Ninjaneos
Smash Cadet
melee is just awesome because of the variety of characters and stages and also competitive for 4 pepople
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Why Melee is the perfect "kind" of fighting game
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tubes
Smash Ace
This. I freaking love the way combos work in Melee. Everything's so free-form while still requiring a considerable amount of tech-skill. And you can basically keep comboing forever as long as you can keep reading your opponent, you don't run out of space, and your opponents damage doesn't get too high. which brings me to another thing I like about melee. There's rarely a moment where you can't do anything to improve your situation, even when stuck in a combo. I also like how so much of melee's combo game takes place in the air. Those jab combos in SF4 ain't got **** on death-juggles and AERIAL RAVES! I'd like to see more games based on ring-outs like melee and with a combo system similar to melee. Or play them if they exist. Would be cool as **** to someday see the platform-style fighter as another fighting sub-genre like 3d and 2d fighters are.
and @Dogy: yea looking back I guess I really don't know enough about Gears to be saying **** like that. If I've said anything equally stupid in the above paragraph feel free to correct me again.
KosukeKGA
Smash Champion
SF in general takes a lot more considerable amount of execution, spacing, mindgames etc. than Melee. It's more than just "jab combos" tubes. >_>
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
That statement is flawed so no.
These things aren't quantitative...
These things aren't quantitative...
NES n00b
Smash Master
How does one game take more "spacing" and "mindgames," than another game unless there is no spacing or mindgames to begin with in the other game. This is boggling my mind.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
You can't really compare the two. They are totally two different games. All you can do is conclude that they are both indeed fighting games, and that both do in fact require mindgames. Their mindgames/spacing are different obviously, but you can't accurately measure which game requires more. Not to sound bias, but I would consider melee more complicated simply because their is an off stage element to it.
rehab
Smash Journeyman
I thought that 3S wasn't so much a bad game as it is packed with campy Chun Li's.
And if you want powerful juggles in SF4, you can play Balrog.
And if you want powerful juggles in SF4, you can play Balrog.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
3S is mad good.
4 is kinda lame tho.
4 is kinda lame tho.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Uh... I hope you're kidding. You've got it the other way around silly. Seeing as 3S is in my eyes the only SF that requires much tech skill... parrying is 2good. 2T is spam, 4 is just... terrible.
o_O This is the Melee discussion though so I'll just say we all have our opinions. ^_^ Back to Melee.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
Yeah I was wondering the same exact thing, I really don't know what this kid is thinking. Kinda dumb...
Drakar
Smash Cadet
yeah i have also noticed melee is one of the only games of its genre that uses assistant items and stages that are not just flat
Can you name a game that's in the same genre as Melee? Or better yet, a game that even plays like Melee?
Miggz
Pancake Sandwiches
Yeah melee is simply one of a kind.
Never have I put so much time in a game before.
I thought I played Final Fantasy religiously.
Never have I put so much time in a game before.
I thought I played Final Fantasy religiously.
masterspeaks
Smash Apprentice
Melee is an insanely fun teams game. I cannot think of another game I would rather play with 3 other people. It is easy to pick up and has nearly unlimited depth to delve into.
NES n00b
Smash Master
SFA3 has its vism combos that are technical and some things in ST take a good amount of tech skill like low frame leniency links, certain command inputs, and charge partitioning with Balrog for some of his his blockstrings, etc. The only thing I know of SF4 that is technical about it is some of the hard links that are frame specific, but I honestly don't know much about it so no comment.
Samurai Showdown had those orbs. Those were pretty cool. >_>
Not to be a ***, but parrying is the exact reason I hate the game.
No beef though I just hate 3S with a passion.
rehab
Smash Journeyman
If it's a topic relating Melee to other fighters, why not talk about them? Melee discussion has enough "<3<3<3<3<3 the game this board is based on" threads.
Super Turbo is zoning, not spam. It's a fine game, and if you want to measure it by tech skill, which is a little silly, it has its share of single-digit frame reversals and link combos (reversals being actually important), and becoming consistent with charge characters isn't a week one accomplishment. Offense vs Defense is relatively balanced, and nobody is completely safe from a comeback. A massive pressure/damage character like Balrog can get in on a defensive rapist like Dhalsim, get him down to a sliver of health, get thrown out of Dhalsim's "stop ****** me please" range, get fireball pressured and kept out down to his last bit of health, and still get through all of it and win the round. Every character in the game is scary, almost all the time. (except cammy)
Despite that ST's focus is obviously far removed from Melee's, I think they share some good points.
Super Turbo is zoning, not spam. It's a fine game, and if you want to measure it by tech skill, which is a little silly, it has its share of single-digit frame reversals and link combos (reversals being actually important), and becoming consistent with charge characters isn't a week one accomplishment. Offense vs Defense is relatively balanced, and nobody is completely safe from a comeback. A massive pressure/damage character like Balrog can get in on a defensive rapist like Dhalsim, get him down to a sliver of health, get thrown out of Dhalsim's "stop ****** me please" range, get fireball pressured and kept out down to his last bit of health, and still get through all of it and win the round. Every character in the game is scary, almost all the time. (except cammy)
Despite that ST's focus is obviously far removed from Melee's, I think they share some good points.
NES n00b
Smash Master
I like this guy.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
It's cool. ^_^ Like I said, opinions.
True true, but we don't want this thread to be Nazi'd by mods either. ^_^
But yeah, good points there.
lol no.
brawl has more characters and stages.
ur post is invalid.
melee is just competitive due to the way the mechanics are.
the hitstun...wavedashing...L-canceling....its just so much funner.
MoblinMan
Smash Apprentice
the number of tourney viable characters and stages are about equal or better, though.
I think that's what he was trying to say.
I think that's what he was trying to say.