Why is luigi being considered better?

[mysticwolf]

Cuz luigi players (or at least the ones that I've seen) just spam Up-B until they kill someone. Then they do it some more.

 

[hippiedude92]

Cuz luigi players (or at least the ones that I've seen) just spam Up-B until they kill someone. Then they do it some more.

Hah, maybe that's because you can't avoid it? A smart luigi player doesn't fully rely on firepunch for kills. That I can assure you.

 

[Mario is the greatest brawler]

Hah, maybe that's because you can't avoid it? A smart luigi player doesn't fully rely on firepunch for kills. That I can assure you.

r u a smart luigi user?

 

[PrinceMarthX]

Mario has two big weaknesses when compared to Luigi

Mario's recovery is quite poor compared to Luigi's. Luigi's cyclone can allow him to recover from anything, provided you have a jump to spare. Mario cannot recover from anything. If he's sent too far south east or west then he's doomed.

Mario's attacks have significant less knock back than Luigi's. Unless you're good at gimping with the cape, FLUDD and his spike then you'd be better off with Luigi. Luigi can KO much easier through %

 

[Matador]

Mario has two big weaknesses when compared to Luigi

Mario's recovery is quite poor compared to Luigi's. Luigi's cyclone can allow him to recover from anything, provided you have a jump to spare. Mario cannot recover from anything. If he's sent too far south east or west then he's doomed.

Mario's attacks have significant less knock back than Luigi's. Unless you're good at gimping with the cape, FLUDD and his spike then you'd be better off with Luigi. Luigi can KO much easier through %

Mario's recovery is just as good as Marth's, except Mario's isn't at the mercy of edgehogging. He can recovery from nearly anything, the distance isn't really the issue and that's what people don't get. Mario's recovery is seen as "poor" or whatever other bull**** because it's predictable. It's not necessarily easy to gimp, or too short to recover, because anyone with half a brain can recover in this game with pretty much any character; mario included. Saying "Mario cannot recover from anything" screams to me that ur a scrub.

Mario's greatest strength is his edgeguarding in brawl. If you aren't good at it, you need a new character.

 

[Fatmanonice]

The recovery arguement is getting old... Luigi's recovery is easier to punish and easier to read no matter which of the three methods he chooses to use. Mario can protect himself while recovering with fireballs, can airstall with the cape, and it's among the easiest recoveries to stage spike someone with and still recover. Argueing that a character is worse based solely on recovery is a poor arguement. That's like saying Fox is better than Falco because both his Fire Fox and Fox Phantasm travel farther but is that anywhere near the truth?

 

[Greenstreet]

Mario's recovery is just as good as Marth's, except Mario's isn't at the mercy of edgehogging. He can recovery from nearly anything, the distance isn't really the issue and that's what people don't get. Mario's recovery is seen as "poor" or whatever other bull**** because it's predictable. It's not necessarily easy to gimp, or too short to recover, because anyone with half a brain can recover in this game with pretty much any character; mario included. Saying "Mario cannot recover from anything" screams to me that ur a scrub.

Mario's greatest strength is his edgeguarding in brawl. If you aren't good at it, you need a new character.

agreed.
the cape and fludd prove too much... and fireballs lol?
thats plenty. plus some decent aerials for a followup

 

[PrinceMarthX]

"Mario cannot recover from anything" screams to me that ur a scrub..

It simply means that if he's hit at the wrong angle, he won't be able to return. Luigi can recover from any angle if cyclone is used properly.

Only a fool would would say Mario's recovery is as good as Luigi's

 

[BoTastic!]

It simply means that if he's hit at the wrong angle, he won't be able to return. Luigi can recover from any angle if cyclone is used properly.

Only a fool would would say Mario's recovery is as good as Luigi's

everyone and their mama knows that. It just doesn't change the face that luigi is still easy to edge guard.

 

[hippiedude92]

Sadly there's more smarter Marios than there's Luigi's out there... and the fact how hes image is already shattered if he has any lol...

 

[Matador]

It simply means that if he's hit at the wrong angle, he won't be able to return. Luigi can recover from any angle if cyclone is used properly.

Only a fool would would say Mario's recovery is as good as Luigi's

That's fine and dandy but that doesn't happen often enough to make a difference. Even then, you're still in a horrible position to recover at that point anyway. At that angle, you're as good as dead either way you slice it.

