because she never quite recovers all the way


She didn't die anyway.

Also, Basilio isn't bonus, so he's got no excuse
 

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But didn't

Basilio fake his death, as explained in one of the final chapters?


And huh. I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't done it yet, but

Isn't Emm recruited during one of the Paralogues?


Just making sure. Trying to figure this stuff out is pretty damn confusing. It's like the Zelda timeline all over again...
 

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Yeah he did, but he is still recruited normally. He isn't a bonus character so his lack of supports isn't that fault.

Yeah, she is. BUT There is some zelda **** with some of the OTHER prologue characters.
 

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You can't go write off all the spotpass character as not being canon, there's no official source for such claim and only Nintendo can confirm such a fact, so these extra chapters are treated as canon until it's been proven otherwise.

And in the recent Fire Emblems you unlock villains by beating the game a number of times, so they just made it accessible and integrated in the story, no matter how lame it seems, having extra unique units in your team is always a plus.
 

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Well they're not part of the game until you download them in spotpass. Theoretically if that service were to end, they wouldn't be recruitable at all but the main story line would still exist as intended. That doesn't mean somebody like Priam didn't exist though. Hes out there but just not making contact with Chrom's army.
But all those other guys are still dead. :p
 

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Yeah, Anna should have more supports.
Yup. She totally should have also been able to have a daughter of her own. She could be "Anna Jr."

The spotpass paralogues are canon. I don't see why they wouldn't be. If they weren't, Priam would also have to be written off as "non-canon."

And yeah, I agree Emm not being dead is pretty stupid.
 

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I always read Walhart as Walmart.

And I ain't even American.
 
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The only mage I would like to see if we didn't get Micaiah

More likely? Sure. But still here is something I would like as well.

Others seem to agree
 
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The thing the Tactician has over the other mages is he can actually use Swords which will make him more viable in close combat.
Which is the reason why I always would say Micaiah, an ordinary mage only character would be something different. It is a different style. You have to master the art of distance fighting as using the tombs for up close combat would do jack to your opponents (very little damage).

Including the sword is just taking that away and making the character do both, which is fine, but still a little bit too similar.
 

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I reconsidered the idea of Chrom and the tactician as a tag team character. Chrom is the main character for movement, while parts of the moveset use the tactician.

For example:
Down B: Instead of a counter, the tactician jumps in to block the attack, and maybe Chrom can finish with a strike or something.
Another idea would be a combo. Chrom could strike twice, the second striking the opposing character into the air, and the tactician sends them packing with an Arcthunder or something.

Just ideas that I randomly think of.
 

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Man wish we can have the Dreadfighter class as a playable character :), He is a Ninja who can use Swords, Magic and Axes...

Just finished my Lunatic/Casual run....now get Ready Lunatic/Classic :D.
 

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Ok, now do SUPAH DUPAH Lunatic Mode: no tag team battles. ;)

That's how I would do it.

If I had the game.

Or even a damn 3DS.

And didn't live in Europe lolz
 

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Just thought of a moveset for the Dreadfighter:


Neutral B: Bolganone well be used the same way as a euption where the radius increase the more you charge.

Side B: Tomahawk throw, the Dreadfighter throws a big tomahawk works the same way as Links bomarang, but the catch here is the Dreadfighter can actually teleport to the Tomahawk location (he can either use it as an attack or as a teleport), you can actually Throw the tomahawk Vertically and use it as recovery.

Up B: it's a huge jump that can be ended as an attack if you hit the "B" button in mid Air.

Down B: The Dreadfighter counter attacks like Lucario's counter except that once he counter he teleport to the other side and he can choose if rather run or do an attack.


Final Smash: The Dreadfighter can actually teleport to the closest targets and hit them from behind causing them to be eliminated.

The Dreadfighter attacks are medium in damage and he is on middle ground in everything.

That's one wish I know that might never happen.

Ok, now do SUPAH DUPAH Lunatic Mode: no tag team battles. ;)

That's how I would do it.

If I had the game.

Or even a damn 3DS.

And didn't live in Europe lolz
It's super hard with tag teams, but still good idea :), but my tag team serve one purpose only, make the Luck of my character to be 50 xD, because I have a skill that if your luck is 50 your weapons will never break.

Well I feel ya bro, that was my feeling when the game came out in Japan. xD
 

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I still think tag teaming is kinda cheap though...

Also, I like the name Dreadfighter a lot.
 
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