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I agree, it's a damn shame growing up with NES/SNES/N64 Nintendo and just seeing them progressively still make stupid decisions that you would think anyone with common sense wouldn't screw up on. I appreciate Nintendo for making so many memories and games in my life, but the online in Ultimate is a perfect example of how they are and always will be the laughing stock of video game companies.
You shouldn’t be tying your identity so much to a company that this embarrasses you.
Well I'm not that much of a nintendo fan compared to when I was younger but i still like them.
Maybe this is true, but most of what is trash about online are design decisions that have nothing to do with hardware. The ranking system is trash, rule sets are trash, and its lack of a proper lag filter is trash. None of those require hardware, and while I definitely think that the hardware could be improved, especially by making a god damn ethernet connection standard on the dock, I would be totally fine if they just fixed the blatantly stupid software design decisions that make the experience miserable.
I agree, but two things: A. I wasn't trolling, my gsp for my players are ripe and ready to be showcased. B. You got to chill on smash 4 flaming. smash 4 was a good game.
Yes, they were trying to make a child friendly safe space where everybody can just have FUN! What they actually made is a toxic hell hole, but it was a nice try. Also, i played a massive amount of smash 4, but i still think it is the rock bottom of the series. Its only edge on the other games is having for glory, but its offline was just the worst by far. Just my opinion on it.
Well Smash 4 and Brawl were very toxic too, so I guess they just can't win.
You know, you can make a Battle Arena if FD or BF is that important to you. Quickplay should not be where you go if you want it completely your way.
I totally disagree. Their ranked mode shouldn't be a clown fest. I don't accept the "if you don't like it, go somewhere else argument". Thats horse ****. We all know QP is an embarrassing joke, and I don't blame anybody for complaining about it. Battle arena's have their place, but they aren't ranked, and this game should have a game mode with a legitimate ladder + leader board with competitive rule sets. If nintendo was an even remotely good dev, they would incorporate the competitive stage set into it, but I won't even ask for that since you know it will be mishandled.
I’m not saying that Quickplay is perfect or even good, I’m saying that you can have the matches you want to have with Battle Arenas. Personally, I don’t care about being ranked or not, so that’s not a bother for me, but I can understand where you are coming from.
I see what you’re saying, but even if they were trying to expand smash 4 by making rulesets, there are far better ways of implementing that then the garbage they did. First of all, modes such as ffa, TB and 1v1 shouldn’t be preferred but guaranteed modes. Then in those modes, you can select your preferred rules. And in those modes, you’re guaranteed to get a 1v1, team battle or ffa. That’s one where they dropped the ball.
J.I.L
touched on this but battle arenas are just as obnoxious as quickplay, only in different ways. Like quickplay, there is a small percentage of time where it works amazingly well, BUT most of the time it's literally wasting your time. When I've tried hosting my own arena nobody joined. Or like 1 or 2 people would drop in then leave before we could start a team battle (which is what I want to play). Even if you have the patience to wait a long time, the game will force you to close your arena after 10-15 minutes of no one joining. Trying to play in other arenas means a lot of looking and waiting followed by suddenly "the arena has been shut down" right before you get to play or after only a match or two and now it's back to more looking and waiting. And even then I don't always find the ruleset I'd prefer, or if the match was laggy then I'll probably have to start over. Like I don't have time for that. I just want to jump in and play the d*** game, like I can do with any other game or with Smash 4.
100% pure facts.A couple people keep saying "go play battle arenas, they're the perfect solution for all your concerns" but I get the feeling those people haven't actually tried themselves (in particular to do anything other than 1v1, which I've said before: if you're only interested in 1v1 then no sh** you're going to have an easier time finding the type of matches you want).
Maybe you are playing at weird times of the day. In my region (East Coast), I find games (or get a full room for any mode) easily starting from the mid afternoon until very early in the morning. Between early morning and early afternoon, there aren’t a lot of people online. This might be your issue.
You obviously never played 4 or Brawl if you believe this statement.
Not Brawl no, Smash 4 extensively. At least half the connections were decent in it, as opposed to the 3% in Ultimate.
I played the heck out of 4 too, but the lack of options outside of playing friends was felt greatly. The only thing it did better than Ultimate was allow for switching between matches without disconnecting from your opponents (which can be mitigated by keeping the max room size in a BA down to the amount needed to play). I did not enjoy Omega form stages only all day everyday and connecting with opponents that didn’t lag was probably worse (many times I couldn’t even connect in the first place because the consoles couldn’t communicate with each other). Smash 4 was much better than Brawl online, but I’d take Ultimate every day of the year over 4 because I can at least get the matches I want through BA (and really, I can do the same in QP — this hasn’t been an issue for me since the launch month).
I'll just quote this from another thread
Battle arenas are also only one per console and don't allow CPU's
This could be the case if QP was the ONLY online mode, but this isn’t true. Smash 4 is still inferior in content and choices compared to Ultimate.
I have about 200 hours online and I’d say about 1/4 matches have some form of lag. Of that, about 2/3 of the lag is unplayable (frequent stops, slideshow-style lagging, or severe input lag). It’s not perfect or barely noticeable, but not as bad as some make it out to be. I certainly suffered worse lag in the previous 2 smash games online.
Still waiting on the DM of a friend code for the BA 1v1.
My bowser Jr is at about 4.82 million, while my falco was as high as 4.8 mil. My ness was at 4.79 million, don't try me. Unless you want to be my first victim that'll i'll showcase (you can do the posting)) to anyone else who challenges me in the future.
Ok i'll go straight to the point, can you and the people involved just stop trash talking each other in front of everyone in this thread? I'm sure you're all great at the game, but why do you keep trying to cry about who's the best? And J.I.L., why are you being so condescending? Just move on with it, guys
lool, it's gets me excitied. When i'm excitied, i'm more focused and humble...that's when I play at my best. And how the heck am I being condencending? And that's what i'm trying to do, Master Heavy. Once he says he's ready, we will carry forth further dialouge in the private chambers of this forum. And hopefully he post our battles.
Exactly my thought
Same for me in fact. When I call a friend over and other people we know are online, it would be really cool to setup an arena and have 2 locals vs 2 online.
They just need to make public arenas and then have standard rulesets for each mode.
HeavyMaster
at ease. It's just largely playful but competitive jeature. And who knows what the future will entail. Maybe I get wrecked so hard by this guy, I get embarrassed and rarley comment on this furom anymore (I know a few people would like that outcome....LOOOOOOOL). Maybe I destory him and show credence to how good I am...maybe even encouraging more challengers at my dorrstep. Maybe we go even and go out with respect for each other....maybe we just never fight. Idk..... i'm just WAITING for this guy to respond so I don't have to carry on about private matters like this in front of everyone.
I agree 100%. It irritates me that I see that one of my friend is on smash, but there is no way for me to message them on switch. I have to text them (Facebook, phone, w/e) to see if they want to play, but there's a high chance they won't see it until if they have to go. Just a simple private message option (like XBox One) would be really nice.
Yeah switch is very dissapointing in the communication department
battle arenas you'd have to find one that matches the rules you want or you can host one yourself.
I thought it would change but players cannot play a match alongside their amiibo without using a second Switch so it won't change much in online usage.
Unless you actually enjoyed 2-stock matches on FD all day everyday, I can’t understand having the position that Ultimate isn’t a good replacement for For Glory by default. And it beats For Fun by a country mile as well, since you have some say in the levels that are selected as well as whether or not items appear (plus you can have custom levels).
Either children that don’t know any better or trolls (especially if they pick lag-friendly characters like Ganondorf).
For Fun was just for fun, so no one cared much that you couldn't turn off items.