Wii Fit Trainer confirmed!

[Hammer B]

I wonder what Kirby will look like after inhaling the Wii Fit Trainer...

 

[Pyra]

I wonder what Kirby will look like after inhaling the Wii Fit Trainer...

 

[Hypercat-Z]

Theory: Sakurai was browsing the web, looking for ideas for new characters. He noticed that there was a lot of people mentioning "WTF" characters. Sakurai, being dyslexic or foreign or something, poked around and concluded they meant actually meant WFT, promptly including the most popular character with those initials. The moral: always spell out your swear words.

But she's also WTF, so your theory may be partially true.

 

[colder_than_ice]

I am seriously loving this character so much, I hope she's top tier.

 

[kikaru]

I am seriously loving this character so much, I hope she's top tier.

Sorry to disappoint but she's going to be the most balanced character in the game.

 

[Pyra]

Sorry to disappoint but she's going to be the most balanced character in the game.

You made me laugh, sir. Well played.
...I sincerely hope this is the case too.

 

[Neanderthal]

Nah, there were people who expected an AC rep. There was a thread for the villager. Nobody nor their grandmothers expected Wii Fit Trainer.

As for losing interest in her after shes no longer the new unexpected character, that's something you could say about literally every character in the cast. When you see something a lot, it becomes less interesting. Thank you for pointing out the most apparent aspect of human nature.

You're mistaking excitement for actual likeability and stay-ability.

I'm still very much interested in characters with personality and back-story like Link, Mario, Samus etc even though I've seen them alot. But not so much in more generic characters like R.O.B who were only exciting for the first week or so after being announced. I think most people feel similar to this.

WF Trainer is mostly only interesting to traditional gamers (most of us) per her surprise factor.

 

[peeup]

^^ I'm pretty much equally as interested in every character as I am with every other character, with the exception of my main (PT). And seeing as how all characters (or all but one) are eventually equal, I'm stoked that I get to experience a total WTF moment because of Wii Fit Trainer's inclusion.

 

[Kantrip]

Her crouch animation is doing pushups, all of her attacks are yoga poses or athletic moves, her specials utilize Wii Sports equipment and other creative and hilarious fitness items. All of her animations are so unique it's hard to call this character bland.

 

[Pyra]

Her crouch animation is doing pushups, all of her attacks are yoga poses or athletic moves, her specials utilize Wii Sports equipment and other creative and hilarious fitness items. All of her animations are so unique it's hard to call this character bland.

Yeah, I don't understand what the deal is with the hate directed towards WFT. The only thing I can think of is that she's a character from a lame wii balance board feature show-off "fitness" game.
There's no issue with that, though. She looks like a fun character to fight with/against.

Maybe it's just me, meh.

 

[Neanderthal]

Sorry to disappoint but she's going to be the most balanced character in the game.

You win all of the internets.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I wonder what Kirby will look like after inhaling the Wii Fit Trainer...

 

[xpnc]

Nice, it's like he knew how unimpressed I was with Villager so he decided to put something out that is even more disappointing. My concern is what if this is NOT the joke character and is supposed to be a serious inclusion. What if next we see N64 as a playable character where you throw out cartridges and grapple with controllers.

I don't see a problem with that

wii fit girl is ******** though

 

[Pyra]

wii fit girl is ******** though

Explain, please. Enlighten me on why she's a bad pick.

 

[peeup]

Character that nobody saw coming = good character.

Why are there so few people who feel that way

 

[Pyra]

Character that nobody saw coming = good character.

Why are there so few people who feel that way

Because people think "Hey, that's not a character I wanted, Sakurai must be daft!"

 

[peeup]

But in reality, it is those people who are daft.

 

[LaniusShrike]

"Nobody at all wants this character so I added them!" is pretty daft when you're trying to appeal to an audience. It's not just that we as individuals didn't want this character, it's that Sakurai expressed that he chose it because NOBODY wanted this character.

And when I say "character", I mean the term very broadly as she is not, in fact, a character. She is not by any definition one of Nintendo's all-stars, and that is why nobody even thought to suggest her.

Again, all of this would be entirely different if she wasn't introduced on the very first day. As it is, she is officially one of the things currently defining the next Smash Bros. game, and that just comes off as a "screw you, we don't want you to be happy" to fans.

