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Perhaps it's because of her being a recurring character?
I imagine the reason why "Marth" is getting so many votes is because of the people that think its the real Marth and don't know the true identity yet. (Not that ALL votes are for that reason)
 

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Perhaps it's because of her being a recurring character?
I imagine the reason why "Marth" is getting so many votes is because of the people that think its the real Marth and don't know the true identity yet. (Not that ALL votes are for that reason)
I suspect that too.
 
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Well, if Anna really ends up being that popular, I wouldn't put it past Sakurai to include her over the likes of Chrom.
It was apparently a big deal that Anna was recruitable in Japan, given that it was given quite an announcement over "Fire Emblem's mascot" finally being playable in Famitsu.
Going by that, it seems weird she's only the 13th most popular female in the game over there.
 

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Not surprised that Henry is so high up there. He's probably one of the biggest dark horse characters in Fire Emblem: Awakening.
 

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Voted for Lucina the other day on that poll, just for the heck it. She was just above Henry. Really surprised about Walhart, he had next to no votes the last time I checked, not that I mind, he's actually one of my favorites in the game.

I also call BS on not including all the playable characters (I'm saying this mostly as an Ike/Priam fan, but the point still stands).
 

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I also call BS on not including all the playable characters (I'm saying this mostly as an Ike/Priam fan, but the point still stands).
I understand why they did it: they want to avoid spoilers(hence why Lucina is still "Marth"). Also, since Priam hasn't officially been revealed yet, I doubt he would have gotten many votes anyway(remember, this is the North American Poll). I really think that they should have waited until all the spotpass chapters had been released to do something like this.
 

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I found the artwork version of the FE5 ending image cg that I would like to see as an avatar:

 

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Prove me otherwise?
1. The only thing going for Chrom is recentness.

2. Golden says that Anna is perceived somewhat as a mascot of the series in Japan.

3. Anna has appeared in more games in the series than any lord.

4. Females are worthier. :troll:

I can't, but you don't see me making assumptions.
Don't worry. He's using a logical fallacy. Just because we can't prove him wrong, doesn't mean he's right. ;)
 

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I found the artwork version of the FE5 ending image cg that I would like to see as an avatar:

D'aww, that's really cute. You guys are making me wanna play FE5 now...
 

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1. The only thing going for Chrom is recentness.

2. Golden says that Anna is perceived somewhat as a mascot of the series in Japan.

3. Anna has appeared in more games in the series than any lord.

4. Females are worthier. :troll:



Don't worry. He's using a logical fallacy. Just because we can't prove him wrong, doesn't mean he's right. ;)
Yet when I use recentness and game appearances for a character as Impa I get demonised to the level of the Anti-Chirst. :rolleyes:
Are females also more worthy than transsexuals btw?

Marth, Ike, Chrom and Roy. That's all to expect, and that's all I'm wishing for.

Will forever miss the awesomeness of Sigurd and Hector though :urg:
 

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D'aww, that's really cute. You guys are making me wanna play FE5 now...
After my most recent play through, I probably won't touch FE5 for a while.

The only other FE I like as much as FE5 is FE6. However, FE5 and FE6 are pretty different from one another aside from the high difficulty.

Also, since I already posted some artwork.

Here is some artwork that shows the decline for the FE series for character design:

Ready for war:











Ready to ***** (a word that rhymes with war that also begins with "w"):










 

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Yet when I use recentness and game appearances for a character as Impa I get demonised to the level of the Anti-Chirst. :rolleyes:
Recentness means bull****, even for Chrom. If Sakurai doesn't want Chrom, Chrom won't be in simple as that.

Multiple appearances appearances also isn't a strong argument, but in Fire Emblem's case, it means more, since the casts are different from game to game.

Also, you don't get "demonized" for using those arguments, you get "demonized" because you simply don't shut up about Impa and derail posts by mentioning her at all the times.

Are females also more worthy than transsexuals btw?
I'm not even commenting on this. It simply gives away the fact that you're trolling.
 

