Why Ness should be out and Lucas should replace him.

[vesperview]

Dogs and Foxes are in the family or phylum.

I get your point, but still Fox's rival would be Wolf and here's to hoping he doesn't make it.

 

[Big-Cat]

I get your point, but still Fox's rival would be Wolf and here's to hoping he doesn't make it.

And here's to hoping he'll make it.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Is impossible to include Poo without Ness, if Ness is not in Brawl, forget about Paula, Jeff or Poo and start considering Kumatora, Duster and Claus.



Ness and Ninten are almost the same character, I think that Ness represents both characters in Smash, you can't deny the resemblance, just Ninten is a little taller.

Resemlence means nothing...Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr look almost identical but they aren't the same character are they?

 

[Big-Cat]

Resemlence means nothing...Baby Bowser and Bowser Jr look almost identical but they aren't the same character are they?

Actually, yes.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Actually, yes.

How the hell are they the same character...Baby Bowser is Bowser as a Baby and Bowser Jr is Bowser's son?

 

[max32090]

does lucas even have a bat?

 

[Big-Cat]

How the hell are they the same character...Baby Bowser is Bowser as a Baby and Bowser Jr is Bowser's son?

I'm sorry, I read it as just Bowser.

 

[vesperview]

does lucas even have a bat?

He uses sticks, yoyos and bats.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I was watching the trailer today. And it looked like to me that Lucas had a completely different moveset to Ness..

Oh Yeah! Oh Yeah!

Ness For Brawl! Ness For Brawl!

*Moonwalks out of thread*

 

[EPX2]

So I guess I should take the lack of a response from Oldskool as an indication that (s)he hadn't the slightest clue what (s)he was talking about...

 

[Super Smash Master]

I was watching the trailer today. And it looked like to me that Lucas had a completely different moveset to Ness..

Oh Yeah! Oh Yeah!

Ness For Brawl! Ness For Brawl!

*Moonwalks out of thread*

They probably replaced his B, because it sucked. PK Love > PK Flash

 

[prettymanfairy]

They probably replaced his B, because it sucked. PK Love > PK Flash

His Neutral B sucked, which was PK Flash. His UP B was PK Thunder, and that was awesome. Especially when you hit yourself to charge at a person...I mastered that in Melee.

 

[blayde_axel]

Delay=Extra Time=Ness Confirmed.

Pure Math.

 

[Big-Cat]

Delay=Extra Time=Ness Confirmed.

Pure Math.

How so? Ness may be an alt. Come to think of it, they can use this time to make actual alt. costumes like Yoshi-Toshi for Kumatora and Afro Duster for Duster. Maybe Ninten could finally be in.

 

[blayde_axel]

I wasn't serious. lol.

But still, we've seen from one clip that Lcuas has a different move than Ness. So, if they make him just an alt., then that would mean he'd have that different move. And Ness doesn't use that move! (Referring to that hexagon move... probably an uptilt.)

Well, this is going from his Melee moveset. We all know they could change.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Ness and Ninten are almost the same character

So is Lucas and Ness, so what's your point?

 

[brawlpro]

Lol guys look at my sig!

 

[vesperview]

So is Lucas and Ness, so what's your point?

I don't recall Lucas wearing a cap and having black hair, stop saying that because they have the same face, they're the same ****ing character, anyone who saw the new vid can tell Lucas's moveset is clearly different from Ness.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

I don't recall Lucas wearing a cap and having black hair,

I don't recall Link from OoT having a shield with a cross on it either but the Link in the first two games definitely did.

stop saying that because they have the same face, they're the same ****ing character,

This is why I suggest people to read my thread. Prime example of an idiot who hasn't.

anyone who saw the new vid can tell Lucas's moveset is clearly different from Ness.

Uh, not really. Lucas has been shown to have both Ness' Forward+A in the Air and Back+A in the Air, in an improved manner. And his PSI attack shown appears to be an improved version of Ness' standard B in Melee, just with the hexagon-like design from Mother 3.

 

[Big-Cat]

I don't recall Lucas wearing a cap and having black hair, stop saying that because they have the same face, they're the same ****ing character, anyone who saw the new vid can tell Lucas's moveset is clearly different from Ness.

Melee wise, yes. MOTHER series wise, I don't know.

 

[vesperview]

I don't recall Link from OoT having a shield with a cross on it either but the Link in the first two games definitely did.

This is why I suggest people to read my thread. Prime example of an idiot who hasn't.

Uh, not really. Lucas has been shown to have both Ness' Forward+A in the Air and Back+A in the Air, in an improved manner. And his PSI attack shown appears to be an improved version of Ness' standard B in Melee, just with the hexagon-like design from Mother 3.

Whatever.....

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Whatever... there you go again with your Link theory ****...

That's because, you know, it's right.

these boards were so tranquil without your annoying postings,

and that's no Ness's forward A so **** you! Stick this thread up your ***.