 

[Curious Villager]

I guess he was trying to pull a Roy. He was also a character that nobody requested during Melee but Sakurai thought that he would probably end up being a popular character anyway in the long run. Perhaps he felt that Wii Fit Trainer can bring the same popularity once people get to play as her and all? :/

 

[Norm]

Honestly I think it's genius, pure brilliance on Sakurai's part just mad genius. Who in their right might would even contemplate the Wii Fit Trainer to be a character no one here would hell the vast majority of Nintendo fans wouldn't. I think it is quite easily the biggest surprise character he could have pulled off lol. I tip my hat to him and I'll definitely be trying her out when I get the game and presumably unlock her lol.

 

[Pyra]

"Nobody at all wants this character so I added them!" is pretty daft when you're trying to appeal to an audience. It's not just that we as individuals didn't want this character, it's that Sakurai expressed that he chose it because NOBODY wanted this character.

I don't think it's daft. I personally think it was a good move. It's not that people didn't desire the character in the sense that people specifically wanted to bar her from the game completely, it's that nobody even bothered to want her and it was unexpected. I like the whole "force a surprise concept into the game" thing. Maybe it's just me.

And when I say "character", I mean the term very broadly as she is not, in fact, a character. She is not by any definition one of Nintendo's all-stars, and that is why nobody even thought to suggest her.

Snake nor Sonic is a Nintendo all-star. Though they were wanted beforehand...
But neither was R.O.B. or Game and Watch. R.O.B was a darned peripheral that had a game based around him and his use... as a peripheral.


Again, all of this would be entirely different if she wasn't introduced on the very first day. As it is, she is officially one of the things currently defining the next Smash Bros. game, and that just comes off as a "screw you, we don't want you to be happy" to fans.

Valid point. I like the character (a lot, actually), but it would have gone a LOT smoother if it wasn't revealed today, of all days. No worries, still very interesting and looks to be very viable in my future fights.

Replies in bold.

 

[peeup]

On that last point, as happy as I am that she's in the game, I think she would have been better as a secret unlock so she could be Smash 4's G&W or ROB.

 

[MagnesD3]

As long as we get ridley this is ok..

 

[8-peacock-8]

Still want Ridley. Need at least one serious thing in this colorful world.

 

[LaniusShrike]

Replies in, I dunno, let's go with a nice, calming sky blue to extinguish the fire of my burning rage.

"Nobody at all wants this character so I added them!" is pretty daft when you're trying to appeal to an audience. It's not just that we as individuals didn't want this character, it's that Sakurai expressed that he chose it because NOBODY wanted this character.

I don't think it's daft. I personally think it was a good move. It's not that people didn't desire the character in the sense that people specifically wanted to bar her from the game completely, it's that nobody even bothered to want her and it was unexpected. I like the whole "force a surprise concept into the game" thing. Maybe it's just me.

I mean, it certainly seems like a lot of people are angry specifically at the thought of her as a character. The Villager wasn't highly requested either but people aren't complaining nearly as much about him.
I ain't got nothing against a surprise character, but there's a time and a place. Also, I was irked by him implying that nobody wanting the character was the main draw for him picking her. RUDE, Sakurai. Rude. The character pick itself is arguable, but presenting her third? Definitely daft when the entire point of the reveal is to build up hype.
The responses like "Haha, oh Sakurai, you marvelous troll" come off a lot like Stockholm syndrome setting in. If it was anyone but Sakurai, people wouldn't be so forgiving.

And when I say "character", I mean the term very broadly as she is not, in fact, a character. She is not by any definition one of Nintendo's all-stars, and that is why nobody even thought to suggest her.

Snake nor Sonic is a Nintendo all-star. Though they were wanted beforehand...
But neither was R.O.B. or Game and Watch. R.O.B was a darned peripheral that had a game based around him and his use... as a peripheral.
I actually do think of Snake as a Nintendo all-star, but that's only because I played the NES Metal Gear game. You do agree that they're all-stars though, I'm sure. What I mainly meant is that "Wii Fit Trainer (female)" is less of a character and more of a tutorial. The flavor they went for is "anybody who does yoga." She's practically a member of the fighting polygon team. (and the other wtf characters are important parts of Nintendo history... I agree that ROB isn't a character)

Again, all of this would be entirely different if she wasn't introduced on the very first day. As it is, she is officially one of the things currently defining the next Smash Bros. game, and that just comes off as a "screw you, we don't want you to be happy" to fans.