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It's not that the older designs are better perse. It's just that they are a whole lot more tasteful. And I guess there's only so much you can think of with about 13 games with a mostly new cast every game. Nono is absolutely No-Go though. She looks like a 8 year old, at best... Dressed like that? It's not good. And I don't really like how most females are in that same bended over position in their official art like the bunnygirl.

Guess it's just a reflection of society today vs society back then. :rolleyes: IT'S ALL ****!

Oh, but I like the Dark Mage girl actually. Shame that ALL Dark Mages dress like that. Am kind of surprised that SHE is supposed to be a stalker though. Would bet my ass that most females dressed like that in REAL LIFE would GET stalkers, not the other way around. BUT WHATEVER.

I'm not even always trolling. Just when people really ask for it. Which is more often lately. So yeah.
 

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It's not that the older designs are better perse. It's just that they are a whole lot more tasteful. And I guess there's only so much you can think of with about 13 games with a mostly new cast every game. Nono is absolutely No-Go though. She looks like a 8 year old, at best... Dressed like that? It's not good. And I don't really like how most females are in that same bended over position in their official art like the bunnygirl.

Guess it's just a reflection of society today vs society back then. :rolleyes: IT'S ALL ****!
Different artists.

The only Fire Emblem game with such fanservice is Awakening. Despite the complaints about Shadow Dragon's art style, it was still realistic.
Awakening is much more anime influenced that any of the previous Fire Emblem games. The art style gives it away.
 

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This is how FE used to handle very beautiful women:




"Sexy", yet at the same time very classy and regal.
 

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I think Tharja could actually fit into other FE games without a big hitch. Might be just me though. Her design looks fine to me.

Others need some work.
 

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This is how FE used to handle very beautiful women:




"Sexy", yet at the same time very classy and regal.
You could say that to most women in FE before Awakening.

Elincia also looks quite good in her Radiant Dawn artwork:


Other ridiculous part of Awakening's art style is the armored Knight's attire. Compare Tauroneo with Kellam to see what I mean:


 

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I think Tharja could actually fit into other FE games without a big hitch. Might be just me though. Her design looks fine to me.

Others need some work.
Nope not seeing it. The only real "risque" character I can think of prior to FE13 is Sonia, and she was specifically made to be a temptress. There might be one or two that I am forgetting (possibly the wolf queen from FE10).
 

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Nope not seeing it. The only real "risque" character I can think of prior to FE13 is Sonia, and she was specifically made to be a temptress. There might be one or two that I am forgetting (possibly the wolf queen from FE10).
To each his own I suppose.
 

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Nailah was overpowered as ****. Still, Caineghis was a million times more awesome.

Dat battle theme. :shades:

 

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I wonder why did FE13 veer so much towards fanservice in the first place. The series is better off without it.
 

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Also, since I already posted some artwork.

Here is some artwork that shows the decline for the FE series for character design:

Ready for war:











Ready to ***** (a word that rhymes with war that also begins with "w"):










Ah now I'm beginning to see what you mean (also probably didn't help the hired some questionable manga artists to do the DLC artwork).

I do think the majority of Awakening's female cast is fine, however, and as a side note, I'm also really glad they didn't ruin Tiki when they made her grow up (was kinda weird they gave her a British accent though).

Other ridiculous part of Awakening's art style is the armored Knight's attire. Compare Tauroneo with Kellam to see what I mean:
Yeah some of the standard class designs I didn't care for either. It really kinda sucks that they also used them for the DLC lords (Ex. DLC Micaiah looks like Tharja because she's also a Dark Mage in this game).
 

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Yeah some of the standard class designs I didn't care for either. It really kinda sucks that they also used them for the DLC lords (Ex. DLC Micaiah looks like Tharja because she's also a Dark Mage in this game).
You could say that Tharja looks like that BECAUSE she's a Dark Mage.

All female Dark Mages look like that, so Tharja and Micaiah are no exceptions.
 