 

[SilverBoomX]

Luigi has 2 recovery moves; Green Missle and Super Jump Punch. His Super Jump Punch may not cover as much distance as Mario's, but it's the perfect finishing move for any Luigi player. Also, the Green Missle covers a decent distance and can be used more than once if airborne. Sometimes, it adds an extra punch with an explosion that happens 1/8th of the time. But it can be reflected by Mario's cape, which may not be so well for recovering. His fireballs travel in a straight distance even in the air. So, therefore, as I see it, Luigi is a slightly better character than Mario.

 

[boss8]

y argue......combined as a mario and luigi main...you would be unstoppable O_O

 

[Judge Judy]

It simply means that if he's hit at the wrong angle, he won't be able to return. Luigi can recover from any angle if cyclone is used properly.

Only a fool would would say Mario's recovery is as good as Luigi's

As long as Mario has his double jump left he's fine...unless your hit like right under the course of something like way below the center of FD which only people like Pit and ROB can come back from. Mario's recovery is surpisingly long cause his Up B can sweetspot the ledge from like a mile away. Also, Mario can aim his Up B if you didn't know.

 

[Takeshi245]

Yeah, Luigi is a better character than Mario, but think about it. His recovery isn't exactly amazing. His Green Missile gets destroyed by FLUDD. I did it to Ichigo once (not his real name, but my best friend). It was sweet how short the distance it travelled. As for Up-B, you can capestall if Luigi wants to come up low and if he comes up high, he's done. FLUDD does well against his Tornado as well.

 

[PrinceMarthX]

Luigi has 2 recovery moves; Green Missle and Super Jump Punch. His Super Jump Punch may not cover as much distance as Mario's, but it's the perfect finishing move for any Luigi player. Also, the Green Missle covers a decent distance and can be used more than once if airborne. Sometimes, it adds an extra punch with an explosion that happens 1/8th of the time. But it can be reflected by Mario's cape, which may not be so well for recovering. His fireballs travel in a straight distance even in the air. So, therefore, as I see it, Luigi is a slightly better character than Mario.

Luigi has three, you forgot his cyclone.

 

[Judge Judy]

Luigi Cyclone is Luigi's ace-in-the-hole when it come to recovery. Very few characters can stop it but the rest of recovery is very predictable and Luigi can't protect himself from edgeguarders as well as Mario can. Mario's recovery is very predictable but he is difficult to edgeguard and most people are forced to edgehog to gimp his Up B.

Luigi's recovery length > Mario's

Luigi's recovery defense < Mario's

 

[PrinceMarthX]

Luigi

Almost all of his attacks have more knock back and some like his neutral air have significant more
Fireball makes for a better aerial approach since they defy gravity
More recovery options and can recover from any hit that doesn't KO him off the screen
Fire jump punch can kill most characters at 50-60%
Neutral air has vertical knock back
Cyclone makes knocking your opponent into the air much easier and can give Luigi incredible height
Can crawl which makes approaching certain projectile spammers easier
Down tilt has about a 1/3 chance of causing someone to trip, even if they have 0%
Is slightly taller, making him slightly more vulnreable but also giving his back air a little more reach
Down taunt is the strongest spike in the game if opponent is hit from below. If you somehow manage to hit someone with it while they're on the ledge, they die
Very floaty, making it easier to juggle him but making it easier for him to attack in the air
Poor traction which makes shield grabbing a lot less effective and spacing more difficult
Has poor running and air speed
Meteor smash is very difficult to use

Mario

Better at gimping because of his cape, meteor smash and FLUDD
Fireball makes for a better ground approach since they can be dropped in the opponnet's face from a short hop and have better range
Meteor smash is very easy to use
Is slightly heavier, surviving about 1% more damage
Running and air speed are much faster
Can wall jump which can come in handy and surprise your opponent
Can reflect projectiles and confuse his opponent with his cape
Cape and fireballs can protect Mario from edge guarders
Down smash strikes behind him quicker
Netural air has horiziontal knock back
Can sometimes be killed because he was unable to return to the stage
Forward air is slow

 

[hippiedude92]