Valid point. I like the character (a lot, actually), but it would have gone a LOT smoother if it wasn't revealed today, of all days. No worries, still very interesting and looks to be very viable in my future fights.
I mean, I suspect I'll like the character more after more characters have been revealed and I've cooled off a bit. I guess I really don't look at her and see "interesting and viable in future fights" so much as a one trick pony, where that trick is "amusing animations". I'll be curious to see her moveset in further detail, but I do strongly suspect it won't start doing anything novel.

I think talking to people who are happier about her inclusion is helping me feel better about her, though.

 

[TheTuninator]

I am seriously loving this character so much, I hope she's top tier.

Her Final Smash certainly looks top tier. Hell of an AoE on that.

Still want Ridley. Need at least one serious thing in this colorful world.

Ridley is serious?

 

[peeup]

Allow me to try to make you even happier.

I wanted the WTF/Nintendo History character to be Duck Hunt Dog. Now, that dream is most likely broken. But that's okay. That's okay because I thought Duck Hunt Dog epitomized those two characteristics, rivaled only by Sheriff. They would both have been weird choices, and also representative of Nintendo's hardware history. But Wii Fit Trainer fulfills both of those criteria, and so much better. People had support for Duck Hunt Dog. People had support for Sheriff. Nobody in their right minds had support for WFT. You'd be hard pressed to pick a more random, in-a-way less deserving character to get the Smash spotlight. And yet she also represents Nintendo's hardware in a way that people wouldn't have thought of at first. She represents Nintendo's present, rather than its past. In a game stooped in nostalgia (just look at everything about MegaMan), having a hardware character representing a piece of modern hardware? It's a breath of fresh air, it's unexpected, and, most importantly of all... it's got great moveset potential. This isn't a fighting polygon. Sure, the character is without personality... but wasn't ROB? At least WFT has plenty of material from which to make a moveset. Yoga positions aside, she could use any and all objects from Wii Fit (I think I saw her making a soccer ball as one of her attacks, but that could have just been an item.)

tl:dr, she's the very very best choice for the series' token wtf/history character, bar none.

But I do wish she wasn't revealed in a trailer. An unlockable surprise would have been nice. But eh.

 

[Bowserlick]

I wonder what Kirby will look like after inhaling the Wii Fit Trainer...

Obviously wearing a sports bra.

 

[Norm]

Obviously wearing a sports bra.

I drew that on the Miiverse community very recently lol.

 

[Pyra]

I like talking to qdMbp because he doesn't flip out over people disagreeing with him. More people should follow suit.

I play purple bold text in defense position.

"Nobody at all wants this character so I added them!" is pretty daft when you're trying to appeal to an audience. It's not just that we as individuals didn't want this character, it's that Sakurai expressed that he chose it because NOBODY wanted this character.

I don't think it's daft. I personally think it was a good move. It's not that people didn't desire the character in the sense that people specifically wanted to bar her from the game completely, it's that nobody even bothered to want her and it was unexpected. I like the whole "force a surprise concept into the game" thing. Maybe it's just me.

I mean, it certainly seems like a lot of people are angry specifically at the thought of her as a character. The Villager wasn't highly requested either but people aren't complaining nearly as much about him.
I ain't got nothing against a surprise character, but there's a time and a place. Also, I was irked by him implying that nobody wanting the character was the main draw for him picking her. RUDE, Sakurai. Rude. The character pick itself is arguable, but presenting her third? Definitely daft when the entire point of the reveal is to build up hype.
The responses like "Haha, oh Sakurai, you marvelous troll" come off a lot like Stockholm syndrome setting in. If it was anyone but Sakurai, people wouldn't be so forgiving.​

In order: Yes, people are angry at this thought. The Villager was moderately requested, I myself jumped on the Villager train ages ago; It wasn't quite as popular as Ridley or (sigh) Waluigi, though. ​

I agree about there being a time and place. I agree this was awkwardly timed. And I find that more of a "Surprise! Happy Smash Day!" gag gift than a "Screw my fans, here's a load of poo!" bag of flaming dog stuff on someone's front porch. I'm sure he meant well, and I quite frankly enjoy his decision. But yes, the timing of the presentation is totally awkward. Not going to argue there.​

The responses calling Sakurai a troll are... slightly appropriate, seeing as how that's how he's coming off to be. Honestly, as I've noted several times, I like his decision. I don't mind more than one WTF character, and this character seems to be just that. I don't think it's Stockholm syndrome. Personally, I would have applauded this decision if it came from damned Gabe Newell. Not that I have anything against good ol' Gaben.​

And when I say "character", I mean the term very broadly as she is not, in fact, a character. She is not by any definition one of Nintendo's all-stars, and that is why nobody even thought to suggest her.

