Why is online in this game so bad?

Grimel

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Played Quickplay again today after quite some time because there were barely any areanas online. Maybe people in Europe don't play on sunday. Lol. First couple of matches were extremely laggy. Lost 10k GSP but kept playing and gained them back but it took quite some time because I only gain 1k GSP or less for a win. Anyways, was reminded again today why I pretty much stopped playing Quickplay and decided to stick to arenas.
 
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TheDuke54

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I don't get lag too much. Here or there, but I have noticed that quickplay has regressed back to the way it was before with getting what you asked for. Or at least for me. Doesn't matter who I pick or how high or low their gsp is. I've been getting a lot of everything except for free for all, stock, no items. That's all I'm asking for, that should be easy to accommodate.

So before I was getting stock, all items on high (mostly pokeballs or assists), smash meter, smash ball (an assortment of these) and one on one way too often. Dude I didn't even ask for that. It's even worst when it's 1 on 1 and all the above on. Now I keep getting timed matches at 2:30 without stock with all the above on. Or sometimes no items. But there's no skill in this because all the fighters just keep rushing in without strategy cause they know they'll keep on fighting until the timer runs out anyway. Especially annoying when it's team battle doing this.

I don't know about any of you, but I keep getting timed and no stock at an alarming rate now. So yeah quickplay somehow got worst when Nintendo said they patched it to be better. Also I don't know if this 2:30 thing is Smash4 nostalgia for some of the people picking it or what.
 

J.I.L

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I don't get lag too much. Here or there, but I have noticed that quickplay has regressed back to the way it was before with getting what you asked for. Or at least for me. Doesn't matter who I pick or how high or low their gsp is. I've been getting a lot of everything except for free for all, stock, no items. That's all I'm asking for, that should be easy to accommodate.

So before I was getting stock, all items on high (mostly pokeballs or assists), smash meter, smash ball (an assortment of these) and one on one way too often. Dude I didn't even ask for that. It's even worst when it's 1 on 1 and all the above on. Now I keep getting timed matches at 2:30 without stock with all the above on. Or sometimes no items. But there's no skill in this because all the fighters just keep rushing in without strategy cause they know they'll keep on fighting until the timer runs out anyway. Especially annoying when it's team battle doing this.

I don't know about any of you, but I keep getting timed and no stock at an alarming rate now. So yeah quickplay somehow got worst when Nintendo said they patched it to be better. Also I don't know if this 2:30 thing is Smash4 nostalgia for some of the people picking it or what.
I’m done with quickplay, been pretty much done with it for the past few days now.

Also when select FFA, or team battle. It just throws you into a room with people who have FFa or team battle no matter what other rulesets they have because they want you to get a match as quick as possible. And if the game doesn’t give you enough players in allocated time, it’ll just give you a FFA of 3 or 2 people on whoever ruleset it lands on. So if you pick team battle with a certain rule set, and if the gane lands on your ruleset but you don’t have enough players for team battle. The game will start anyway and give you your ruleset except for the team battle since there wasn’t enough players. So you want 3 stock 5 min with no items of FD stage with team battle.... since there’s only 3 players and your ruleset was randomly selected. The game will give you that ruleset but not the team battle since it didn’t bother to wait for more players to come.

Now remember I told you about how it throws people with team battle and FFA rulesets into the same room. Imagine after on your own ruleset you got a 1v1 or 3 ffa... a 4th person comes and now it lands on their rulesets but their rulesets is a FFA so you as a person who wants Team battle now has to play another FFA ( mind you you lose gsp if you lose... and you can’t quit). And since the ruleset selection is random... you may strike out and not get your ruleset for 5 games in a row. You have to bank on the luck of the draw of someone else having a ruleset similar to yours. Because Nintendo won’t match make for you. They only match make with someone who wants a TB or FFA... that’s it. And throw you all in the same room, they will.

And did I forget to mention how bad it is in elite smash if you want a FFA or team battle. Story short, there’s a 5% chance (not kidding) you’ll get 4 player ffa or team battle.



It’s. Literally stupid. This online was programmed by monkeys who were smoking bananas when coming up with the online. Utterly inept people who be fired and never touch a online programming project, game. Or it was centralized by Sakurai who didn’t listen to anyone but himself when making this online system and could have given a dam about his own online system. Or the online system and game was rushed so it could get realsed in stores so they could maximize profits.

It’s really disgraceful. And the things I would do to these people who made this online system, and who gave it the OK... if I said it I would probably get banned from this forum. If I had like the absolute power, I would do more then just “fire” these people. As a matter of fact, throw the commite or people who programmed falco... they’d also expirence my punishment. Falco is so underdeveloped in this game. Some of his move don’t even connect, looking as if the designers and programmer didn’t even finish the job with his character build.
But yeah, they rushed a game and it’s online sector and charge 20 bucks for it with no public statement of apology and vow to be better, just because you over marketed the game and conned people into buying it?
Nah. There needs to be harsh consequences which would entail much MUCH more then people just getting “fired”.

