Wreck-It Bowser

[Espy Rose]

It's pretty bad. Definitely worse than Brawl.
It has its own appeal though.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Its definitely not bad, and a ton of smash players who have actually put time into it have ended up loving it: http://www.dualshockers.com/2012/11...tars-is-no-super-smash-bros-brawl-its-better/

 

[Cassius.]

There's not enough bowser players in the world

It's because he's always portrayed as the bad guy

That makes no sense. People will play who they want to play. I mean if you're dealing with children or immature people I guess that would hold true but after a while I'm seeing less and less of this. From a competitive standpoint, I would link Bowser being a legitimately bad character as the main reason before I would say he's a bad guy. If Bowser were even a decent character in this game I'm sure we'd have a bunch of kids using him in all types of environments. Kids who want to be rebels and use a bad guy for their first time, or kids who are tired of using Mario (I'm speaking from a childish mentality of course) or any good guy really.

The fanbase, of course, helps, but are we really interested in that in a competitive environment? Having 500 Sonic players is great because they were all fans of the franchise, but what about the ones that will actually rise up and truly show Sonic's worth? That amounts to, what, 5% of that?

I play PSA and I use Evil Cole. It's weird because my friend showed me the game and I looked and I saw before even playing the game myself that I would use him. I guess every character fits a different mold for a different type of player, but they all just look and play weird. I guess I like ECM because he gives me that overwhelming/easy to transition from camping to attacking Falco kind of feel, with Grind jump cancel -> bombs and ****...I guess I really am a Falco player at heart.

Anyway, I'm really not feeling the game as a whole. It's fun, but I wouldn't put it above Brawl honestly...it just feels off. It's a different game, so it really shouldn't be compared to Brawl, but I wouldn't see myself playing this game for an extremely extended period of time like I did for Brawl and Melee. It just looks and feels awkward.

I could agree with Ryko in saying that it's definitely not a Brawl game, but that's common sense. We could have all predicted that a year ago when the concept of using supers to kill was introduced. It's not rocket science. The question of it being better is up to the player, and I personally am not seeing that.

Then again I play Marvel so what do I know. I haven't even gotten around to trying P:M. I keep telling myself that I should/need to play it to see what the talk is all about, but I keep forgetting, and in all honesty I'm not really missing much if the Brawl community isn't being shaken by a side game lol. I'll get around to it eventually...or never, I don't know. It's like the same thing with Brawl+/- and Balanced Brawl. The **** had heat for a while and then it just died out...I think. I would actually be a bit worried and surprised if those games were still around. I do hope that P:M stays around longer but who knows.

 

[Espy Rose]

Limit, is there anyone here that can spectate a few Bowser videos for me? I'm gonna try and get some footage or something today.

 

[Cassius.]

You mean like watch it and give an opinion? I can do that.

I don't really know if you want an opinion from a washed up fraud like me though haha

 

[Flayl]

No Dark Peaching in the Bowser room!

Epsy you've been saying that for like how many weeks now?

 

[Cassius.]

lmao Flayl calling me out

You can send the replays to me and I can upload them (if you want) so you can get more critiques or whatever from all of us. I actually need incentive to upload replays anyway, I had like 3 requests and I just do **** throughout the day and then it hits 3:00 AM and I'm like "dang I forgot to do something..."

Being quite honest you could really send them to any of us and we could get a look at it. It just depends on who it'd be easier to get to, and I think it's me...I'm free all day aside from watching the NFL Wild Card games today, and my Wii is right here lol

 

[Rizen]

Happy Birthday Uncle

P:M has too different a system that confuses me. I have really played Melee since Brawl launched. I figure SSB4 will launch soon (maybe) and I'm going to stick with Brawl until then because the solid tourney and wifi scenes.
I don't have a PS3 so no Allstars.

 

[Yobolight]

Project M Bowser is pretty Sweet, just saying.

 

[Cassius.]

that doesn't really motivate me to play it lol

 

[Espy Rose]

Bowser's fsmash explodes.
AND I SWEAR I WILL FLAYL. I just need someone to upload videos. :<

 

[Cassius.]

espy I'll do it for you if you send the replays.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I would record the replays for you but my Wii doesnt work :<

 

[tru0067]

That makes no sense. People will play who they want to play. I mean if you're dealing with children or immature people I guess that would hold true but after a while I'm seeing less and less of this. From a competitive standpoint, I would link Bowser being a legitimately bad character as the main reason before I would say he's a bad guy. If Bowser were even a decent character in this game I'm sure we'd have a bunch of kids using him in all types of environments. Kids who want to be rebels and use a bad guy for their first time, or kids who are tired of using Mario (I'm speaking from a childish mentality of course) or any good guy really.

The fanbase, of course, helps, but are we really interested in that in a competitive environment? Having 500 Sonic players is great because they were all fans of the franchise, but what about the ones that will actually rise up and truly show Sonic's worth? That amounts to, what, 5% of that?