No one seems to agree with you, I'm afraid, even though it's obviously exactly like Ness' forward+A in the Air except Lucas uses one hand. Try making sense next time, but I'll give you points for trying your hardest.

 

[prettymanfairy]

I think Ness and Lucas have different moves. In the movie you clearly see him use PK Love. But I still think he will replace Ness.

Off-topic: Luke, why were you banned?

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

I think Ness and Lucas have different moves. In the movie you clearly see him use PK Love. But I still think he will replace Ness.

Now, I wouldn't say that, PK Love is more of a Final Smash if anything, in all honesty (huge explosion of PSI energy). It's probably just PK Flash, Mother 3 style.

Off-topic: Luke, why were you banned?

For calling xianfeng a ***got, that's why.

 

[prettymanfairy]

Now, I wouldn't say that, PK Love is more of a Final Smash if anything, in all honesty (huge explosion of PSI energy). It's probably just PK Flash, Mother 3 style.

For calling xianfeng a ***got, that's why.

Gasp. I used to support you and your ideas, but anyone that participates in name calling over a video game isn't worth my time.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Gasp. I used to support you and your ideas, but anyone that participates in name calling over a video game isn't worth my time.

Now it wasn't necessarily because of that. It was because he was acting like he's completely right even though I provided evidence why he was wrong, and I said, "And xianfeng is spreading his ***gotry again." in a couple of threads. And he whined about it, claiming he was offended because he was a homosexual.

Which is funny, because in his Wolf thread, you can clearly see in the pic he mad that was anti-Andross playable (or some sh-t) having a homophobic comment in it.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

It did look more like PK Love than PK Flash. In Mother 3, PK Flash is many green circles, and the blue hexagons do fit PK Love... kinda.

But I'm still not sure of what it is.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Luke Groundwalker is back???






Ness for Brawl!

 

[prettymanfairy]

Still, calling anyone that is stupid. Let him call you names. It makes him look foolish. But you should never stoop to thier level. Also, xianfeg, if you aren't really a homosexual, I hope you get warned.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

It did look more like PK Love than PK Flash. In Mother 3, PK Flash is many green circles, and the blue hexagons do fit PK Love... kinda.

But I'm still not sure of what it is.

Look at the move in the recent trailer again, it isn't blue at all, it's more yellowish.

I can agree it's hard to tell, though. Could be PK Thunder, PK Flash, PK Love, etc. The last one I doubt because PK Love is more of an explosion of PSI power, not something you can send into the air and little PSI dots do sh-t.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Still, calling anyone that is stupid. Let him call you names. It makes him look foolish. But you should never stoop to thier level. Also, xianfeg, if you aren't really a homosexual, I hope you get warned.

I wouldn't trust Luke to much, just check his previous posts, it's clear to see why he got banned.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

I wouldn't trust Luke to much, just check his previous posts, it's clear to see why he got banned.

Or, you know, you just have a bias towards me because you're a prick?

And this is what xianfeng posted for reference:

Everyone: WHAT?!! I THOUGHT HE WAS GAY AND HE'S MAKING FUN OF GAY PEOPLE?!!​

Edit: For reference, the purple cape and its comment is the joke towards gay people, if you're too dull to not see it.

 

[prettymanfairy]

So. He's making fun of a fictional character, not using a slur. It's like making fun of the Wii comercial saying that the asians are saying "Wee would rike to pray" or calling them a certain slur like...Well I won't say it. F**** is a nasty word. Don't use it.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

It doesn't matter. The point is, he obviously lied about his "homosexuality" as shown with him making fun of the fact that purple is quite an iconic color for homosexuals and somehow it questions Andross' sexuality.

I've stated many times that I'm not homophobic on this forum (in the Tingle thread, but I really wasn't suspected to be in there, I was explaining flawed reasoning why most people hate Tingle because of his homosexual-like attitude). And obviously I've never seriously said anything homophobic about things other than saying "***got," which wasn't even used in a homophobic context at all.

And, you know, ***got isn't meant to be homophobic at all, especially in most British cultures. I use it in that manner, just as millions of other normal people. It's just as much as calling someone an *******, period.

But really, let's stop with this talk and get back on topic. This isn't a discussion about why I got banned.

 

[PrettyGoodYear]

Look at the move in the recent trailer again, it isn't blue at all, it's more yellowish.

I can agree it's hard to tell, though. Could be PK Thunder, PK Flash, PK Love, etc. The last one I doubt because PK Love is more of an explosion of PSI power, not something you can send into the air and little PSI dots do sh-t.

I wouldn't bet on Thunder at all. Freeze maybe... (more likely, but it doesn't look like PK Freeze either... but it looks closer to it than Thunder) but not Thunder. We'll know in due time.