Luigi

Almost all of his attacks have more knock back and some like his neutral air have significant more
Fireball makes for a better aerial approach since they defy gravity
More recovery options and can recover from any hit that doesn't KO him off the screen
Fire jump punch can kill most characters at 50-60%
Neutral air has vertical knock back
Cyclone makes knocking your opponent into the air much easier and can give Luigi incredible height
Can crawl which makes approaching certain projectile spammers easier
Down tilt has about a 1/3 chance of causing someone to trip, even if they have 0%
Is slightly taller, making him slightly more vulnreable but also giving his back air a little more reach
Down taunt is the strongest spike in the game if opponent is hit from below. If you somehow manage to hit someone with it while they're on the ledge, they die
Very floaty, making it easier to juggle him but making it easier for him to attack in the air
Poor traction which makes shield grabbing a lot less effective and spacing more difficult
Has poor running and air speed
Meteor smash is very difficult to use

Mario

Better at gimping because of his cape, meteor smash and FLUDD
Fireball makes for a better ground approach since they can be dropped in the opponnet's face from a short hop and have better range
Meteor smash is very easy to use
Is slightly heavier, surviving about 1% more damage
Running and air speed are much faster
Can wall jump which can come in handy and surprise your opponent
Can reflect projectiles and confuse his opponent with his cape
Cape and fireballs can protect Mario from edge guarders
Down smash strikes behind him quicker
Netural air has horiziontal knock back
Can sometimes be killed because he was unable to return to the stage
Forward air is slow

You did this because...? There's arguement that's being going on for 12 pages and yet you did this lulz.

 

[PrinceMarthX]

You did this because...? There's arguement that's being going on for 12 pages and yet you did this lulz.

I like having everything in one post.

 

[vato_break]

yes luigi is a better character than mario, but mario has no trouble beating luigi. If mario hits luigi off the stage it's pretty much over for him. Mario fireballs can ruin his second jump with fireballs,no second jump equals no tornado thing. cape or fludd from there and it's over.

 

[mario brawler]

I think they're fireballs usefullness is situational luigis fire ball travels straight (I don't really know what kinda diffrence that makes unless theres a gap bettween you and your opponent)
I prefer marios alot more tho they still travel infront of you and they travel farther plus if your on a slope and you opponent is below you, mario's fire balls can actually hit them,luigi clyclone is a good recovery but vato break proves a good point I dont think mario would have it that hard against luigi

 

[BoTastic!]

I think they're fireballs usefullness is situational luigis fire ball travels straight (I don't really know what kinda diffrence that makes unless theres a gap bettween you and your opponent)
I prefer marios alot more tho they still travel infront of you and they travel farther plus if your on a slope and you opponent is below you, mario's fire balls can actually hit them,luigi clyclone is a good recovery but vato break proves a good point I dont think mario would have it that hard against luigi

he doesn't.

 

[mario brawler]

he doesn't.

I would'nt say he does'nt it's still hard for me to see who has the advantage between the two the one stat mario is'nt strong in luigi is and vice verca

 

[BoTastic!]

I would'nt say he does'nt it's still hard for me to see who has the advantage between the two the one stat mario is'nt strong in luigi is and vice verca

luigi's better but he's not hard

 

[Matador]

Fighting a good Luigi is ridiculous. ALL of his attacks outprioritize/outrange you and do more dmg. Nair is broken and is the ultimate combo starter. He kills you at about 80% with an up-angled Fsmash even staled, and a jab -> upB at about 60%. His only problem is his approach, which isn't even an issue vs Mario because Nair outprioritizes pretty much everything in his arsenal. Sure, Mario can screw up his recovery pretty good, but if the Luigi has any experience in this matchup, he'll know to recover high; and this is more than possible with the tornado and a second jump at the ready.

Jab game works well because of how floaty he is, it takes longer for him to regain control after the jab. Shield grabbing anything besides his falling nair is difficult because his attacks have too much range, has a second (or third) aerial coming afterward, or his own attacks push him out of range because of his traction.

Luigi doesn't even have to work for anything in this matchup, there's nothing he really has to worry about. I know it's not his week yet, but 8:2 Luigi only for the reason that Mario can KO him with an unstaled Fsmash at around 100%. Usmash around 130%. Mario's fireball approach works pretty decent here too, but combos don't work cuz of that broken *** nair.