But... sadly I can’t do anything and these people are cashing in bank and laughing while a lot of their customers are displeased with the service. But throw your loyalist some bones by tweaking some of the gameplay to make the game look cooler and more “competitive gameplay” and give fan service by adding fan favorites to the roster and people will continue to adore you and ignore all glaring problems with the game or worse yet just defend it.
Tch...Smash Ultimate.... a truly disappointing game.
 

Coolboy

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it's ironic that i want to play smash..but thinking about the frustration again makes me not wanna play..

this game really can give me a headache and i never had that before with games and the worst of all this game even makes me throw my controller sometimes with how much it can frustrate me.. the reason i do not play to much or need long breaks..is probably because smash can give me a burn out, i mean it's not normal a game gives you a headache right? x.x
 
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I think I’m just going to stop playing the game for awhile.

Been trialing the one week trial and I’m just not good at the game.

I’m trying to play properly and I keep getting PK Fire spammed and PK Freezed until I lose.

Im already annoyed that I’m bad at the game. A continuous losing streak with spam losses is just making me not want to play anymore. I think I’ll stop for now and just settle for watching the competitive scene only.
 

J.I.L

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I think I’m just going to stop playing the game for awhile.

Been trialing the one week trial and I’m just not good at the game.

I’m trying to play properly and I keep getting PK Fire spammed and PK Freezed until I lose.

Im already annoyed that I’m bad at the game. A continuous losing streak with spam losses is just making me not want to play anymore. I think I’ll stop for now and just settle for watching the competitive scene only.
Hmph, told you.... should have taken my advice. Not McSquirrtle's. My advice...was.... to either set up BA so you can get practice against good players on this forum, like myself, or post replays so we can review and give specfic feedback. But I dont blame your exhaustment, quickplay is bad.

Coolboy Coolboy I advise play Battle areans. much more laxed and you get constient ruelsets. qucikplay is garbage and I don't take it seriously anymore. I just go there sometimes now to just troll.
4 min, 2 stock, FD, 300 stamnia.
usually results in sudden death where I just either shoot laser and kill them with 1 laser (sudden death is 1 HP), bower junior bots or PK spam. And I sit there and laugh. loool. I already know how good I am at the game, so I don't take gsp seriously anymore which allows me to actaully play free on these troll ruslets.
 
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Hmph, told you.... should have taken my advice. Not McSquirrtle's. My advice...was.... to either set up BA so you can get practice against good players on this forum, like myself, or post replays so we can review and give specfic feedback. But I dont blame your exhaustment, quickplay is bad.

Coolboy Coolboy I advise play Battle areans. much more laxed and you get constient ruelsets. qucikplay is garbage and I don't take it seriously anymore. I just go there sometimes now to just troll.
4 min, 2 stock, FD, 300 stamnia.
usually results in sudden death where I just either shoot laser and kill them with 1 laser (sudden death is 1 HP), bower junior bots or PK spam. And I sit there and laugh. loool. I already know how good I am at the game, so I don't take gsp seriously anymore which allows me to actaully play free on these troll ruslets.
I’ll do BA when I’ll come back. Gonna take a break for now but I’ll still follow the game and this forum.

To be more specific, I don’t feel frustration when I play as Joker, it’s more Bayonetta tbh.

I’ve always loved her character but good grief they made her extremely frustrating to play in this game.

It’s annoying when she keeps losing exchanges because her frame data is so bad, and her lag and startup issues on top of that don’t help. I’m just thinking why bother when it comes to her and just stick with Joker from now on.
 

TheDuke54

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I go to quickplay because at least I can get some games in at a reasonable time instead of waiting on BA and then getting kicked. Happens way too often. I just got an hour and 30 min ban though because Nintendo's connection choked with a communication error before the game even started. I really don't care either way, both are equally bad in their own ways. I'll just play against cpu for the time being.

I also saved some replays of my latest fights. One where it was free for all, but two players just kept to the edge of the stage and spammed and did nothing else because of fear of losing gsp and or trying to cheese for gsp and the other clip was because someone ragequit after they lost all their stock and so this Yoshi decided to stock himself because (why bother I can't get gsp now) and then this Kirby followed suit. Even when something happened where gsp wouldn't be distributed, I still fought like I normally would.

I've had that happen a few times but I never bothered to save replays. I'm going to upload those to my YT channel. I really would like to know how Nintendo's terrible management of Smash Ult's online hasn't gotten more traction. It's almost nonexistent except for this forum/thread and the few isolated pockets of discord channels. It's almost like Nintendo is trying it's best to hide the bad publicity and removing any bad reviews regarding online from places like Amazon and the such.
 
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