Snake nor Sonic is a Nintendo all-star. Though they were wanted beforehand...
But neither was R.O.B. or Game and Watch. R.O.B was a darned peripheral that had a game based around him and his use... as a peripheral.
I actually do think of Snake as a Nintendo all-star, but that's only because I played the NES Metal Gear game. You do agree that they're all-stars though, I'm sure. What I mainly meant is that "Wii Fit Trainer (female)" is less of a character and more of a tutorial. The flavor they went for is "anybody who does yoga." She's practically a member of the fighting polygon team. (and the other wtf characters are important parts of Nintendo history... I agree that ROB isn't a character)​

I don't think any of the ones I listed are remotely "all-stars". Though that's a bit subjective for some of it...
WFT is certainly an odd choice, but it seems appropriate. Hell, if anybody thought of her before her reveal, a moveset could have easily have been made, which is a good thing. I don't think being important to Nintendo's history as a whole is really important to be a strange unexpected character. Just to be strange and unexpected. Wii Fit is played by a lot of out of shape people and it makes more sense to put her in the game than the actual balance board, and the addition of the balance board to the Wii peripherals seems like somewhat of a big deal to people... who aren't hardcore gamers. ​

Again, all of this would be entirely different if she wasn't introduced on the very first day. As it is, she is officially one of the things currently defining the next Smash Bros. game, and that just comes off as a "screw you, we don't want you to be happy" to fans.

Valid point. I like the character (a lot, actually), but it would have gone a LOT smoother if it wasn't revealed today, of all days. No worries, still very interesting and looks to be very viable in my future fights.
I mean, I suspect I'll like the character more after more characters have been revealed and I've cooled off a bit. I guess I really don't look at her and see "interesting and viable in future fights" so much as a one trick pony, where that trick is "amusing animations". I'll be curious to see her moveset in further detail, but I do strongly suspect it won't start doing anything novel.​

It's not her animations that amused me, though. It's the fact she gets really low to the ground, and her attacks look like they'd have decent power behind them. But that's just me. I'll probably use her for humiliation purposes anyway ​

 

[Bowserlick]

I was going to say that the Brawl trailer hyped me up more than the two trailers I saw today (although the game looks gorgeous) until... the third video!

Wow! Sakurai looks at the character polls, and crosses off every character on his list of every character ever made, until he is left with the only one not ever mentioned.

And her moves are so creative. I couldn't stop but laughing in awe and in fear of being sucked out of reality, when she floated away with hula hoops.

Well played Sakurai.

Megaman was expected but hit out of the park. Well designed. Animal Crossing had some neat specials and moves. But the Fitness Trainer will have people talking.

Just wow. (Plus animal crossing and wii u fitness are new games... so makes sense in that way to reveal these two as well)

 

[Robert of Normandy]

You people realize you can split up quotes right.

 

[Pyra]

I was going to say that the Brawl trailer hyped me up more than the two trailers I saw today (although the game looks gorgeous) until... the third video!

Wow! Sakurai looks at the character polls, and crosses off every character on his list of every character ever made, until he is left with the only one not ever mentioned.

And her moves are so creative. I couldn't stop but laughing in awe and in fear of being sucked out of reality, when she floated away with hula hoops.

Well played Sakurai.

Megaman was expected but hit out of the park. Well designed. Animal Crossing had some neat specials and moves. But the Fitness Trainer will have people talking.

Just wow. (Plus animal crossing and wii u fitness are new games... so makes sense in that way to reveal these two as well)

animal crossing and wii u fitness are new games

animal crossing [is a] new [game]

You people realize you can split up quotes right.

Yes, but this is a habit I carried over from other forums.
My apologies, Shipichu-senpai. I have dishonored myself.

