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! WORLD SMASH HIP-HOP ! Rap/HipHop/R&B/ Discussion Thread (explicit warning)

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IAmBlu3 said:
i lol'd.


anyway, Ludacris is the best rapper that will probably never put out a classic album. agree or disagree?
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~N9NE~ said:
Jadakiss..
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2 really good choices. Honestly idk who I think is better out of Jada and Luda. Probably Jada by a little bit. I can't think of better rappers that qualify for this tho. Kiss has just never really had the top tier production consistently like Jay and Nas have had or else I think he'd be right there with them in the convo. Ever heard Kiss over Premo? ****'s butter.
 
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Huh? Nas's production is ridiculous. Illmatic had an all-star production lineup, It Was Written half done by Dr. Dre...that should be enough right there, need I go on?

@Boofy lol you chose pretty mediocre tracks from both artists. :/
 
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~N9NE~ said:
Jadakiss..
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you messed up my next question >_> i consider Jada to be a rapper that has the potential to make a classic but just hasn't made it yet. Luda, on the other, i think he doesn't stand a chance of making one. maybe he's too comical or something. i dunno.
Niko45 said:
2 really good choices. Honestly idk who I think is better out of Jada and Luda. Probably Jada by a little bit. I can't think of better rappers that qualify for this tho. Kiss has just never really had the top tier production consistently like Jay and Nas have had or else I think he'd be right there with them in the convo. Ever heard Kiss over Premo? ****'s butter.
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agreed....though this is the first time i've heard someone use butter to describe something lol.
Niko45 said:
Huh? Nas's production is ridiculous. Illmatic had an all-star production lineup, It Was Written half done by Dr. Dre...that should be enough right there, need I go on?

@Boofy lol you chose pretty mediocre tracks from both artists. :/
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well, recently, Nas' production hasn't even been close to those days. after hearing some justice league productions for rick ross, Maybach Music 3 especially, i'm curious as to how nas would sound rapping over their beats. that maybach music is a damm rap symphony. would be amazing to hear nas over something like that.

agreed with the second point.

Ludacris - War With God
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hw_nccJQplE

Jadakiss - We Gon Make It
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCCEQf0SL0U
 
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I love Nas over premo, easily my favorite combo

Nas is like, 2nd childhood, new york state of mind...(my alarm clock) I never sleep, cuz sleep is the cousin of death

the rest of his production is kinda hit and miss sometimes. particularly on his garbage albums

but i bump lost tapes instrumentals for days
 
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Nas just needs to get his head out of his *** and actually try to work with people. it literally seems like sometimes, he doesn't even listen to the instrumental to his songs. like really, who the hell thought Zone Out was a good instrumental?? it's strange. this guy would rather work with chris webber than premo.
 
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IAmBlu3 said:
Nas just needs to get his head out of his *** and actually try to work with people. it literally seems like sometimes, he doesn't even listen to the instrumental to his songs. like really, who the hell thought Zone Out was a good instrumental?? it's strange. this guy would rather work with chris webber than premo.
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thats tru nas is a person that focus more on lyrics then instrumentals
 
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I def agree Nas's more recent production is hit or miss, but he still has some monster beats in more recent years. Black Republican >>>>> Rick Ross. I find a lot of Rick Ross's production is a little too busy for a great rapper to actually shine on. Like the production itself just dominates cause its so good. That's why Rick Ross does so well over it...just keep it simple, let the beat carry you.

I def think Luda is capable of making a classic, example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yKeWWZpGzQ

My main point about Nas's production is career-wise there are very few rappers who have had that kind of quality. Imagine how nasty Jadakiss would be over illmatic level production. Actually, here's a sample (tho this is just a freestyle): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_iAXBXlhW0

Matter of fact, here's some more bodied Kiss over Nas production: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiFTkB5pVs

Not to make this all about Nas vs Kiss but if you're gonna make a classic you pretty much need classic production as well. How many classics have mediocre production? Not many, not any I can think of...
 
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IAmBlu3 said:
it literally seems like sometimes, he doesn't even listen to the instrumental to his songs. like really, who the hell thought Zone Out was a good instrumental?? it's strange. this guy would rather work with chris webber than premo.
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thisthisthis

niko i agree, nas HAS HAD great production. but not consistently



luda was best when he was hungry. now hes rich and he can just make movies and stuff :c
 
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ehh

Theater of the mind is definitely one of my fav albums from him

I don't like 3/4th of battle of the sexes..
 
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Niko45 said:
I def agree Nas's more recent production is hit or miss, but he still has some monster beats in more recent years. Black Republican >>>>> Rick Ross. I find a lot of Rick Ross's production is a little too busy for a great rapper to actually shine on. Like the production itself just dominates cause its so good. That's why Rick Ross does so well over it...just keep it simple, let the beat carry you.

I def think Luda is capable of making a classic, example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yKeWWZpGzQ

My main point about Nas's production is career-wise there are very few rappers who have had that kind of quality. Imagine how nasty Jadakiss would be over illmatic level production. Actually, here's a sample (tho this is just a freestyle): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_iAXBXlhW0

Matter of fact, here's some more bodied Kiss over Nas production: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYiFTkB5pVs

Not to make this all about Nas vs Kiss but if you're gonna make a classic you pretty much need classic production as well. How many classics have mediocre production? Not many, not any I can think of...
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speaking of black republican, i think jay got nas on there, though Nas' last bars >>>>
Could it be the forces of darkness,
against hood angels of good That forms street politics
makes a sweet honest kid Turn illegal for commerce
to get his feet out of them Converse, that's my word.

that jada over it ain't hard to tell was....not good. i mean the lyrics are good and the beat is obviously amazing but they don't mesh. the second link, though, would be a better comparison.




speaking of classic albums, what do ya'll think is the weakest track on a certified classic album?

Jigga dat Ni**a from blueprint is definitely the first song that came to mind
 
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You guys should listen to Chronic Future. They're the people that Linkin Park could have been had they not stopped their rap rock.

Time and Time Again (if you haven't heard it before)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEtUCYZFnGo

New York, NY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYSXwGzLijE&feature=related
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**** dude, I totally forgot about this band. I dunno if they will fly well in here, but they were pretty god**** awesome. The two songs you linked are both great (I love NY especially). I love the rapper guy's delivery.
 
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IAmBlu3 said:
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speaking of classic albums, what do ya'll think is the weakest track on a certified classic album?

Jigga dat Ni**a from blueprint is definitely the first song that came to mind
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Below The Heavens - Juicin' Dranks

marshall mathers lp - amityville

that's just off the top. jigga that ***** has a terrible hook. and worst part is that the song starts off with it, it's hard to bring the vibe back after that
 
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soap said:
Below The Heavens - Juicin' Dranks

marshall mathers lp - amityville

that's just off the top. jigga that ***** has a terrible hook. and worst part is that the song starts off with it, it's hard to bring the vibe back after that
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Amityville would be so sick if Bizarre wasn't on it. I love the beat and Em's verse, but Bizarre is like anti-hip hop
 
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Ok so I'm not listening to Mood Muzik 4 until I get the physical copy. People are meant to get it on the 26th so I hit the distributors on Twitter seeing how long international shipping will take...

chessjbtv
@gracieprod Any idea how long it will take MM4 to ship to London?

gracieprod
@chessjbtv international can take 2-3 weeks

I lost.
 
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now in my younger days i used to sport a raaaaaaaaaag,
back pack full of cans plus a .44 mag,
G'ed up from the feet up,
blue'd up from the shoe up how i grew up


also, dre's instrumental on 2001 for "pause 4 porno" is ****in hilarious by itself. lol
 
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