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Yikes...I'm glad I'm not the only one that's not fond of all the fanservice in Awakening. You don't need the fanservice turned up to eleven to be sexy, as Chrono pointed out...Meh, to me, more of the "modest" or "innocent" looks equals sexy/beautiful.

Like look at Titania.

Even with all that armour, she looks beautiful, and reasonable! I'm curious (or should I say worried) as to what route FE14 will take...

Well, speaking of Awakening's fashion...I agree that some of it is a bit ridiculous. I mean, just take a look at Sully, the female Cavalier...



Cavaliers these days... :rolleyes:
 

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I didn't have too much of a problem with the female characters in Awakening (DLC characters are another story), sure, they could probably stand to put on a few more clothes, but IMO all the designs still fit the characters pretty well, and it was mostly due to the art style, which in general I didn't mind. I wouldn't want them getting any more fanservicey in future FE games though, this is pretty much the limit for me. Especially since many other video game series depict women a lot worse.

That being said, this is where I started to question things:
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WHY FE WHY

At least they also included male characters...
 

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I didn't have too much of a problem with the female characters in Awakening (DLC characters are another story), sure, they could probably stand to put on a few more clothes, but IMO all the designs still fit the characters pretty well, and it was mostly due to the art style, which in general I didn't mind. I wouldn't want them getting any more fanservicey in future FE games though, this is pretty much the limit for me. Especially since many other video game series depict women a lot worse.

That being said, this is where I started to question things:
[collapse=Damn horny fanboys]




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WHY FE WHY

At least they also included male characters...
I am going to have to severely disagree with you here. As Croph and Frost pointed out, quite a few of the class designs were poorly done, not just the fanservice with a lot of the female characters.

Just look at the beauty to the FE5 ending artwork I posted today. That shows far more intimacy and love than any of those "confession" pics in FE13 (many of which are downright embarassing or hilarious).

Also, is that Lucina in a thong bikini? What the hell IS? What the hell?

That is the first time I have seen that Lucina pic, where is it from? Because I am pretty sure it was not in the beach chapter DLC.
 

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I didn't have too much of a problem with the female characters in Awakening (DLC characters are another story), sure, they could probably stand to put on a few more clothes, but IMO all the designs still fit the characters pretty well, and it was mostly due to the art style, which in general I didn't mind. I wouldn't want them getting any more fanservicey in future FE games though, this is pretty much the limit for me. Especially since many other video game series depict women a lot worse.

That being said, this is where I started to question things:
[collapse=Damn horny fanboys]




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WHY FE WHY

At least they also included male characters...
This is in the game?!?!?

Why IS? Why? I mean I know Anna looks good in a swimsuit (:troll:) but why?!?!? Please tell me that this is DLC and not canon to the story.

Also Chrono, that isn't a thong.
 

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This is in the game?!?!?

Why IS? Why? I mean I know Anna looks good in a swimsuit (:troll:) but why?!?!? Please tell me that this is DLC and not canon to the story.
Fortunately, its just DLC. However, that IS even made that DLC is disturbing enough.
 

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So is FE just an ecchi series now? Do the female characters keep their integrity, personality wise, in the game? Because I can live with fanservice designs if FE's great cast of characters remains intact.
 

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So is FE just an ecchi series now? Do the female characters keep their integrity, personality wise, in the game? Because I can live with fanservice designs if FE's great cast of characters remains intact.
There some dumb anime tropes in it, like Lucina freaking out over a bug and Frederick pasting nude pictures of Chrom as part of a recruitment drive.
 

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There some dumb anime tropes in it, like Lucina freaking out over a bug and Frederick pasting nude pictures of Chrom as part of a recruitment drive.
I don't think a girl freaking out over a bug is an anime exclusive trope.

And not gonna lie I find the Chrom thing hilarious though out of place.

But you didn't answer my question. Do the female characters still keep their integrity?
 

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I don't think a girl freaking out over a bug is an anime exclusive trope.
Its out of place for someone that has probably killed dozens of men on the field of battle and grew up in a hellish future.

Also, the example I listed just answered your own question.
 
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