Will Fox stay Top Tier??

[Lithos]

Well said Mac 77. Personally some of the best players I ever played in Melee were using characters considered low tier, like Pichu/Bowser/Mewtwo. So tiers don't mean a **** thing to me. I just don't want the Brawl tournament scene ruined by 70% of the players using Metaknight or Marth because someone out there stated that they were top tier.

Yeah. Take Gimpy for example. Boozer anyone? lol

Tiers should by no means stop anyone from using who they like. If somone really enjoys a character and have talent, then there's nothing stopping them from being great. It's just that if they come face to face with someone equally motivated and talented using a character with an advantage over theirs, then they're gonna have a tougher time. But there's never a guaranteed win based on tiers.

 

[Sajun88]

Yeah Gimpyfish is a freaking beast, best Bowser player out there IMO. And he's more than decent with Metaknight too.

 

[Yeroc]

I'm pretty certain you all needn't worry about tourneys making the game stale. In fact, at this stage, tourneys will be what brings out the most diversity because everybody will be trying to figure out exactly how far the game can be taken, and people's differences in opinion about what's good and what's not will be what fuels that exploration. Already we have widely varying opinions about what characters will prove to be any good (well, besides Marth) and so there will be many people out there looking to prove that such and such a character is a contender for any of the upper echelons of the tier list (again, besides n00bs using Marth thinking he'll be a quick and easy win - but just disregard them).

 

[technomancer]

Well said Mac 77. Personally some of the best players I ever played in Melee were using characters considered low tier, like Pichu/Bowser/Mewtwo. So tiers don't mean a **** thing to me. I just don't want the Brawl tournament scene ruined by 70% of the players using Metaknight or Marth because someone out there stated that they were top tier.

How would this ruin the tournament scene?

 

[AllStars]

hes always going to be on top

 

[controlfreak7]

How would this ruin the tournament scene?

that's easy its simply because it would result in less diversity. The game isn't as fun if everyone u go against plays fox or something. Anyways i've seen a lot of characters that are really good and i totally see as being top tier if there is a tier list. Some of these characters would be rob, marth, and metaknight.

But thats if there is a tier list. I think that there shouldn't even be a tier list. Everyone seems really even like without a doubt.

O and yes fox can shinespike, but it is much harder to do in brawl (i think mainly because his falling speed is obviouisly slow than in melee) and usually requires a timed edge hog.

Im not saying that fox is horrible, but i know that he isn't top tier

 

[Kips]

hes always going to be on top

That has little to no logic behind it though. The fact that he's weaker now and a lot of his critical manuevers have been severed means that he can't perform as well as before!

 

[BentoBox]

who cares
ppl who mained fox because he was top tier are posers!

/endthread

 

[-Shion-]

Many people still say that Fox will move down intiers, but we dont take into account that everyone else who was high tier in melee has been nerfed like hell.

Fox's only nerfs are his reflector and fall speed....

IMO, if you are skilled, he will stay top tier.

No doubt about it.

 

[Mac_77]

Many people still say that Fox will move down intiers, but we dont take into account that everyone else who was high tier in melee has been nerfed like hell.

Fox's only nerfs are his reflector and fall speed....

IMO, if you are skilled, he will stay top tier.

No doubt about it.

Skill really has nothing to do with the tier, skill is based only on the player using that character. If you are truly a skilled player, tier does not matter...

If you like the character, then use the character.

 

[Falconv1.0]

He's still very good,a nd will be around high tier for sure, unless there are things in his meta game we dont know about.

We dont know, it's way too early to tell, and these threads aren't getting us ANYWHERE clsoe to an answer.

 

[kobefox2485]

i think fox will be at tops

 

[Animal control]

i can't really tell but i got fox for top tier

 

[Fr3nchD3vilDawg]

thank you... i don't really care if Fox is top tier or not and judging by youtube vids, i think he'll be middle-high. But the point i will laugh at tier chasers as im killing them with fox's nerfed up-A and shine! Gl beating me =P! FOX FTW

 

[kobefox2485]

i think he will be top because he kept his speed, his power looks improved in some of his weak attacks, and he is more floaty which makes him harder to combo, which was a bad weakness for him

 

[ChopingBoard]

Even if he Uair and up smash are nerfed, his Bair and over smash are really powerful. Drill shining is really easy, nair-shine is really easy too. but i would say it would be too early to call this one

 

[ChopingBoard]

Skill really has nothing to do with the tier, skill is based only on the player using that character. If you are truly a skilled player, tier does not matter...