I'm gonna boot up Mother 3 tomorrow to check the animations and compare them.

It doesn't matter. The point is, he obviously lied about his "homosexuality" as shown with him making fun of the fact that purple is quite an iconic color for homosexuals and somehow it questions Andross' sexuality.

It's actually, umm... the color of bisexuals.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Or, you know, you just have a bias towards me because you're a prick?

Well duh, of course I have a bias towards you.

You're a snide, vulgar, manipulative, racist, extremely rude person who always thinks he's right. Just looking at your previous posts shows why you were banned.

You always try to shift the blame to someone else and make it seem like they're doing something wrong when they protest against you. You'll say or do something extremely insulting then tell everyone to ignore it because it's only insulting if you are insulted by it. You constantly pick on those who disagree with you, and insult them to high heavens. Then get away seemingly scott free.

I do not insult you like you do to me, you're just looking for some sort of reaction. I just tell the truth.

And look at you trying to turn us all against Xianfeng. You just scrape the bottom of the barrel looking for excuses. Shall I go dig up some quote by you? I'm pretty sure I could find some really controversial stuff there.

I do not like you. I'm just making sure that everyone knows what kind of a person you are.

 

[Johnknight1]

Luke Groundwalker is back???






Ness for Brawl!

Ya, and he supports Ness. (I think) Therefore, he's cool (for now). Actually, I'm lying again. (lol) You still annoy me Luke, with your annoying and hateful methods.

And NESS FOR BRAWL! This thread fails, and the creator of it sucks. Ness pwns all ,so just admit it.

And anyone hate on Ness, and i'll f***ing make a mockery of you, to where you cry to your moma. That isn't a threat, it's a promise.

Reasons Ness is SUPERIOR TO LUCAS:

1.We'll never get Mother 3 (or 1) EVER! We're going to only be stuck with Mother 2/EarthBound forever and ever.

2.We'll never play Lucas' game. Why should we give a d*** about him=???

3.Lucas is a original character. I can confirm this basically.

4.Ness is the original wtf? and original character: Doubting this is dumb.

5.EarthBound fans will boycott Brawl if Ness isn't in the game: Ya, they'll boycott it bigger then DMC4, and I'd be happy to help. Febuary 10th gives them enough god d*** time, and if they cut him with all that time, I'm going to be f**ing p***ed. Sakurai should consider himself thankful for p***ing off another fan.

6.EarthBound fans have been kneed in the balls enough. Give them something to smile about. Reggie says he doesn't give a s*** about them, despite them send 100,000's of letters, emails, and phone calls asking for Mother 3 and 1 to go worldwide.

7.Sakurai needs to stop his suckage. He sucks right now. Giving Japan Brawl first is dumb. Tell me wat finiacial advantage it gives the Brawl development team.

8.EB fans need love. Sakurai has always cuddled them like the good parent in a bad relationship, while Reggie treats them like s***, focusing all his god g*** attention on non-gamers. He told them Mother 3 was going worldwide, justifying Ness' replacement. That was taken by Reggie (again), so there is no justification of this.

9.The West (every non-Asian country that gets smash) is 95% of the sales. Considering Sakurai favors some island of people who will only make up 400,000 of the sales over potentially 10 million worldwide is beyond me. Nintendo still has their d*** release date policies all messed up.

10.He's original. Nothing beats originality.

11.Lucas is a poser who wets his pants at the sight of Ness.

12.Lucas is a wanna-be Ness. He's cool, just not Ness cool. Ness is the cult classic character, Lucas is the rising star. Ness is MORE POPULAR! Therefore, I conclude both characters are playable.

13.Lucas wasn't playable in thedemos. And I think I know why.

a. He is a original character.
b. That would semi-confirm Ness, and Sakurai wants to have us by the balls.
c. Because Sakurai knows Ness needs to be in the game. That is a NEED

14. Because I say so.

15.Becaue 99% of smashers want Ness back. If Sakurai wants to kick him out, he might as well call Brawl "Super Smash Bros. Minority over the Majority".

[nukes thread, and it dies; in the meantime, Ness is confirmed]

 

[vesperview]

This thread is going full speed in the wrong direction, and is so cowardly to talk about xianfeng behind his back, why don't you PM him about it and shut up?

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

It's actually, umm... the color of bisexuals.

No, it's the color of gay pride, my best friend is homosexual and into this, plus it's obvious knowledge.

This thread is going full speed in the wrong direction, and is so cowardly to talk about xianfeng behind his back, why don't you PM him about it and shut up?

I agree with you, I want this to stop, this is just stupid.

But I'm not trying to talk behind his back, he asked why I was banned, and that was literally because I called xianfeng a ***got (even a mod PMed me saying that's why I was banned), and made a crack about something hypocritical. I don't intend to talk bad about him behind his back, just stating the facts.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

You just did everything that I said you would in my post.

Thanks.