Your probably right. Ganon is evil but tons of people play him

 

[Cassius.]

but would tons of people play him in a tournament setting or with something on the line?

suddenly that number decreases significantly.

 

[Espy Rose]

My replays...they...
...They keep desynching.

 

[Cassius.]

do you know why?

maybe you may have played on a wii that had a no-trip code on, maybe your wii doesn't have that on. if you know for a fact that that's the case you can still send it to me, i have that code toggled on my wii.

 

[Espy Rose]

I know that tripping desynchs. I recorded replays on my Wii.
For some reason they're just...doing it anyways. :<

 

[Rizen]

^Why is your name Espy Rose? Just curious.
(Speaking of good Sonics)

 

[tru0067]

but would tons of people play him in a tournament setting or with something on the line?

suddenly that number decreases significantly.

Very true, and somewhat amusing

 

[Rizen]

*needs activity*
Marth's been giving me a ton of trouble lately. The only effective move vs him is fortress; he swats Bowser away easily and fire breath is almost worthless. Help?

 

[Cassius.]

Punch 'em.

 

[Flayl]

Rizen, have you tried watching vids of Bowser VS Marth?

Search for Vex VS Pierce, Zigsta VS Nike, Ixis vs Anaky to get a general idea of what to do. Firebreath really shouldn't have been one of your go-to options and fortress being the only reliable move is untrue

 

[Z'zgashi]

Marth is on of my favorite MUs to play as Bowser actually lol. I also love going against ROB, but I love playing ROB in general cuz its probably my most played MU in the entire game (maybe MK more but its close).

And MK never bothers me cuz I still have Yoshi, and Yoshi is probably one of the top 10 best characters in the MK match up, and then you factor in that most MKs lack experience against Yoshi, and it results in a very winnable MU. Only time I ever lose to MK is when they are clearly better or have tons of Yoshi experience.

 

[Espy Rose]

Nike and I have played a loooot of Bowser vs. Marth.
My favorite Bowser MU so far.

 

[Cassius.]

Bowser vs Falco is probably mine.

Or Snake. Marth is pretty fun too though. I have some old matches against a Marth player up on the 'tube.

 

[Rizen]

I'll look those Bowser vs Marth games up, thanks. I don't really have Bowser exp vs Marth so he shuts me down hard. I'm still trying to figure out a good use for fire breath; edge guarding and vs bad people seem to be the only safe ways. Charizard's is better.

Yoshi is surprisingly good vs MK. The first time I used my scrub MK vs a Yoshi he murdered me.

My favorite Bowser MU... hhm, IDK. Several are fun and a handful are annoying as hell.


Edit: Yeah Marth's not too bad unless the lag is bad. I didn't bother saving any from that set because the lag. Lag Marth is harder for most of my characters than offline or good connection.

 

[B!squick]

DotA 2 is slowly consuming my life. I also randomly have 6 passes I'm not doing anything with, so if anyone else wants to waste countless hours on this game (297 so far for me and I think I got it in November), just give me a holla.

 

[Flayl]

I have 5 passes and I've barely even played the game. I got tired of DotA-style games with League of Legends, so yeah...

 

[Rizen]

^What's DotA stand for?

How does Bowser do in teams? He doesn't seem to get any special boosts like some characters and he's a big target.

 

[B!squick]

Bowser's good at getting team killed. :D

Defense of the Ancients, originally a mod for Warcraft 3, it was the first of its kind spawning many other MOBAs. Now Valve is making a full release version.

And Flayl, if you're tired of MOBAs, you must not have played Awesomenauts. I'd probably play that game more if I had any friends that played.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Defense of the Ancients.

And Bowser is pretty unremarkable in teams, he doesnt have anything that really stands out or would be a big help, and imo hes probably bottom 5 in the game in a team setting. However, he can stock tank really well due to his great defensive options and massive weight, so you CAN work him into a team if you team with a great 1v2 character that you can support like MK, Lucario, Ness, etc

EDIT: Dammit ninjad

 

[Rizen]

Wreck-It Ralph was a good movie. Too bad a ghost who is not too bright got more lines than any other cameo character including Bowser. These boards are too inactive.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Yeah I dont really play Brawl too much lately. I mostly just play PS Allstars with the occasional LoL and Project M.

 

[Deleted member 189823]

Glad to see you're not one of those Nintendo fanbois/Sony haters that are as shallow to start hating PS Allstars and call it a "poor copy" of SSB.

 

[Espy Rose]

Even though it kinda is a poor copy of SSB.

 

[Cassius.]

I just dont like the game, it feels too rinse-repeat to me and this is after playing it since the release date up to yesterday

It could be that I play Evil Cole and most players are terrible at the game and have horrible habits, but idk. I still play Brawl but b a r e l y

 

[Espy Rose]

Evil Cole?
You scumbag.

 

[Z'zgashi]

ECole too OP, my brother uses him too lol.

And whats your PSN :o

 

[Cassius.]

It's too easy. And I'm a grimy person.

LimitedEffort is my psn