If you like the character, then use the character.

ok then play kirby against fox in melee and come back to me on that one. i agree with you only to an extent

 

[Zodiac]

No, me and link will beat him down to low tier and make sure he stays there.

 

[Big Burn]

space animals will forever be top tier in smash

 

[Falconv1.0]

How can we tell what tier he will be in at this time?

Big Burn, your posts are very close to nothing but spam.

 

[errtu]

no he won´t. there are more great characters this time around. and i think it is all for the best. more diversity , not the same 2-3 characters over and over again . pretty cool that everyone seems awesome, lots more interesting match ups

 

[Yoshi'stheBombers7]

no he won´t. there are more great characters this time around. and i think it is all for the best. more diversity , not the same 2-3 characters over and over again . pretty cool that everyone seems awesome, lots more interesting match ups

I agree with you. There are so many good characters this time. Plus, it's too early.

Yoshi's Top Tier anyways.

 

[matthewmilad]

it is possible, but im going for samus as top tier.

Hahahaha don't make me laugh. Samus easily looks to be on the lower end.

 

[Luck-NYC/NJ]

Hahahaha don't make me laugh. Samus easily looks to be on the lower end.

sorry ur wrong. samus isnt top tier but she is very good. she didnt receive any big nerfs besides her super missles. otherwise shes still pretty godly.

fox is still broken in many aspects but in brawl i found him much harder to use. before it was straight forward what to do with him because you have so much versitiliy because of movement out of the shine. now that the shine is stationary you cut down fox's ability to have a diverse approach which makes him seemingly slower. not to mention that every character in the game got "seemingly" slower.

fox might be top tier still but no one is good enough to know yet.

 

[Qlink]

Maybe there might not be tiers since
Sakura said "I blah blah balanced it all bllaaahh

 

[Platanos]

I believe he'll stay Top or move down to High tier.
I'd be surprised to see him any lower.

 

[Animal control]

i got fox for top tier

 

[Gindler]

I agree with you. There are so many good characters this time. Plus, it's too early.

Yoshi's Top Tier anyways.

Yeah, I think fox might lose a few spots. seeing how yoshi will be top tier once people FINALLY see how good he is in the hands of a master.

 

[White_Lightning]

It sounds to me like people make Fox's "nerf" sound a lot more severe than it actually is. I'll admit I haven't actually played Brawl yet, still, from what I've seen in videos and what I've heard, Fox doesn't sound like a bad character. I can't say whether he'll be top-tier again, but I have no doubt he'll still at least be high-tier or upper mid-tier.

 

[Fox McCl0ud]

I think he will stay top tier. He still seemed strong from some of the youtube videos.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Fox is high tier.

 

[Roscoewolf]

I think the whole teir system may even change with less defined Teirs, with characters being more balanced, some characters working slightly better on others , rock paper scissors deal

 

[rove]

I say its to early to even call him anytire at the moment, people still havent found every thing you can do with the characters, glitches, and other things that make this game unique for the characters.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

It sounds to me like people make Fox's "nerf" sound a lot more severe than it actually is. I'll admit I haven't actually played Brawl yet, still, from what I've seen in videos and what I've heard, Fox doesn't sound like a bad character. I can't say whether he'll be top-tier again, but I have no doubt he'll still at least be high-tier or upper mid-tier.

I'm not saying Fox's nerfs are bad, I'm just curious as to what the Fox players will think of his tier rank, that's all.

 

[IrishSheikah]

SHEESHA CACKOY!!! At least thats what I think he said.

 

[_Phloat_]

who cares
ppl who mained fox because he was top tier are posers!

/endthread

I started fox because he was the best. I play him now because I like his playstyle. Am I poser, and if so tell me what I am posing as.

 

[Fox McCl0ud]

Fox has always been and always will be top tier.

 

[DiasFlac]

I say we trash tiers and just play the game.

 

[Hanniah]

Fox will doubtlessly stay high in tiers, maybe not Top though; there's harsh concurrence ;D He's still ***-kicking, and the loss of WDing/WSing doesn't make him bad.

 

[Lootic]

i think the game is so balanced tiers really dont matter any more, its more skill,mindgames and the quantity of characters youll become able to play that is going to matter and less im chosing a character whos boooooooriiiiiing to play as cause i want to win.