 

[hippiedude92]

Protip: Luigi's screwed if he gets shieldgrabbed when he does Nair. So hard to space without getting shieldgrabbed. Also Luigi has to rely on powershielding than shieldgrabbing because of his homo traction.

Besides why is Luigi much of a threat ( is he even a threat? LOL) to Mario boards anyways? Hes in totally last place of the character rankings x]

gg luigi

 

[Matador]

Protip: Luigi's screwed if he gets shieldgrabbed when he does Nair. So hard to space without getting shieldgrabbed. Also Luigi has to rely on powershielding than shieldgrabbing because of his homo traction.

Besides why is Luigi much of a threat ( is he even a threat? LOL) to Mario boards anyways? Hes in totally last place of the character rankings x]

gg luigi

That's exactly what I'm saying. Seriously, who gives a ****

 

[mario brawler]

so final words on luigi threat or no threat?at least on mario

 

[hippiedude92]

so final words on luigi threat or no threat?at least on mario

Another protip: Look at Luigi's character rankings. Is he in any condition to be a threat espically in tourneys? LOL. gg.

 

[PKNintendo]

Fanboyism. Matador is right. Luigi>Mario in terms of matchup with his sick aerials. But his tournie result is bad due to no one playing as him (2 month old results get deleted) check out all of the past entries. Luigi is above Mario. I like Mario as much as the next guy, but this Luigi hate is sad.

 

[boss8]

i mean IMO mario>luigi i mean i also use luigi so i dont mind them both luigi for snake...deedeedee....mario for metaknight/GaW....they are both ****.....so y argue.....combine your mario bro's......combine them both im sure your A game will rise dramatically...trust me.....y? cause i am amazing..... XD

 

[BoTastic!]

i mean IMO mario>luigi i mean i also use luigi so i dont mind them both luigi for snake...deedeedee....mario for metaknight/GaW....they are both ****.....so y argue.....combine your mario bro's......combine them both im sure your A game will rise dramatically...trust me.....y? cause i am amazing..... XD

haha true..

but this Luigi hate is sad.

hm? last time i checked Mario's getting the hate.

 

[SparkEd]

Mario + Luigi >>>>>> Mario or Luigi separately.

>=/

 

[Takeshi245]

Mario + Luigi >>>>>> Mario or Luigi separately.

>=/

He's got a good point there. Are we done here? I think that after 13 pages, we've covered enough.

 

[ChK]

wait a minute.. i just started using luigi but now it would make sense to use mario also??? righttttt

 

[hippiedude92]

i mean IMO mario>luigi i mean i also use luigi so i dont mind them both luigi for snake...deedeedee....mario for metaknight/GaW....they are both ****.....so y argue.....combine your mario bro's......combine them both im sure your A game will rise dramatically...trust me.....y? cause i am amazing..... XD

Lol I'm like one and only few that uses Mario bros as mains >.> They both ****. The mushroom kingdom *****. 13 pages we've discussed how argueable different they are but in the end they just **** lol.

To the poster above: Pick which one suits your fighting style best. Red or GReen? Floaty? or fastfaller?

 

[Oblique]

Me and my friend main Mario bros. so i have a some what good idea of why Luigi is better. the only advantage Mario has is cape and F.L.U.D.D, to a point that works but Luigi's recovery is too unpredictable (not the B forward). Plus Luigi has good and easy combos to land the B up. I hate to say it but Luigi is better but Mario can still win.

 

[vato_break]

mario can gimp luigi,fludd=no missle /fireball second jump=no cyclone
luigi can kill mario at 70%+ foward smash

today i played a super good luigi,i couldn't combo him
stupid nair
i think each character is better at what they do best
but i do think luigi is slightly better
=[

 

[mario brawler]

mario can gimp luigi,fludd=no missle /fireball second jump=no cyclone
luigi can kill mario at 70%+ foward smash

today i played a super good luigi,i couldn't combo him
stupid nair
i think each character is better at what they do best
but i do think luigi is slightly better
=[

yea just like an ike and mario (If my brain is'nt messing with me ike is a higher tier than mario)
even tho ike is a better character mario can still win because of how easy it is to gimp his recovery