 

[Robert of Normandy]

\Yes, but this is a habit I carried over from other forums.
My apologies, Shipichu-senpai. I have dishonored myself.

Yes you have. Now go commit seppuku

 

[LaniusShrike]

Allow me to try to make you even happier.

I wanted the WTF/Nintendo History character to be Duck Hunt Dog. Now, that dream is most likely broken. But that's okay. That's okay because I thought Duck Hunt Dog epitomized those two characteristics, rivaled only by Sheriff. They would both have been weird choices, and also representative of Nintendo's hardware history. But Wii Fit Trainer fulfills both of those criteria, and so much better. People had support for Duck Hunt Dog. People had support for Sheriff. Nobody in their right minds had support for WFT. You'd be hard pressed to pick a more random, in-a-way less deserving character to get the Smash spotlight. And yet she also represents Nintendo's hardware in a way that people wouldn't have thought of at first. She represents Nintendo's present, rather than its past. In a game stooped in nostalgia (just look at everything about MegaMan), having a hardware character representing a piece of modern hardware? It's a breath of fresh air, it's unexpected, and, most importantly of all... it's got great moveset potential. This isn't a fighting polygon. Sure, the character is without personality... but wasn't ROB? At least WFT has plenty of material from which to make a moveset. Yoga positions aside, she could use any and all objects from Wii Fit (I think I saw her making a soccer ball as one of her attacks, but that could have just been an item.)

tl:dr, she's the very very best choice for the series' token wtf/history character, bar none.

But I do wish she wasn't revealed in a trailer. An unlockable surprise would have been nice. But eh.

Hehe, alright, alright. Y'know what, it does make me feel even better about her, good job. And I think I recall her using the soccer ball as a volleyball? Perhaps she kicks it on the ground and spikes it when in the air. A move that angles upwards on the ground and downward in the air actually would be slightly different.

Interesting thought on her representing Nintendo's modern history. I mean, I like to think about Nintendo's history as being all about creating video game icons, but it certainly is true that Wii Fit is a popular Nintendo game and I suppose it is fair to represent other sides of Nintendo.

Having her as an unlockable surprise would make me laugh and laugh in happy confusion. I was already feeling mildly disappointed by the initial trailer in some ways... While I definitely would prefer seeing a character that seems like a genuine "character", a lot of my problem with her is just the way she was presented. Bad organization, Sakurai. Shame, shame.

Edit: For the record, it feels kind of nice to actually be persuaded by people on the internet when the standard is just yelling at each other until someone leaves. Props for that, good job.

 

[Pyra]

I hope she's unlocked through some physical method like some event involving balancing a stage element or something.

I doubt she'll be in the 3DS one though, so I wonder who'll take her handheld slot!

 

[peeup]

I doubt she'll be in the 3DS one though, so I wonder who'll take her handheld slot!

Someone said there are no character exclusives, everybody will be on both platforms. Stages will be a different story.

 

[Pyra]

Someone said there are no character exclusives, everybody will be on both platforms. Stages will be a different story.

Ah, I was just assuming based on the fact Mr. Villager and WFT didn't have 3DS pictures at all. Where did you see that?

 

[CalumG]

After the initial phase of "wtf is this i don't even", I've realized that I can actually respect the inclusion of the Wii Fit Trainer because not only does she actually look like a solid playable character, she's a character from a new franchise. If nothing else the appearance of three different newcomers from three different franchises shows a solid direction for Smash 4 - that they've making an active effort to represent a wider array of franchises in Smash 4, since there's all but a few key characters left to add to the existing franchises in Smash.

That being said, I feel the reveal of the Wii Fit Trainer now was perhaps a bit of a bad choice. From now until years after the release of Smash 4 people will point to Wii Fit Trainer as their scapegoat to get mad at for their dream characters lack of inclusion. Imagine, hypothetically, if they make a great roster of awesome characters and plenty of great newcomers but no Ridley (just as a popular character example) - you just know the Ridley supporters would be up in arms at Wii Fit Trainer getting a spot on the roster over him, even though the developers probably had a perfectly logical reason for not including said character.

 

[Bowserlick]

Sakurai, himself, said that the roster will be the same on both. Some stages will be exclusives (Stages from Wii U and Wii games on the Wii U and areas from 3DS games as 3DS stages).