Why don’t you guys have this?

[Tristan_win]

So…Meta knight is like one of the most popular characters in the game and by now I thought he would be well looked in to but when I came here just a few minutes ago to compare data I found that he has yet had a section made listening all of his frame data?

What the hell, Sheik gots one, Zamus gots one.

Where’s Meta Knights?

 

[Yuna]

Explanation: Meta-Knights are lazy?

 

[Tim_The_Enchanter]

And they're D.I.C.Kers. Of course I'm just referring to the new Dimensional Cape tech. ;]

 

[grandmaster192]

We don't need one... He's so good he wins on his own. Just know what you're doing with Metaknight, and that's all you need.

 

[Dojo]

Well... 95% of the MK boards are hardcore scrubs and whiners from other boards. *Ahem grandmaster*
And the 5% of MKs's that typically know what the **** is going on are lazy.

A character being good and popular in this game is just a magnet for scrubs who want easy wins...

 

[Tenki]

Necro Bump.

Yes. I bumped it.

After looking around, I think it would be in your best interest to get real/full frame data.

Yeah, everyone knows about MK's ridiculous startup times.

How about ending lag, move duration, IASA, dodge length, roll, airdodge/vulnerability, jump startup frames?
Grab frames, whiffed grab frames? etc

"baw bawwww mk atkz s0 fast!11 Q_Q" but yet, there's no frame data to back up people's claims about how lagless MK is, in ending lag and such.

 

[Vulcan]

A character being good and popular in this game is just a magnet for scrubs who want easy wins...

Well put sir.

 

[Tenki]

And he said it months ago, and it's still true lol.

But yeah, frame data.

 

[Affinity]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185726

 

[Tenki]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=185726

Yeah, everyone knows about MK's ridiculous startup times.

How about ending lag, move duration, IASA, dodge length, roll, airdodge/vulnerability, jump startup frames?
Grab frames, whiffed grab frames? etc

"baw bawwww mk atkz s0 fast!11 Q_Q" but yet, there's no frame data to back up people's claims about how lagless MK is, in ending lag and such.

;/

Of course I came across that thread. M2K only lists down startup times.


oh yeah, shield stun on his attacks would be nice too >:d

 

[Affinity]

;/

Of course I came across that thread. M2K only lists down startup times.


oh yeah, shield stun on his attacks would be nice too >:d

Good idea. I'll try and get on it this weekend.

 

[8AngeL8]

We don't need to know MK's frames because the answer is always "Less than whatever attack you're using, n00b."

 

[AndrewCarlson]

We don't need to know MK's frames because the answer is always "Less than whatever attack you're using, n00b."

Except for F-smash.

 

[Tenki]

We don't need to know MK's frames because the answer is always "Less than whatever attack you're using, n00b."

Hopefully for you, data will back this up.

Because I'm personally tired of this 'bandwagon' over9000 argument. Back when Snake was the assumed #1, people were like "haha u cant do nething about f-tilt! snake has broken range! lol hez gunna be bannd"

"wut? u say u can punish it? hez not d0ing it rite lol snaek iz invincibl loln00b"

 

[Joxer]

I posted the frame data on to the main MK thread yesterday asking for it to be added.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=123840&page=27

 

[Crizthakidd]

we really need to help improve scrub like metas. i need to work on priority. shutle loop vs most moves is needed as shuttle loop edguarding = loss of opp,'s stock

 

[8AngeL8]

Hopefully for you, data will back this up.

Because I'm personally tired of this 'bandwagon' over9000 argument. Back when Snake was the assumed #1, people were like "haha u cant do nething about f-tilt! snake has broken range! lol hez gunna be bannd"

"wut? u say u can punish it? hez not d0ing it rite lol snaek iz invincibl loln00b"

Are you seriously trying to say his attacks are as punishable as Snake's ftilt?

 

[Tenki]

Are you seriously trying to say his attacks are as punishable as Snake's ftilt?

Not at all.

I just think this 'baww mk godtier' has a bad taste reminiscent of the 'unbeatable Snake' period.

Seriously, if you'd try to bring up "hey I can gimp Snake-" and someone would say "BUT SNAKE CAN RECOVER HIGHER DAN U! SNAKE CAN AIRDODGE!!! SNAKE CAN C4!" The obstinacy of defeatists are annoying.

I don't believe MK is absolutely unpunishable. Hard to punish? Yes, but I'd rather be disproven through the data instead of some speculation or defeatist statements like your earlier post.

Every time I've asked for frame data (AND specified that I want ENDING LAG and duration frames), they'd link me to M2K's STARTUP LAG post.

your frames. show me tham.

 

[K 2]

We don't need to know MK's frames because the answer is always "Less than whatever attack you're using, n00b."

=)

That's why we use MK.